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[Omiee]

The reason I am not enjoying this thread is because beforehand it was FUN - and we all loved the motor racing.

Now we just got fanboys ruining it, with plenty of moaning. Simple as.

Anyway, Hamilton is blatantly wanting to vent. Bless him.

Why cant anything be done about it?


Anyhow was the red bull 2.9 pit stop the fastest this year?

 

[kharma45]

It's actually much more comparable to what he did to Petrov at Montreal last year. Or maybe it was Melboune this year. The races are all a jumble at this point.

The double move was just great racing and I hope that sets a precedent for the rest of the season.

It was Montreal last year iirc, it was aggressive but wasn't going to put the driver in any danger. What he did to Barrichello though was beyond the pale.

Anyhow was the red bull 2.9 pit stop the fastest this year?

Robotically quick, Vettel couldn't ask for a better team at the minute.

 

[Tworak]

Why cant anything be done about it?

set up a 'only hamilton fans allowed' sign in the first post might do the trick

 

[Lucius86]

Ironic coming from the biggest Webber fanboy in the thread tbh.

You should've seen the stream of texts I got from Lucius when Webber crashed out. Poorly typed because of the tears in his eyes.

I still got a hard on from Button. And by loving God, at least I'm not shitting on everyone else.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

This is so unlike hamilton, im curious to know if its his decisions or the team's. He has changed a lot, not only his interviews but his racing as well.

He seems to have reigned himself in slightly, but this more docile Lewis is in conflict with his native driving style and he seems to be making more mistakes because of this.

 

[Gareth Bale]

And, what he want? Hamilton has done the same things this year and never got a penalty. He should just say it's racing...

Did you see the posts above you? You may not respect every driver but how about little respect to those guys

 

[Igo]

And, what he want? Hamilton has done the same things this year and never got a penalty. He should just say it's racing...

I'm pretty sure he has both be warned and penalized for it this year actually.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

I still got a hard on from Button. And by loving God, at least I'm not shitting on everyone else.

Whatever mate, you can't fit enough racist slurs into your texts about Hamilton!

 

[kharma45]

Di Resta is someone I'd like to get a go in a top car, really nice guy and for his first season in the sport he's done immeasurably well.

Would like to see Senna progress too, nice guy and seems to have a good amount of talent.

 

[Omiee]

He seems to have reigned himself in slightly, but this more docile Lewis is in conflict with his native driving style and he seems to be making more mistakes because of this.

You know i have to agree with you there, i think its his attitude and fighting attitude that made him great. Its like he's a dog on a leash now. He lost a lot of time behind shumi.

 

[PdotMichael]

I just meant that it wouldn't be a "OH LEWIS YOU COMPLAINER YOU" situation. If he said Michael made a few too many moves then it's hard to argue with - especially when Charlie and Ross both warned Michael about it. He clearly wanted to say more than he did.

the moves from Schumacher was never under investigation.

I want more stuff like this, because that it is racing and it was not impossible to overtake Schumacher (see Button)

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

the moves from Schumacher was never under investigation.

I know. I never said they were? But the fact that Charlie got Ross on the radio clearly says it was borderline at the very best.

Edit: Love watching this first corner crash. It's like what we had in F1 2010 (and will have in F1 2011).

 

[Saiyar]

112 points, god that is a lot.

He can now win the Chamionship with 6th place finishes.

To win in Singapore he needs to finish:
13pts ahead of Alonso, 8pts ahead of Button & Webber and simply ahead of Hamilton.

 

[PdotMichael]

I know. I never said they were? But the fact that Charlie got Ross on the radio clearly says it was borderline at the very best.

Because it was on limit, yeah. But it was never too much

 

[Osiris]

Di Resta is someone I'd like to get a go in a top car, really nice guy and for his first season in the sport he's done immeasurably well.

Would like to see Senna progress too, nice guy and seems to have a good amount of talent.

I'll look forward to seeing both of these in a more competitive car, but not for a while yet, I think it's important that both earn the remaval of their rookie stripes in mid and rear field teams for a couple of years so that they improve their racecraft at a natural and organic rate.

 

[Ark]

set up a 'only hamilton fans allowed' sign in the first post might do the trick

Even after the race, it continues.

He seems to have reigned himself in slightly, but this more docile Lewis is in conflict with his native driving style and he seems to be making more mistakes because of this.

He's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

You know i have to agree with you there, i think its his attitude and fighting attitude that made him great. Its like he's a dog on a leash now. He lost a lot of time behind shumi.

I disagree. It looks more like Hamilton has pretty much given up on the sport considering this is his third year in a row of being in one of the most successful teams in the sports history and having a crap car, and that's not including the abnormal amount of FIA interest he gets.

 

[kharma45]

I'll look forward to seeing both of these in a more competitive car, but not for a while yet, I think it's important that both earn the remaval of their rookie stripes in mid and rear field teams for a couple of years so that they improve their racecraft at a natural and organic rate.

There'll be no room for either one yet, not unless Ferrari decide to ditch Massa.

I'd say 2-3 years yet until one of them make their way into a top 3 team.

 

[rockman zx]

Very good race, congrats to Vettel, 2 WDC and driving very well al the season, Button another smart race and Alonso driving like a god the piece of junk that it's the F150.

Very good race for Schumi and Algersuari too.

Hamilton didn't do anything specially wrong today but lately Button is making him look bad in the sense that Button drives so smart, easy and clean, it's just amazing.

 

[PdotMichael]

Even after the race, it continues.



He's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.



I disagree. It looks more like Hamilton has pretty much given up on the sport considering this is his third year in a row of being in one of the most successful teams in the sports history and having a crap car, and that's not including the abnormal amount of FIA interest he gets.

He started as 2nd and finished as 4th. I don't know if you call it a great race for Hamilton.

 

[Nolan.]

He seems to have reigned himself in slightly, but this more docile Lewis is in conflict with his native driving style and he seems to be making more mistakes because of this.

Thing is he's not really making mistakes in cautious mode, it's just that it's allowing other people to get closer to him. His race was spoiled from the minute he missed Seb and Alonso on the restart, because he was paying too much attention to Michael. I thought I would like a more cautious Lewis but i'm not sure, perhaps his risky approach is just better for him even with the amount of consequences it comes with if it goes wrong, because him being restrained doesn't look exciting at all.

He started as 2nd and finished as 4th. I don't know if you call it a great race for Hamilton.

Dude just chill out, i'm not sure what's going on in your life but you're coming across as a very angry person.

 

[Omiee]

BBC forum baby!!.

And sure hamilton is deserving disappointed by the last 3 years but come on now, look at how many drivers were driving for a crappy car for their first few years before they got a chance for a top team.
I think the field will be much closer to each other next year, with ferrari working on their car and mercedes looking to improve their car a lot. I think mclaren will be right up there next year again. Top 5 will be much closer next year than this year.
combination of 2010 and 2011 will be epic.

He started as 2nd and finished as 4th. I don't know if you call it a great race for Hamilton.

Dude can we stop this now. First of all he was fucked behind shumi all race. He knew that if he takes a chance he might either over take him or end up being investigated or something. And he could not take the risk of not finishing. Its a clear example of a driver that cant do anything right in the eyes of the public.

 

[Ark]

He started as 2nd and finished as 4th. I don't know if you call it a great race for Hamilton.

I didn't say that??

 

[Pterion]

It looks more like Hamilton has pretty much given up on the sport considering this is his third year in a row of being in one of the most successful teams in the sports history and having a crap car, and that's not including the abnormal amount of FIA interest he gets.

Really wished he went to RedBull and compete in the same car as Vettel, but that's not going to happen. Oh well, here's to a couple more years of a great talent being wasted at Mclaren, settling for 2nd and 3rd in the WDC. *silently rages*

Well, we had 2008, so it wasn't all so bad.

 

[brotkasten]

 

[Momo]

Hoping senna builds on the points result <3

 

[PdotMichael]

I didn't say that??

your bitching against any Hamilton criticisms, it's a litte too much

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Thing is he's not really making mistakes in cautious mode, it's just that it's allowing other people to get closer to him. His race was spoiled from the minute he missed Seb and Alonso on the restart, because he was paying too much attention to Michael. I thought I would like a more cautious Lewis but i'm not sure, perhaps his risky approach is just better for him even with the amount of consequences it comes with if it goes wrong, because him being restrained doesn't look exciting at all.



Dude just chill out, i'm not sure what's going on in your life but you're coming across as a very angry person.

I agree with Ark; disillusionment might be setting in. A new environment or new set of rules (2013) might be a welcome change for him.

 

[Betta Lines]

http://shinowarsame.com/Home/Media/vettel.gif

LOL. Well played.

 

[Omiee]

your bitching against any Hamilton criticisms, it's a litte too much

And your just searching for things to bitch about, can we just cut it please.

I agree with Ark; disillusionment might be setting in. A new environment or new set of rules (2013) might be a welcome change for him.

What are they targeting with the new rules? Im afraid i haven't read up on it.

 

[PdotMichael]

And your just searching for things to bitch about, can we just cut it please.

yeah,let's continue to wish a crash or something... it's a lot better.

 

[Momo]

uhm wtf is going on here? I was watching the GP and didnt see Hamilton do anything worth commenting on.

 

[Omiee]

Nice stats by ted, interesting that shumi might have cost button and hamilton the race.

yeah,let's continue to wish a crash or something... it's a lot better.

Dude just forget about it, your not convincing anyone in here. sjeeez.

 

[sara_is_anxious]

is Massa the true pace of this year Ferrari or is Alonso overdriving the machinery again?

 

[brotkasten]

uhm wtf is going on here? I was watching the GP and didnt see Hamilton do anything worth commenting on.

It's always Hamilton's fault, doesn't matter what happened or if the didn't even drive.

That said, I still don't think that this thread got bad enough to leave it during a race. Some posters are annoying, sure, but we got at least one banned for some time, so I'm cool with him. And it's definitely a wonderful thread between the races. Wouldn't want to miss it.

 

[Momo]

is Massa the true pace of this year Ferrari or is Alonso overdriving the machinery again?

Alonso is in another class to Massa.

It's always Hamilton's fault, doesn't matter what happened or if the didn't even drive.

uuhhhhmm. lol I don't know whats going on here, but I'm avoiding it with a ten foot pole.

 

[Nolan.]

Lol I thought the Ted V Jenson thing was just a laugh but there really might be some tension between these two

 

[Edmond Dantès]

Ted Kravitz delivering the goods in the F1 forum. "Lewis needed motivation to catch Alonso" That is quite a revealing statement of Lewis' mindset right now.

 

[Omiee]

lol button always walking away, man i love that guy. Such a nice guy, true true champion. Paper champion my ass, he is consistent and has been amazing this year.


ah man this is gold, what a interview lol

 

[PdotMichael]

Nice stats by ted, interesting that shumi might have cost button and hamilton the race.




Dude just forget about it, your not convincing anyone in here. sjeeez.

After the Spa iccident with Kobayashi, I never said something against Hamilton, because I am someone who said it's racing. But, today. the radio comments and interview from Hamilton are absurd.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

And your just searching for things to bitch about, can we just cut it please.



What are they targeting with the new rules? Im afraid i haven't read up on it.

The new technical regulations may suit his driving style, same with Schumacher as well if he carries on for another year.

 

[Omiee]

The new technical regulations may suit his driving style, same with Schumacher as well if he carries on for another year.

What are some of the rules that will come in?

Man jenson is being put on the spot right here, what an interview.

 

[Betta Lines]

I don't think Sky is going to be able to deliver interviews like this.

 

[Nolan.]

'Why do you think you could pass him and Lewis couldn't'... How about it's harder trying to keep two drivers behind and Michael inevitably had to open up a gap for someone to capitalize on, sometimes I don't even. Jenson is a good drive and all but it wasn't that blinding of a move.

 

[Xun]

I don't think Sky is going to be able to deliver interviews like this.

Honestly I hope they don't come anywhere close to the BBC coverage.

I want it to bite them in the arse.

 

[Ark]

Man jenson is being put on the spot right here, what an interview.[/QUOTE]

The new engine rules are the only things that are cemented atm, I think anyway. There are bound to be new aero rules, but I think the Technical Working Group are still discussing everything.

Button interviews are always a great feature on the show, same with Webber interviews.

 

[Momo]

'Why do you think you could pass him and Lewis couldn't'... How about it's harder trying to keep two drivers behind and Michael inevitably had to open up a gap for someone to capitalize on, sometimes I don't even. Jenson is a good drive and all but it wasn't that blinding of a move.

Watching the race, I felt Schumacher didn't put a fight up because he was getting ready to pit.

 

[Edmond Dantès]

What are some of the rules that will come in?

Man jenson is being put on the spot right here, what an interview.

Engines will be four cylinders, 1.6 litre with high pressure gasoline injection up to 500 bar with a maximum of 12,000 rpm, with extensive energy management and KERS,
modifications to aerodynamic regulations in order to improve the aerodynamic efficiency,
the height of the tip of the nose will be limited to ensure better compatibility in a T-bone style accidents,
limitation on transmissions (gear ratios, number of gearboxes) in order to decrease costs,
overall weight of the car must be no less than 660kg. 

 

[Omiee]

Man jenson is being put on the spot right here, what an interview.

The new engine rules are the only things that are cemented atm, I think anyway. There are bound to be new aero rules, but I think the Technical Working Group are still discussing everything.

Button interviews are always a great feature on the show, same with Webber interviews.[/QUOTE]


Im disappointed by the new engine rule, i hope it fairs better than i am expecting. But man that interview was funny and tense lol. Some good questions and funny answers.

Engines will be four cylinders, 1.6 litre with high pressure gasoline injection up to 500 bar with a maximum of 12,000 rpm, with extensive energy management and KERS,
modifications to aerodynamic regulations in order to improve the aerodynamic efficiency,
the height of the tip of the nose will be limited to ensure better compatibility in a T-bone style accident,
limitation on transmissions (gear ratios, number of gearboxes) in order to decrease costs,
overall weight of the car must be no less than 660kg.

Sjeez 12.000 rpm, why the fuck are they doing this.

 

[Nolan.]

Watching the race, I felt Schumacher didn't put a fight up because he was getting ready to pit.

It was the same lap that Lewis went onto the grass and allowed Button through so he was still fighting, maybe between that point and Jenson getting up close to him he had a change of heart who knows, but he still battled Lewis after that.

 

[Xun]

Sjeez 12.000 rpm, why the fuck are they doing this.