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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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Shaneus

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Foliorum Viridum said:
Ironic coming from the biggest Webber fanboy in the thread tbh.
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I... how dare you!
 

Ark

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Lucius86 said:
I'm happy being the number 2 fanboy.

c wot i did dere?

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'Maintain the gap Lucius, maintain the gap.'

From now on, any conversation in this thread must take place via pictures & captions :eek:
 
Having done the math, everything is pretty much wrapped up now all but technically. The scenarios do exist for Vettel to still lose the WDC and Red Bull not to win the Constructors' Championship, but the scenarios are highly improbable and rely on Vettel and Webber having non-points finished for the remainder of the season.

Vettel only needs 38 points in the final 6 races to win the title (an average finish of 6th or better will win it for him regardless of what any other driver does), as he has the tiebreaker already. Red Bull needs 122 over those same races (an average of around 20 points per race between their two drivers) to win their title. And those totals assume that their closest rivals win out.
 

Shaneus

Member
Lucius86 said:
I'm happy being the number 2 fanboy.

c wot i did dere?
That's okay. But if anyone asks, we're to be treated as equal-level fanboys.
Foliorum Viridum said:
I like you, but until you've written erotic fanfic of Webber and masturbated to it then you're no Lucius. Sorry.

It's still my favourite go to porn.
Nah, I don't get all wordy like that... that's just weird.

I use Photoshop.
 

Chris R

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The best part about vettel winning like he does is that we get to see footage of actual competitive racing further back. The alonso and button stuff was great as was the schumacher and hamilton stuff. So much better than focusing on second place 2.5 seconds back of first with no chance of catching him.

Wasn't feeling great so I didn't wake up at 4 am to watch the race but the remaining races are at a much more reasonable time.
 

Shaneus

Member
Massa: Webber cost me podium finish

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Have a cry.

On that note, I kind of have to wonder why some drivers battle so hard at the start of a race. Especially when it's likely that strategy and car setup is going to play a more integral part than your position at the end of the first lap. Webber could've easily had a podium if he'd held back and taken Massa at a later stage of the race.

Oh well, off to Singapore! When's F1 2011 coming out again?

Edit: I missed the start of the race, what exactly happened with Liuzzi?
 
Shaneus said:
Massa: Webber cost me podium finish

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Have a cry.

On that note, I kind of have to wonder why some drivers battle so hard at the start of a race. Especially when it's likely that strategy and car setup is going to play a more integral part than your position at the end of the first lap. Webber could've easily had a podium if he'd held back and taken Massa at a later stage of the race.

Oh well, off to Singapore! When's F1 2011 coming out again?

Edit: I missed the start of the race, what exactly happened with Liuzzi?
He wiped out 4/5 cars on first corner. Was one of the best crashes this season.

Also, in the heat of the moment when those lights go out the end of the race probably seems days away. You'd put your foot down and go for the next guy ahead of you too!

Edit: Also, I like you a lot, so I hope you're getting 2011 on PC!
 

f0rk

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Shaneus said:
Oh well, off to Singapore! When's F1 2011 coming out again?

Edit: I missed the start of the race, what exactly happened with Liuzzi?

Week on Tuesday for America, the Friday for superior Brit land.

And Liuzzi gave HRT their highest ever position during a race for 5 seconds so good result for them.
 

Septimius

Junior Member
Shaneus said:

It really, really did not. Massa needs to get himself together.



Man. Today's race was fantastic. I was sad to see Schumacher's last lap in qual being compromised, but shit happens. It seems Martin is finally picking up on Schumacher's brilliant start. I spent the entire last season watching his starts, and I think he averaged on about 3-4 places. His brilliant starts were a fact so much so that I vividly remember the only time he had a poor start last season - Valencia, where Sutil took out his front wing. At that point Schumie had already taken about 2 places.

I thoroughly enjoyed the fight between him and Hamilton today, particularly the point where Hamilton overtook Schumacher, only to be re-overtaken into the second chicane. I would've done the same as Michael did when he eventually 'let' Hamilton pass - it was hampering them both at that point, and I would've figured he would've found a way past, at some point, and refocused on my own race.

I did get a new-found respect for Hamilton, today. He was calmer and not over-ambitious. He took his time and found a way around, and had to deal with Schumacher giving nothing away for free. Best of all, he didn't come out on the other side, stomping his feet and pouting, but said it was a fair fight, albeit it feels like he is still trying to hold back his feelings. But this, combined with his great skills and huge array of strong-points, is an incredibly competitive combination.

The methodical and very calculated defending from Schumacher makes me realise he still has it. I am hoping with all my hope that he will be in a competitive car before he re-retires. I think everyone at this point feel he would deserve a win to crown off his career, and I think everyone has found a new view of him through his comeback. I immensely respect him for daring to do a comeback. It shows me a man worth rooting for, and worth drawing motivation from. He could easily have leant back and enjoyed his 'legendary' status, never to touch it and breeze on with it, but rather he showed the world that he is in no way done pushing himself to all the limits, and that his legendary status should not rest solely on what he's done.

But mostly he remains my idol, even more than ever, because his status is not the most important thing to him. He's not here to rest on his previous achievements. To me, that is a man that is inferior to no one. He is not back to win, but he's back to pursuit the victory. He isn't back to pad on his legend, he's back in spite of all he has to live up to. This is a man that follows his heart and himself. He shows us that life is too short to think about what everyone else thinks. He shows me happiness.
 

Shaneus

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Septimius said:
But mostly he remains my idol, even more than ever, because his status is not the most important thing to him. He's not here to rest on his previous achievements. To me, that is a man that is inferior to no one. He is not back to win, but he's back to pursuit the victory. He isn't back to pad on his legend, he's back in spite of all he has to live up to. This is a man that follows his heart and himself. He shows us that life is too short to think about what everyone else thinks. He shows me happiness.
I'd beg to differ on that regard. While I can't back it up with evidence, there was an air of arrogance and self-entitlement to him last year which just rubbed me up the wrong way. This year it definitely seems like he's doing it for the right reasons and genuinely enjoys racing more.

Attitude-wise, he's a completely different guy than last year IMO.
 
Edmond Dantès said:
Destroyed F1's image in the US single-handedly and the rebuilding process starts in Texas over a year from now.
That's probably overstating it a bit. It did no favors but it's not like F1 had much of an image here to begin with. It was already several years into the deal to host at Indy and there was no appreciable growth in popularity in that time, and I sincerely doubt that'll change when it comes back. I just don't see F1 ever becoming more than a niche here, sadly.
 
f0rk said:
Week on Tuesday for America, the Friday for superior Brit land.

And Liuzzi gave HRT their highest ever position during a race for 5 seconds so good result for them.

Oh shit, I should pre-order that, I guess. >.>
 

Septimius

Junior Member
Shaneus said:
I'd beg to differ on that regard. While I can't back it up with evidence, there was an air of arrogance and self-entitlement to him last year which just rubbed me up the wrong way. This year it definitely seems like he's doing it for the right reasons and genuinely enjoys racing more.

Attitude-wise, he's a completely different guy than last year IMO.

I think it's a bit of the different press he's been getting lately. Of course, initially, he was hoping to get into a competitive car, which seemed likely, seen how Brawn GP fared. No matter what your motivations, realizing your car won't get you wins is a brick-wall to the face for someone in his position. Even The Old One should be entitled to hope for a better car, which also gives he bitter-sweet start of this season. I agree that he has accepted his position, to a whole different extent this season, but his motivation for driving seems little different to me from when he re-appeared to today, with the exception of the aforementioned kinks and initial hopes.

And, of course, the acceptance of his position is largely why people view him in a different light as of the last few races.
 
Xun said:
Watching a bit of the US 2005 race.

What a disaster.
Kinda cool to watch in retrospect though. I was amazed seeing how it played out during the FIA review I watched.

I mean, shit for the sport at the time and shit for the fans, but a very unique and interesting moment nonetheless.
 
RomanticHeroX said:
That's probably overstating it a bit. It did no favors but it's not like F1 had much of an image here to begin with. It was already several years into the deal to host at Indy and there was no appreciable growth in popularity in that time, and I sincerely doubt that'll change when it comes back. I just don't see F1 ever becoming more than a niche here, sadly.
yeah. Both Moto GP races sell pretty good but it just isn't that known or supported. All we do is get the crappy stuff from Speed and that's with Americans racing in the damn thing.

Also, thanks to SunhiLegend and his amazing gifs!
 

AcridMeat

Banned
Just watched the race. Not surprised by the result, Schumacher being Schumacher, Hamilton playing safe in the interviews, boring.

At least I got drunk while watching.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Damn, I wish that we could hear some more 'Whine FM' in the race edit :D

Liuzzi had awesome start, he even advanced several spots, but then he managed to get on the grass with one wheel, lost control and went bowling.
 
its heartening and disheartening to see Alonso 2nd in the championship.
tremendous that there were boos on the podium and then the entire pit straight erupted when Alonso was presented and then cresendoed when he came to the barrier to acknowledge it was for them.

i can see history repeating itself. 2 time Briatore champion, middle years Newey car dominance, then a Ferrari golden age.

Vettel is the Häkkinen of his time, enjoy it son, because the Scuderia have found its god made man again.


also given the race that pumpkinhead massa had, the race edit will have more WhineFM with DJ Smedley on the PTT
 

Nolan.

Member
I really wished Liuzzi didn't take Rosberg out, he was on for a great race against the others ahead of him particularly Webber and Jenson, now we'll never know
 

Edmond Dantès

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Templar Wizard said:
its heartening and disheartening to see Alonso 2nd in the championship.
tremendous that there were boos on the podium and then the entire pit straight erupted when Alonso was presented and then cresendoed when he came to the barrier to acknowledge it was for them.

i can see history repeating itself. 2 time Briatore champion, middle years Newey car dominance, then a Ferrari golden age.

Vettel is the Häkkinen of his time, enjoy it son, because the Scuderia have found its god made man again.


also given the race that pumpkinhead massa had, the race edit will have more WhineFM with DJ Smedley on the PTT
Difference is, they haven't got one of the greatest designers in F1 history (Rory Byrne) alongside Newey, Chapman and Murray, designing their cars. The aero guys at Ferrari right now are competent, but pale in significance to Rory.
Nolan. said:
I really wished Liuzzi didn't take Rosberg out, he was on for a great race against the others ahead of him particularly Webber and Jenson, now we'll never know
I'm hoping Rosberg doesn't end up following the same path as Heidfeld and gets a win at least.
 
As we have the next dominant driver coming on strong, there is a chance for the next aero man. as we all can see Ferrari have identified it and money is no question.

Newey and his quallfying robots have been beaten before and they will be beaten again.

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Adamm

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Eugh, Webbers retirement hurt me bad in f1racemanager. I dropped a few places for the first time in about 7 races :(
My dream of reaching the top 25 before the end of the season is nearly out of reach!
 

Nolan.

Member
Edmond Dantès said:
Difference is, they haven't got one of the greatest designers in F1 history (Rory Byrne) alongside Newey, Chapman and Murray, designing their cars. The aero guys at Ferrari right now are competent, but pale in significance to Rory.

Then the guy they groomed to become Rory's successor is moving over to Mercedes (if rumors are to be believed). I'm not sure what to think about Ferrari's talk about setting a formidable structure in place, I want to believe that they will pick up some (and maintain) momentum moving into next season but i'm not feeling it. I still find it kind of strange removing Costa altogether, probably because i'm not too convinced Fry won't be jumping ship again sometime soon.
 
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