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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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olore

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Since the mid eighties, remember watching Senna in his McLaren. Had a poster of Lauda in his Ferrari on the wall
 

Omiee

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Ark said:
What I would give to work & live in central London T__T


Im going to London around 15 October and need some advice =(


Ill just post it here as well.

So me and a friend will go to London for a weekend in October and i need some advice.
We'd like to jam as much as we can in there in the short time that we are going.

First i'd like to know some good places to eat. And are there any cheap but good hotels?
We also plan to go to Chelsea against everton and i was wondering what the cheapest and easiest way is to get tickets. Since i dont think we can let them ship it to us here in Holland.

Also is there 1 area where there are a lot of clubs or is it scattered around more? We'd like to go to a nice club with some good music.

And overall some suggestions to do, i think Friday will be a shopping day for stores, Saturday match day and in the evening some clubing, and Sunday would be our free day to do some sight seeing.


Thanks in advance
 

Ark

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Omiee said:
Im going to London around 15 October and need some advice =(

Where abouts are you staying?

If you go anywhere near the tube & the Oxford street area you're going to be swamped by people, especially during the weekend.

Part of the true London experience is getting on the tube during commuting time.
 

Omiee

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Ark said:
Where abouts are you staying?

If you go anywhere near the tube & the Oxford street area you're going to be swamped by people, especially during the weekend.

Part of the true London experience is getting on the tube during commuting time.

I think we dont have a choice since we will have to use it to get to Stamford bridge
 

dubc35

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I watched the race edit this morning. I also thought it was great as some I have watched have been meh. Bring on Monza!
 

AcridMeat

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Watched the race finally today. Was exciting for the first half, less so after Hamilton's calamities.

Not to say I wasn't interested with him out of it, just seemed that it was Button and Schumacher doing anything. I think part of it was that the commentating felt a bit, I don't know, bored? For some reason the tone in Brundle's voice made him sound like he was reading the traffic report at times. Felt good to watch a race again though.
 

Jinjo

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Woah, it seems like Newey was really tense about the tire situation. He was crying when the race finished.

Awesome, awesome race edit.
 

kitch9

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Omiee said:
Im going to London around 15 October and need some advice =(


Ill just post it here as well.

Go to the ground with your fingers crossed I'd say. That match is a fairly marque game so it will (Or already has.) sell out guaranteed.

It takes dedication, a decent amount of form filling or a fat wallet to get tickets for these types of games.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Dead Man said:
I find myself not caring since they butchered it. It used to be a wonderfully fast track, with a great technical back section. Now it is just a series of chicanes.
True. They changed almost every fast corner into a chicane after that weekend in '94....

Also, only useful DRS zone would be after Variante Alta down to Rivazza... or maybe on start-finish line down into first corner-chicane combo.
 

Omiee

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Dead Man said:
I find myself not caring since they butchered it. It used to be a wonderfully fast track, with a great technical back section. Now it is just a series of chicanes.


What did they change?

nvm thats why i missed it, the changed was made after 94
 

Juicy Bob

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Imola was a great track, but it's far too narrow and full of chicanes to be good for F1 racing. Everyone talks about the finishes of 2005 and 2006 but the only reason they were so exciting was because Schumacher didn't really have an opportunity to pass Alonso and then vice-versa.
 

Dilly

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Thing is, when old circuits like those return it's almost a certainty it's just going to replace the other classics instead of the shit new ones.
 

dubc35

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Dilly said:
Thing is, when old circuits like those return it's almost a certainty it's just going to replace the other classics instead of the shit new ones.
Which is sad. I, and probably most in this thread, wish more classic tracks came back. I guess it took time for the classics to become classics but I don't see many of the new ones getting there.

And catching up from the last couple pages: I started watching F1 a bit in the '06 time frame. I never watched full time until about 2009. I know of a site that you can get old seasons of F1, perhaps the same one Omiee mentioned. I'm not sure of the legality either, PM me if interested.
 
Not to derail the thread, but it always baffled me why Mercedes or Ferrari never made a V10 (petrol) road car given their respective history in F1.

For whatever reason, the two companies are content with a V8 or V12 configuration in their performance vehicles :/

I would've loved hearing a 9k rpm V10 in the 458 Italia with that distinct Ferrari sound. Oh well.
 

Leunam

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F1-GAF, I humbly request your resourcefulness.

I'm working on a 1/20 McLaren MP4/5B but I am sorely lacking in reference pictures. Does anyone here have decent shots of the engine and cockpit? My google-fu is not quite up to par.
 

Kyaw

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Leunam said:
F1-GAF, I humbly request your resourcefulness.

I'm working on a 1/20 McLaren MP4/5B but I am sorely lacking in reference pictures. Does anyone here have decent shots of the engine and cockpit? My google-fu is not quite up to par.

I'm sorry that i can't help you on this but you need to post pictures as soon as it is done.
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Leunam said:
F1-GAF, I humbly request your resourcefulness.

I'm working on a 1/20 McLaren MP4/5B but I am sorely lacking in reference pictures. Does anyone here have decent shots of the engine and cockpit? My google-fu is not quite up to par.
I've got a few of the engine, I'll PM them to you in a few hours.
 

DrM

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Which teams will use this year's car for base for their 2012 car? I think that RBR and Mclaren are two teams, Ferrari will have more 'radical' car, dunno about Mercedes, but probably same situation...
 
DrM said:
Which teams will use this year's car for base for their 2012 car? I think that RBR and Mclaren are two teams, Ferrari will have more 'radical' car, dunno about Mercedes, but probably same situation...
It's a really hard thing to quantify, but I expect the blown diffuser ban is going to make a continuation of the base design rather difficult for at least a few teams.
 

Omiee

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rogue_pigeon said:
It's a really hard thing to quantify, but I expect the blown diffuser ban is going to make a continuation of the base design rather difficult for at least a few teams.

I think thats an enigine problem, renault will have to work with and rbr as well but not as much a design of the car.

Man am i hyped for italy. Surely vettel cant qualify as bad as last year.

Also question, if we had the same points back in 09 as we have now, would jenson still have been champion?
 

Ark

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DrM said:
Which teams will use this year's car for base for their 2012 car? I think that RBR and Mclaren are two teams, Ferrari will have more 'radical' car, dunno about Mercedes, but probably same situation...

Ferrari will probably use it as a base, compared to last year their car is a tank in terms of reliability.

McLaren is a funny situation. Their car this year is good, but a large chunk of the performance comes from the blown exhaust, as we saw in Silverstone.
 

S. L.

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i think most cars will be evolutions of the current cars. aside from the blown diffusor there isn't much different.
maybe the virgin will be completely new since they dropped that Writh crap
 

Edmond Dantès

Dantès the White
Ark said:
Ferrari will probably use it as a base, compared to last year their car is a tank in terms of reliability.

McLaren is a funny situation. Their car this year is good, but a large chunk of the performance comes from the blown exhaust, as we saw in Silverstone.
I don't think we'll be seeing the unconventional sidepods from McLaren next season. It may well be a revolution again, rather than an evolution and therein lies the problem. It could go either way for McLaren if they come up with something that's doesn't fit in with the status quo of design philosophy currently established in F1. It's their last chance with this current set of regulations to get it right, so far they're done a moderately good job (the MP4/24 wasn't half bad by seasons end). They need to be competitive at the beginning of the season and not be playing catch-up when the European leg gets underway as has been the case for the past few seasons.
 

Ark

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Sleeplessnights said:
Speaking of cars, the 2011 cars look a lot "cleaner" compared to 2008 cars.

The 2009 regs created a whole new era of F1 cars. A lot of the downforce is somewhat 'invisible' compared to the 2000's.

I miss those cars. Winglets everywhere, lower, wider rear wing, a front-wing that wasn't wider than the car itself, the list goes on.

The only bad thing with those cars were the grooved tyres, but I actually liked the aesthetic they produced.

hami_mcl_jerez_08pre_daim.jpg


I mean cmon, look at that thing. It looks like a fucking spaceship. Small, compact, nimble.
 

Mobius 1

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Since we are talking about the shape of the cars, I much enjoyed the early 90's models. I just loved the straightforward, flowing rounded lines they had.

Don't be surprised this is my favorite of them all:
mclaren-mp4-8-big.jpg



Also, I'd like to see Imola back. The butchering of the track was an overreaction (who could be blamed) to that tragic weekend in '94, but the course had far more positive aspects to it than negatives.
 
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