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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Ark said:
The difference is that Senna isn't with us anymore.

Amazing performances are always drowned out by the poor performances.
Artists are remembered for their magnum opus' not their final pieces of work and rightfully so. I personally think the same logic should apply to sports stars. Taking Michael as an example; he established a legacy in his first stint in F1, he was regarded as a phenomenon, he had an aura about him that set him apart from everyone else on the grid, but he's evidently not the same driver any more. Has age caught up with him? Has he lost the burning desire to be the best? Who knows. But he should be remembered for performances like Spain 1996, Spa 1995, Monaco 1997 and Japan 2000, not meandering about in the midfield with the likes of Petrov in 2011.
 

mclaren777

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RomanticHeroX said:
People hated Schumi because he was successful, just like people hating Vettel now and Alonso a couple years ago.
No, I hate Michael because he was/is a jerk. It has nothing to do with his success.
 

elfinke

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http://www.gizmag.com/fia-2014-formula-one-regulations/19322/

Most of this I'm sure everyone knows (and if there is a separate thread, I apologise).

I enjoyed the recent race, if only because the leader didn't disappear into the distance. And the brief moment between Webber and Hamilton was nut tightingly awesome. Also, and I know it has been mentioned in here many times, but it is interesting to see how meek Vettel is when he has people in front of him. And a hearty 'lol' at him blaming anything made of metal for 'not feeling the car' after the race.

Can't wait til the next round.
 

Shaneus

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It really does only require two drivers to qualify faster than Vettel to pretty much ensure he'll finish off the podium if last weekend is anything to go by. We have at least three that are more than capable of doing so, being Hamilton, Alonso and Webber.

Honestly, I think Germany has shown that perhaps this season really isn't over. Another few races where Vettel doesn't win, a DNF (which is entirely likely if he gets flustered mid-pack) and everything's a lot tighter. At least, I hope so.
 

Zinga

Banned
Vettel needs a few DNFs if this season is going to be redeemed.... honestly every race I keep on hoping his car crashes or his engine blows but he has had ridiculous luck this year, hopefully that's going to change soon because I am tired of seeing him on the podium.
 
Shaneus said:
It really does only require two drivers to qualify faster than Vettel to pretty much ensure he'll finish off the podium if last weekend is anything to go by. We have at least three that are more than capable of doing so, being Hamilton, Alonso and Webber.

Honestly, I think Germany has shown that perhaps this season really isn't over. Another few races where Vettel doesn't win, a DNF (which is entirely likely if he gets flustered mid-pack) and everything's a lot tighter. At least, I hope so.
No, it pretty much is over. Vettle only lost three points from his lead at the weekend, and the others are just going to continue taking points of each other.

It would take an injury that prevents Vettle from racing for the rest of the season to even give the others a chance.
 

Shaneus

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rogue_pigeon said:
It would take an injury that prevents Vettle from racing for the rest of the season to even give the others a chance.
Next RBR 1-2 start, Webber runs into Vettel.

"Who's number 2 now, motherfuckers?"
 

John_B

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RomanticHeroX said:
People hated Schumi because he was successful, just like people hating Vettel now and Alonso a couple years ago.
Nobody wants to see a Formula 1 season dominated by one man. It takes all the excitement out of watching the sport.

Last season was excellent. The championship changed hands multiple times and the later races were very intense. When you don't have that fight for the championship it's about as exciting as friendly football games or free poker.
 

Dead Man

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Omiee said:
Apparently no one got it, what a reaction.

Anyhow i like webber as well, clear example of someone that worked his way up to the top. Will be a nice fight between him and vettel this weekend.
Sorry if I misinterpreted, my internet humour detector has been dodgy lately.
 

Aegus

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However, the best Nordschleife story of the weekend came from Kamui Kobayashi, who always makes the trek out onto the track whenever he is racing there.

This time, however, for a special treat for his girlfriend Yu he wanted to give her a high-speed lap of the Nordschleife – and it was going to be the first time she had ever been a passenger alongside him out on a race circuit. Kamui duly paid for four laps – but it didn't go quite to plan.

"We got out on to the track and after one corner she started crying," said Kobayashi. "I had to slow down and finish the lap very slow – about 60km/h. Very safe – but it was a very long lap. It took me nearly 20 minutes.

"I think I will have to sell my tickets at a discount price now. I paid 89 Euros for four laps – and only went around once!"

Somethingsomethingweirdjapaneseporncryingwomensomething.
 

Adamm

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Aegus said:
Somethingsomethingweirdjapaneseporncryingwomensomething.
Haha thats halarious!

Where did you read that?

9490.jpg
 

Adamm

Member
Psychotext said:
Ok... either his head is massive, or hers is tiny.

Edit - Hey, where did the image go Adamm?
It looked huge on my work computer, so i got worried & removed it

Ill put it back :p
 

NHale

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Shaneus said:
It really does only require two drivers to qualify faster than Vettel to pretty much ensure he'll finish off the podium if last weekend is anything to go by. We have at least three that are more than capable of doing so, being Hamilton, Alonso and Webber.

Honestly, I think Germany has shown that perhaps this season really isn't over. Another few races where Vettel doesn't win, a DNF (which is entirely likely if he gets flustered mid-pack) and everything's a lot tighter. At least, I hope so.

He's not going to lose the championship if he keeps finishing 4th. Last race he finished 4th and still his lead was only cut by 3pts, so I don't see how it suddenly brought life to the championship.

The only way to revive Webber, Hamilton or Alonso chances is a couple of DNFs, and since Red Bull has 0 DNFs so far, the only way this season is revived is if Vettel starts making stupid errors.

His lead is so big that even if Webber wins every race and Vettel finishes 4th, it would still take 6 races to overtake him in the championship.
 

mclaren777

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DrM said:
Question - what kind of cooperation will Virgin have with Mclaren? Force India like?
Yes, Mclaren's new deal with Virgin will be similar to the one with Force India.


Bungieware said:
Nick Heidfeld has glorious hair
I think the same thing every time I see it.


Bungieware said:
I can't remember now--did he push it all the way back to the pits?


SunhiLegend said:
Any chance you can make a similar GIF of Lewis passing Alonso in that same corner?
 

mclem

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Zinga said:
Vettel needs a few DNFs if this season is going to be redeemed.... honestly every race I keep on hoping his car crashes or his engine blows but he has had ridiculous luck this year, hopefully that's going to change soon because I am tired of seeing him on the podium.
When was the last time we had a full-on, billowing smoke engine blow-out? I think it's been a few years.
 

Loonz

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Ark said:
Textbook.

Also, I can't stand Hamilton on twitter. Fucking gangsta speeeeeekz.

Alonso's car tires were still cold, as he had just got out from boxes. Given that those Mclarens are the cars that heat them faster, I would say the outcome of Hamilton's attempt was predictable. I mean, Ham's clearly a gifted driver, as Alonso is, but in that action Alonso had little chance because of the low temperature of the tires.
 

moojito

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Loonz said:
Alonso's car tires were still cold, as he had just got out from boxes. Given that those Mclarens are the cars that heat them faster, I would say the outcome of Hamilton's attempt was predictable. I mean, Ham's clearly a gifted driver, as Alonso is, but in that action Alonso had little chance because of the low temperature of the tires.

So why didn't he attempt to defend the line, like Hamilton did with Webber? Sounds like you're reaching a bit here. He got caught napping, I think that's all there is to it.
 
moojito said:
So why didn't he attempt to defend the line, like Hamilton did with Webber? Sounds like you're reaching a bit here. He got caught napping, I think that's all there is to it.
Alonso has already explained it, he didn't have any heat in the tyres and he couldn't go anywhere near as fast around that corner as Hamilton could at that point. If he'd have tried to defend the line they'd have likely crashed as he had no idea what the grip levels were.

As for Hamilton / Webber, neither was on fresh tires and both knew exactly what their cars were capable of.
 
mclaren777 said:
I'm not so sure about that claim.

There were two incidents between Hamilton and Webber, the first was in the first stint where Webber overtook after Hamilton made a mistake, but then was reovertaken at the next corner. That was not with new tyres. The second one was Hamilton coming out of the pits and Webber trying to overtake and Hamilton blocked him, Webber was on new tires then as well so it was easier to block I expect.
 
zomgbbqftw said:
There were two incidents between Hamilton and Webber, the first was in the first stint where Webber overtook after Hamilton made a mistake, but then was reovertaken at the next corner. That was not with new tyres.
Yeah, my mistake. I was thinking of the pass and then pass back.
 
McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh does not believe Sebastian Vettel is starting to crack under pressure.

Reigning champion Vettel holds a 77-point cushion over Red Bull team-mate Mark Webber in the standings after a dream start to the season.

But the 24-year-old was only fourth after a spin in Germany to miss the podium for the first time in 12 races.

Whitmarsh said: "We can't bring about his failure, all we can do is put pressure on him."

McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton took victory at the Nurburgring last weekend but is still 82 points behind Vettel in third as he tries to regain the title he won in 2008.

Vettel also made a mistake in Canada last month, running wide on the final lap to hand victory to Hamilton's team-mate Jenson Button, but Whitmarsh does not see the German struggling for the rest of the season.

He said: "People may characterise it as cracking under pressure but in fairness I don't think that was the case. He simply made a couple of mistakes.

"He has done a pretty good job so far this year, so I don't think he is cracking. We just have to concentrate on our own act, improve our performance, reliability, everything we do.

"If that turns out to be good enough to win races then that will be great."
Pretty interesting. I want to see Vettel's gap start to close, but I don't think he's going to throw the championship away, either.

It would be stunning if he did. Not sure he could ever come back from it.
 
I can't help thinking about when Button nearly threw his championship away in the middle of the 2009 season... but I really doubt Vettel is going to do anything like that.

There are certainly similarities though.
 

Xun

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Hamilton is such a dickhead.

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Seriously I don't get why a lot of you guys dislike the guy, he's what racing needs. He can be "ruthless" but that's what's fun about his driving.
 
Xun said:
Hamilton is such a dickhead.

Seriously I don't get why a lot of you guys dislike the guy, he's what racing needs. He can be "ruthless" but that's what's fun about his driving.

Because he's a young cocky black male..and successful..and banging Nicole
 
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