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[brotkasten]

Rumours on twitter says there will be no adverts during the race

Sky has the rights in other European countries and there are no ads during the race, only before and after.

 

[DrM]

Track is very green and quite dirty.

Temps will not rise above 25 degrees, there is chance that Sunday will be the coldest day this weekend. As i said, weather is very strange this year.

 

[brotkasten]

Track is very green and quite dirty.

Temps will not rise above 25 degrees, there is chance that Sunday will be the coldest day this weekend. As i said, weather is very strange this year.

Isn't low temp bad for Ferrari?

 

[Gareth Bale]

The "cost of the TV production team" argument isn't really valid. Heck if it was just the live pictures on BBC alongside the 5Live commentary I would be quite content.

Ah, the old Legard workaround.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

What a load of shit.

I torrent the races because I don't have BBC HD, so not having SKY isn't an issue, but a big part of enjoying F1 is Jake + co, Martin and DC on commentary, a complete lack of adverts etc.

I honestly don't know if I will stick with the sport. The thought of adverts alone is enough to ruin races, let alone the fact their coverage will probably be shit compared to the BBC.

Edit: No ads is one thing, I guess. :\

 

[DrM]

Mclaren still not using DRS in FP1

Webber kissed the barriers

 

[Gareth Bale]

 

[Adamm]

Sky have been confirming all over their news article that there will be no adverts.

Hmm, I must have missed that.

 

[Shaneus]

Mclaren still not using DRS in FP1

Webber kissed the barriers

Lucky barriers.

 

[DrM]

Renault sounds like extreme case of diarrhea in corners

 

[mrklaw]

I already have Sky Sports but was considering cancelling. If they don't include Brundle (who has done an amazing job moving to main commentator) and Coulthard then I'm cancelling my entire sky subscription out of the principle of how stupid 'half the races live' is.

yes out of spite but i'll manage perfectly well on freesat with a decent PVR. Or use it as an opportunity to go to virgin with Tivo

 

[mrklaw]

So for anyone who hasnt done the maths
For anyone who doesnt currenly pay for Sky

12 months at £39.75 per month plus a HD costs an extra £10.25 per month

So if you want to watch every race live in HD next year it will be £600

or considering half the races will be on the BBC, thats £600 for 10 races. £60 per race pay per view. Makes boxing look cheap

 

[abunai]

uuuuugh, why sky?! day ruined

Spoiler

i have one invite to TheBox if anyone wants it after this news - ratio free f1 in sd/hd, pm me! --- and it's gone, sorry guys :~)

 

[mxgt]

This sucks.

I don't pay for Sky as I don't think it's worth it.

 

[Orgun]

Sky!? Fuck! Fuckityfuckfuckfuckadoodlefuvk

Anyone able to PM me a good motorsports torrenta site

 

[Jezbollah]

FYI - from the other media forums I've been reading it's the BBC that has been the primary motivator to cut down on their coverage - the non F1ers got antsy when they saw how much BBC were spending on the coverage - so Bernie had to put the rest of the races on somewhere.. Couldnt exactly do ITV could they?

 

[itsgreen]

FYI - from the other media forums I've been reading it's the BBC that has been the primary motivator to cut down on their coverage - the non F1ers got antsy when they saw how much BBC were spending on the coverage - so Bernie had to put the rest of the races on somewhere.. Couldnt exactly do ITV could they?

Yeah thats what I think...

Still crappy though

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Reading the BBC Twitter feed and whatnot is pretty interesting.

I love Bernie's quote that people get the best of both worlds. Because giving the majority of your audience (BBC) just highlights of half the races is going to do wonders for your sport!

My worry is Sky will happen to broadcast all of the best races and they won't cover it half as good as they should. It's also hard to imagine the BBC production being quite as amazing when they only have half the races - I'm sure it will be scaled back in some way.

If ever there's a way to get out on the wrong side of bed this is it. What horrid news.

Sky!? Fuck! Fuckityfuckfuckfuckadoodlefuvk

Anyone able to PM me a good motorsports torrenta site

I use TheBox.bz

HD races uploaded within 1 - 2 hours, if you want F1 only.

 

[mrklaw]

How about no? How about we keep it as it is? The resurgence of viewing figures in F1 has been thanks TOTALLY to the BBC with their award winning coverage. They are raking in millions of viewers now for every race.

not just award winning. The BBC have also said it brings in huge audiences of young males, which are traditionally a difficult audience for the BBC to attract.

So under their mandate to inform, entertain and educate, they need to make sure they have a broad coverage for all of their audience.

IMO dropping F1 severely weakens their coverage for a large segment of the population

 

[mclem]

Can Sky have all the races that are in the middle of the night for us, please? That should give enough time to splice their images into the proper commentary for viewing at a sane time with good coverage.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Hamilton racing the TR is pretty funny, heh.

 

[DrM]

There will be loads of marbels on track

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

not just award winning. The BBC have also said it brings in huge audiences of young males, which are traditionally a difficult audience for the BBC to attract.

So under their mandate to inform, entertain and educate, they need to make sure they have a broad coverage for all of their audience.

IMO dropping F1 severely weakens their coverage for a large segment of the population

I absolutely agree, but the cost is very high and the BBC is largely criticised these days (wrongly) for how much they spend.

I find it very hard to believe that the money they'll save here will go on enough programs that fit the PSB remit to justify scrapping half of F1. Like you said, it's been very popular and brought lots of fans back (including me) or to the sport for the first time. It's not like they have a massive void in their coverage because of F1. They're always striving to streamline and reach as many people as possible, of course, which is needed, but had people not been so harsh about the BBC on the amount they spend F1 would've been safe and the contract renewed, I bet.

Basically, people need to shut the fuck up and stop complaining about the BBC, because they do an amazing job doing what they need to do and when they make cuts like this it's their viewers that lose out. They can cut salaries or lower employee numbers, I don't care about that, but the reason the BBC is the best broadcaster in the world is because they do such varied programming and is the best in most of their fields - especially F1!

 

[Opus Angelorum]

BBC Director of Sport : barbara.slater@bbc.co.uk

BREAKING NEWS: BBC/Sky to share coverage of Eastenders - Sky will show midweek episodes and BBC to show Sunday omnibus.

 

[itsgreen]

P Driver Team Time Laps Note
1 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:23.350 19 Season Best
2 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:23.564 24
3 F. Alonso Ferrari 1:23.642 29
4 M. Webber Red Bull 1:23.666 12
5 J. Button McLaren 1:23.772 20
6 F. Massa Ferrari 1:24.115 25
7 N. Rosberg Mercedes GP 1:24.250 22
8 M. Schumacher Mercedes GP 1:24.369 20
9 S. Perez Sauber 1:24.620 24
10 V. Petrov Renault 1:25.093 22
11 K. Kobayashi Sauber 1:25.113 21
12 P. Resta Force India 1:25.336 22
13 N. Hulkenberg Force India 1:25.357 17
14 R. Barrichello Williams 1:25.836 24
15 B. Senna Renault 1:25.855 25 Season Worst
16 S. Buemi STR 1:25.890 28 Season Worst
17 J. Alguersuari STR 1:26.099 36
18 P. Maldonado Williams 1:26.124 25 Season Worst¹
19 H. Kovalainen Lotus 1:26.878 26 Season Worst¹
20 J. Trulli Lotus 1:27.352 21
21 T. Glock Virgin 1:28.533 30
22 J. d'Ambrosio Virgin 1:28.903 22
23 V. Liuzzi HRT 1:29.059 24
24 D. Ricciardo HRT 1:29.904* 26 Season Worst¹
107% time is 1:29.185, ¹ matches previously best/worst result

http://formula1news.com/article/833/Results-Practice-1-Hamilton-starts-weekend-on-top/

 

[snoopen]

I'm impressed with Ricciardo, not that far off the more experienced Liuzzi at all.

 

[D4Danger]

fuck you, Sky.

I guess they weren't happy just ruining football for everyone.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

BBC Director of Sport : barbara.slater@bbc.co.uk

Haha, would be hilarious though!

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Is that email the real place we should be contacting about this? Not that it will do much, but still, the BBC is influenced by the public so I want my voice heard.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Is that email the real place we should be contacting about this?

Yes.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Email incoming then!

 

[Ark]

Look on the bright side, the thread title possibilities for the 2012 threads are endless!

Will send the beeb an e-mail when I get back from the shops.

 

[Psychotext]

Fucks sake, what a shit thing to wake up to. Thanks Bernie.

 

[D4Danger]

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone told BBC Sport: "It's super for F1. It will mean a lot more coverage for the sport.

how does it get MORE coverage if you move it from BBC to Sky? derp

 

[Goldrusher]

McLaren is not impressed:

McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh said that he would seek more information from Ecclestone, especially because he felt it important F1 was not taken off free-to-air.

"As I understand BBC are covering half the grands prix, and Sky are doing every practice session and everything else. It's interesting," he told AUTOSPORT. "I don't think anyone should be immediately reacting to say this is good, bad, or indifferent.

"What we need to understand is whether the large audience we currently enjoy in Formula 1 will be maintained. I think we also need to understand exactly how this is being done."

Whitmarsh said moves to take F1 off free-to-air could be viewed as a breach of the Concorde Agreement, with him claiming that there were clauses in the deal that ties the teams, Ecclestone and the FIA together that guarantees the sport's broadcast platform.

Williams - these days nothing but a business - loves it:

"I think it is a balance and, without knowing the details, you cannot comment on whether it is good or bad. What I do know is that Bernie is a very passionate believer in getting the broadest audience possible and I think he has almost certainly done this in order to do that. "

When asked what his message would be to disappointed fans, Parr said: "I am sympathetic to them. I understand it is difficult - but English Premier League fans have had that for a while haven't they?

"The one thing I would say, which I have said before, I know that whether you are coming to a race or are watching the sport at home and have to do that on pay TV which seems expensive, people have to bear in mind what it costs to put on this show. It is part of the character of F1.

"For us to design and build the two cars that we will have on the grid on Sunday here, without putting an engine in them, without putting a driver in them, without accounting for the 70 staff that we bring to each race – without all of that those cars cost £2 million. You multiply that by all the cars on the grid and that is £24 million minimum of the costs just to make the parts. That is part of the show.

"It is not a bloke or two blokes with a tennis racket and a pair of plimsolls with zero cost. It is a very, very expensive sport. The best thing we can do for fans, whether they want to come to the races or want to watch it on TV, is to reduce the cost of the sport without spoiling the show."

Fuck you Parr.

Maybe you should inform us about the 1 billion dollar profit the sport makes every year, while every single circuit is losing money, fans are paying through the nose and half the teams are struggling to stay in the sport.
The teams however are also to blame. Why pay even the most average driver a $10 million a year salary ?



Brundle only found out last night:

BBC commentator and former F1 driver Martin Brundle said on Twitter that he was "not impressed" with the deal.

"BBC/Sky/F1 2012+. Found out last night, no idea how it will work yet I'm out of contract, will calmly work through options. Not impressed," he wrote.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93455

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

E-mail sent. That's about as much as you can do, really.

Oh well. I guess I can just make the most of the second half of this season now and enjoy it when it lasts. Really sucks this is happening two years after I get back into F1 in a big way.

 

[DrM]

how does it get MORE coverage if you move it from BBC to Sky? derp

Bernie will get shitloads of €€€€€€€, no wonder he is happy.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Petition

Just needs a name, nothing else.

 

[marvelharvey]

Apart from FUCK FUCK FUCK and FUCK, I'm at a lose for words.

FUCK

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

jakehumphreyf1 Jake Humphrey
The important thing is - BBC are still transmitting F1, every race will be accessible in the UK.

Yeah, if you like watching F1 races summarised with none of the tension and excitemet!

Jake was on the Chris Moyles Show this morning. I haven't listened yet, but he's on around the 2hr 17 mark. Wonder what he says - going to listen now.

 

[SunhiLegend]

Oh My God. WTF I'm confused. BBC will show half the races live with the usual stuff, Brundle Jake etc. And Sky will broadcast the other races with there own system, commentators presenters etc. Fucking Bullshit. I hope they can keep Jake and co for both broadcasts but I'm guessing SKY would want their own presenters doing thier broadcasts. FUCK

 

[Juicy Bob]

Sorry to be 'that guy' but if you're on Twitter, we're all trying to get #F1FansDontWantSky trending to make a point.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Yeah, if you like watching F1 races summarised with none of the tension and excitemet!

Jake was on the Chris Moyles Show this morning. I haven't listened yet, but he's on around the 2hr 17 mark. Wonder what he says - going to listen now.

He seemed quite resigned and downbeat, it almost sounded like a goodbye.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

He seemed quite resigned and downbeat, it almost sounded like a goodbye.

I was about to post the same thing. He's trying to spin it as a not bad thing for the sport, but you can tell he's gutted.

For a fun breakfast show, Moyles did a good job of expressing why the BBC is so good with the F1.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

The races that are shown on both Sky and the BBC, I hope and pray that the viewing numbers are massively skewed towards the BBC.

I can't wait to hear Eddie, he will not be happy.

 

[Deadman]

Breakaway series in 2013, put it on the bbc, everyone wins. Except bernie and sky

 

[mclem]

uuuuugh, why sky?! day ruined

Spoiler

i have one invite to TheBox if anyone wants it after this news - ratio free f1 in sd/hd, pm me! --- and it's gone, sorry guys :~)

Spoiler

I probably shouldn't go there while I'm at work, but I *think* I have a couple. I'll try to throw some offers out later. No promises I actually have any, though!

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

The races that are shown on both Sky and the BBC, I hope and pray that the viewing numbers are massively skewed towards the BBC.

I can't wait to hear Eddie, he will not be happy.

Brundle will be the most vocal on the weekend, I think. I hope, anyway!

 

[Adamm]

The races that are shown on both Sky and the BBC, I hope and pray that the viewing numbers are massively skewed towards the BBC.

I can't wait to hear Eddie, he will not be happy.

Of course they will be.

I also wouldnt be surprised the highlight show gets more viewers than the live one on sky

 

[D4Danger]

The races that are shown on both Sky and the BBC, I hope and pray that the viewing numbers are massively skewed towards the BBC.

I can't wait to hear Eddie, he will not be happy.

no, no. It will mean MORE coverage remember

people will be using picture in picture to watch both shows at the same time. in 3D.

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