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The Formula 1 2011 Season of Vettel Fingering the Competition |OT|

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DrM

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Traffic will still be a big problem during the race.
End of start-finish line, maybe before turn 5 and between turns 9 and 10 are only possible overtaking spots.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
shas'la said:
Is she in Spain this weekend? I shall have to pay extra attention to race coverage if so.
Yep there was a shot of her at the end of the session looking very nice!
 

mclaren777

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I've been really fascinated by the holes in the brake discs this year.

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mclaren777

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Analysis reveals substantial F1 profits

An investigation conducted by Formula Money states that Formula 1 enjoyed net 2010 profits of $131.1 million (£85m), despite paying teams an estimated $658m. The latest figures bring CVC Capital Partner's earnings sum to $1.22 billion since buying into the sport five year ago.

The results, released by Formula Money on Thursday, come as rumours continue to circulate about possible buyers for the sport such as Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation. CVC itself, as 63.4 percent owner of F1 parent company Delta Topco, managed profits of $87m (£53.6m) in 2010.

The analysis also reveals that Bernie Ecclestone and his family trusts have made profit in the region of $148m (£91.2m) since 2006, as well as a salary of $31m (£19.1m) for the 80-year-old Englishman.

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Leunam

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mclaren777 said:
I've been really fascinated by the different brake disc vents this year.

Having mesh closing the vent makes a lot of sense (McLaren) especially now with all the clag on the track, even if it's off the line. I'm curious why they are the only ones opting for it. Maybe other teams aren't as worried about debris.
 

mclaren777

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Leunam said:
Having mesh closing the vent makes a lot of sense (McLaren) especially now with all the clag on the track, even if it's off the line. I'm curious why they are the only ones opting for it. Maybe other teams aren't as worried about debris.
The cooling ducts are cool and it makes sense that different cars use different housings, but I was talking about the holes in the carbon discs themselves. I'm fascinated by the differences we've seen this year. You'd think that there would be one ideal solution.
 

Leunam

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Yeah I actually meant duct, not vent, sorry. Two different things. But yeah, seeing the inner workings of an F1 car is pretty awesome.
 

mclaren777

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Breaking news from Peter Windsor...

- Rear flap adjustment will be available on the last TWO straights in Canada - one detection zone at chicane before hairpin
- To have 2 race flap activation zones, a circuit's straights must be consecutive. Valencia likely next after Canada
- More @ http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/05/20/two-race-drs-zones-from-montreal-onwards/

- Ferrari rear wing drama: Slot-gap separators must be 200mm apart. Rule 3.10.3.
- FIA will decide tonight on legality of Ferrari's new rear wing
 

Leunam

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Jarno "I fucking hate Pirelli tires" Trulli has some company this weekend:

Via Formula 1

Vettel said:
It was a very productive day - it was the first real chance we had with the new spec of hard tyres – and I can confirm they are pretty hard!

Hamilton said:
It didn’t feel too good this morning on the harder tyre, which was difficult to switch on and difficult to make last, but this afternoon’s running was very positive.

Alonso said:
The tyres? Pirelli has brought a new type of “hard” and it’s hard to imagine we can get through Q1 without having to resort to using the “softs.”

Massa said:
I had lots of problems getting the tyres to work, especially the hard compound, and I didn’t manage to put together a good time.

Rosberg said:
Of course, it's difficult to say where we really are because the hard tyres didn't work so well today and it was very windy.

Kobayashi said:
The new super-hard compound gives you the feeling you are driving a totally different car. They are so slow. This is going to be tricky for everyone and might produce interesting tyre strategies in the race.

Perez said:
We were learning a lot about our aero update and the new tyre compound. As it is quite slow compared to the soft compound, you will obviously want to use the soft ones as much as you can in the race.

Heidfeld said:
What was really interesting today were Pirelli’s new super hard tyres. Although we’ve gained some experience of them occasionally on Fridays, we haven’t used them a lot and they didn’t really perform as I expected. They are significantly slower over one lap and during the long run too. That’s the main difference between them and the previous hard tyres.

Hamilton calls the tires a disaster here.

"The super-hard tyre is a disaster, so that wasn't nice to drive," said Hamilton after practice.

When asked what he meant by a disaster, he added: "A disaster, to drive. A two-second difference, and they don't last that long.

"I don't know why they brought that tyre, because I thought the other one was pretty good. It looks pretty difficult to switch it on and then to last.

"I think we are about two and a half seconds off the pace with that tyre. Then we switch to the normal soft and it's fantastic. I think you will see most people with that tyre during the weekend."
 

mclaren777

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Leunam said:
Also, TWO DRS zones wtf
It sounds like a terrible idea because there's only one activation zone. This is what I envision happening: Car 2 passes Car 1 as they approach the pit-in chicane, then Car 2 builds unfair advantage going into Turn 1 because it still has DRS privileges.

I'm surprised that the FIA doesn't see that as a problem.
 

dubc35

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Hamilton said:
"A disaster, to drive. A two-second difference, and they don't last that long.

Hmm, it seems to counter what Pirelli is saying as far as how long they last. 10 laps is quite a bit longer.

Paul Hembery said:
"One of the main objectives that we have outlined for the new PZero Silver tyre is to provide a bigger contrast to our existing PZero Yellow soft tyre and the initial information that we have from the free practice sessions seems to confirm that this is the case, as we expected. We're getting about 10 laps more out of the new harder tyre compared to the previous version and while this obviously comes at the expense of some performance, which will not be to the liking of all the teams, it emphasizes the crossover point between the hard and the soft tyres.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/5/12053.html
 
I think it's somewhat promising they're at least experimenting with it. So far, races have been eventful, so I don't want them to make it so that this ceases to be the case, but I also like the fact that it's not set in stone yet and things might get even better.

This season is basically one big experiment in many respects.
 

shas'la

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mclaren777 said:
Breaking news from Peter Windsor...

- Rear flap adjustment will be available on the last TWO straights in Canada - one detection zone at chicane before hairpin
- To have 2 race flap activation zones, a circuit's straights must be consecutive. Valencia likely next after Canada
- More @ http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/05/20/two-race-drs-zones-from-montreal-onwards/

- Ferrari rear wing drama: Slot-gap separators must be 200mm apart. Rule 3.10.3.
- FIA will decide tonight on legality of Ferrari's new rear wing

Sauber got fucked by their rear wing, so unless Ferrari change ti, then they can fuck off trying to get any points on sunday.
 

Lucius86

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shas'la said:
Sauber got fucked by their rear wing, so unless Ferrari change ti, then they can fuck off trying to get any points on sunday.

To me, it seems unfair Sauber got fucked with their wing after testing it's legality post-race, yet Ferrari get theirs trialled before Quali this weekend, which I am assuming they can change in case it breaks regs? Correct me if I am wrong.
 

DrM

Redmond's Baby
Lucius86 said:
To me, it seems unfair Sauber got fucked with their wing after testing it's legality post-race, yet Ferrari get theirs trialled before Quali this weekend, which I am assuming they can change in case it breaks regs? Correct me if I am wrong.
We all know what FIA stands for ;)
 

AcridMeat

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Won't be around for GAF-F1 this weekend, busy tonight and Saturday and watching the race with a friend Sunday.

Maybe this finally will be the race where we see qualifying not matter and everyone reserves their softs for the race.
 

S. L.

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shas'la said:
Sauber got fucked by their rear wing, so unless Ferrari change ti, then they can fuck off trying to get any points on sunday.
Ferrari will be allowed to use the wing and the FIA will look like obvious tools
 

Deadman

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Surely they cant run the wing and take the risk of being disqualified after, that would be crazy.

But also it would be funny.

Edit: Oh its before final practice. Doesnt matter then.
 

Ark

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Raikkonen not ruling out an F1 return: Autosport.

I guess I'll be the first to say I don't want to see Kimi back in F1. Don't get me wrong, he's quite easily one of my favourite racers, but he'll be just like Schumacher is now. Lacklustre.

Having said that, I've no doubt he would prove me wrong in a heartbeat.
 

navanman

Crown Prince of Custom Firmware
Ark said:
Raikkonen not ruling out an F1 return: Autosport.

I guess I'll be the first to say I don't want to see Kimi back in F1. Don't get me wrong, he's quite easily one of my favourite racers, but he'll be just like Schumacher is now. Lacklustre.

Having said that, I've no doubt he would prove me wrong in a heartbeat.

Kimi and Vettel in the RBR. Make it happen!
 

Leunam

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The European leg of the 2011 season begins in Spain at the notorious Circuit de Catalunya. Known for being a track where overtaking is particularly difficult, Catalunyas reputation may change now that it bring the longest DRS zone to date.

2010 Race Summary

The front-row starting Red Bulls of Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel started well off the line, and even though they were challenged by Lewis Hamilton and local hero Fernando Alonso on the long dragrace to the first corner, they maintained their positions with polesitter Webber leading. Reigning world champion Jenson Button and seven-time world champion Michael Schumacher kept fifth and sixth, but there was light contact between Robert Kubica and Kamui Kobayashi which sent both falling down the order. Nico Rosberg in the second Mercedes was forced to take evasive action and ran onto the grass. Kobayashi's BMW Sauber team-mate Pedro de la Rosa had a smilar altercation with Sébastien Buemi that resulted in a puncture for the Spaniard, while Buemi was demoted to last on the road. The incident would later morph into a greater problem for de la Rosa, forcing him to retire with accident damage. The other first-lap incident saw an early exit for Bruno Senna, his Hispania spearing into the barriers at the same corner as the Buemi-de la Rosa incident. Lotus's Heikki Kovalainen was the only driver who failed to start the race when his gearbox software attempted to select two gears at the same time.

The Red Bulls, especially Webber, slowly started pulling away from Hamilton, but the rate at which he pulled away was not as quick as one would have expected. The gap to Hamilton increased by two or three tenths of a second per lap, not by a full second as suggested in practice and qualifying. The first and only round of pit stops came shortly after lap fifteen, and a mistake by Red Bull cost Vettel four seconds, and a place to Hamilton. McLaren also did not have a perfect pitstop with Button, the result being that he came out behind Schumacher at the end of turn 1. Button was later critical of the German's swipe across the circuit to claim the position. He spent the rest of the race looking at the Mercedes' rear wing.

The sole surviving Hispania of Karun Chandhok was caught up in two separate incidents in the final sector of the circuit. The first saw contact between his car and Felipe Massa's Ferrari as the latter attempted to lap him as they negotiated the corner before the final chicane; Massa, who had been lacking speed all weekend, experienced a better-handling car with a damaged front wing. A pitstop would have meant dropping down at least two or three places for Massa and since the handling of the car wasn't hampered much due to the damage, the team took the decision of not bringing Massa in for a front wing change. The second of Chandhok's incidents saw Jaime Alguersuari chop across his front end at the same corner, knocking his front wing off. Chandhok was forced to pit, but retired a lap later with suspension damage caused by the collision; Alguersuari was given a drive through penalty for his efforts. His team-mate Buemi had been penalised earlier after rejoining the track in unsafe manner, just ahead of Jarno Trulli.

Williams gambled on a two-stop strategy for Nico Hülkenberg, a mistake that shunted the German driver down the order where he was caught up in a duel with a struggling Rosberg. Sébastien Buemi was the only other retirement, stopping on lap forty-four with hydraulics problems.

The race order settled down with Webber leading from Hamilton and Vettel. Alonso was fourth, ahead of the Schumacher-Button scrap which Massa also joined, with Sutil, Kubica and the recovering Rubens Barrichello in the Williams completing the top ten. On lap fity-four, Vettel went wide at turn six, with a suspected front brake failure and had a trip across the gravel. This damaged his tyres, and he came in for inspection and also for a new set of tyres, which dropped him behind Alonso. It was soon evident that he was struggling with brake issues, and thus Vettel had to slow down for the rest of the race to nurse his brakes and finish the race. On lap sixty-five – the penultimate lap of the race – Hamilton lost second place when he suffered a left-front tyre puncture followed shortly by a blowout at turn three, which punted him into the wall. He was classified as finishing fourteenth as he had completed 90% of the winner's race distance, his accident gifting second place to Alonso and allowing the fading Vettel back onto the podium for third. Vitantonio Liuzzi suffered a similar fate to Hamilton when his engine gave up on the same lap, the Italian stopping on the circuit.

Mark Webber crossed the finish line first, becoming the tenth driver in ten Spanish Grands Prix to win from pole. Alonso finished second, with Vettel third and the unresolved Schumacher-Button scrap seeing the former World Champion home before the defending champion. Massa finished sixth, followed by Sutil, Kubica, and Barrichello and Alguersuari, who were a lap down. Jarno Trulli's Lotus was the first of the new teams to finish the race, whilst Virgin Racing notched up their first double-finish of the season, despite Timo Glock and Lucas di Grassi driving different versions of the VR-01. The final result meant that Button kept his championship lead going into the next round by just three points, while the same amount separated McLaren from Ferrari in the constructors' standings, with Red Bull only a further three points behind.

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Ferrari (11)​

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