doesn't look too bad from this angle.
lol
loads of pictures:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...tart-in-woche-2-8089053.html?fotoshow_item=87
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doesn't look too bad from this angle.
lol
loads of pictures:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...tart-in-woche-2-8089053.html?fotoshow_item=87
Myoclonic Jerk
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Any pics of Ferrari's "bigger update package" or it's not visible?
Psychotext
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Looks like there probably wont be any more running before lunch thanks to that stoppage.
Psychotext
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I wonder what the current odds are on a Merc double this year.
Myoclonic Jerk
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Good question..
Should put a $100 on Mercedes WCC.. almost a guaranteed bet now
EDIT 11/10 Merc
Redbull 3/1
Ferrari 7/2
Psychotext
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I suspect anyone that bet before the first day of testing could be looking at a tidy profit.
To be fair, its not just FER... ;-P
Laps till intermission:
Rosberg 64, Bottas 43, Kwyat 43, Magnussen 40, Perez 37, Ricciardo 32, Sutil 31, Maldonado 31, Chilton 16, Räikkönen 12, Kobayashi 7.
Psychotext
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Yup. Will be VERY interesting to see the speed trap times on Saturday because theoretically that'll represent the power output the Renault engine is getting homologated at.
There were rumors since early last year that the Ferrari engine was very thirsty so maybe they had to reduce the power to reach the limit where they can reach the end of races with 100kg of fuel.
We even had some Ferrari engineers complaining in the media about F1 becoming a fuel conservation series in the future. And everytime a Ferrari engineer complains about stuff like this it's because they are in serious trouble.
Let's face it, it seems more and more likely that Mercedes teams will completely destroy the field this year. Now let's wait McLaren is able to challenge Mercedes.
Psychotext
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Sauber is running Ferrari engines this year right?
Don´t think so. Usable horsepower will be the question this year.
a) gas usage
b) rear traction
are the limiting elements.
BTW, Merc program for the afternoon: more race sims, and pit stop training.
Psychotext
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Gas usage is limited by flow anyway isn't it? Sure, the fuel tank is even more restrictive but if what we've seen so far is any indication then anyone not in a Merc engined car isn't going to make Q3 anyway.
Psychotext
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I just hope we get a good battle between Rosberg and Hamilton.
Yep! I´m actually tempted by those odds posted earlier - 6/1 ROS doesn´t look too bad.
But we only have 8 Mercedes powered cars
All other cars retire due to mechanical failures...
Psychotext
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But yeah... ok. The Merc engined cars and whichever other's haven't exploded.
I think it's clear the Caterham has the biggest package, and that's quite visible.
McLaren closer to Mercedes this time around? Might just be a rogue data point. Force India suddenly looking very impressive indeed.
I believe they said they would be progressively putting out updates throughout the week.
Based on his initial performance, I think Magnussen's undervalued, too.
brotkasten
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Psychotext
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\o/
That corner after the first long straight is a wasted opportunity for a decent passing spot.
Psychotext
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I wonder how the speed traps are looking today.
Dutch Gronk
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My. Fucking. God.
This year is going to fucking suck again isn't it. They can't do anything right these days. And now instea of just wasting Alonso his career, they are also killing Kimi. Terrible.
brotkasten
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At least one Ferrari powered car is in good shape!
Psychotext
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Give them a break. Sawing off all that bodywork takes time.
Nicktendo86
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Ben Anderson says the McLaren on it's long run looks 'solid', whatever that means...
Psychotext
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Looks like Red Bull still fucked.
Mastah
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Nicktendo86
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Oh sweet jesus, the McLaren long run times are not good at all, the Williams looks much better (don't know fuel loads yadayada)
15:42 Here is the second stint of 22 laps Magnussen on medium tires: out lap - 1:40.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.1 - 1:44.3 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.2 - 1:45.8 - 1:46.4 - 1:46.6 - Inlap
15:45 And here Vergleuich for the second stint of 21 laps Bottas also on medium tires: out lap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.9 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.7 - Inlap
15:42 Here is the second stint of 22 laps Magnussen on medium tires: out lap - 1:40.5 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.0 - 1:41.8 - 1:42.7 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.1 - 1:43.5 - 1:43.7 - 1:44.1 - 1:44.3 - 1:45.0 - 1:45.2 - 1:45.8 - 1:46.4 - 1:46.6 - Inlap
15:45 And here Vergleuich for the second stint of 21 laps Bottas also on medium tires: out lap - 1:40.4 - 1:41.1 - 1:41.5 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.3 - 1:41.7 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.6 - 1:41.9 - 1:41.8 - 1:41.9 - 1:42.0 - 1:42.5 - 1:42.4 - 1:42.9 - 1:43.3 - 1:43.4 - 1:43.7 - Inlap
Looking at these stints, degradation is huge :/ So much for less deg this year
Funny thing is that on 2013 cars these tyres would probably allow 1 stoppers with pushing all the way.
Hard to say, as we do not know the fuel loads; and please keep in mind that the track temp was/is continually rising today.
Nicktendo86
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Well at least RB are still having problems, 15 days before Oz first practice. That's cheered me up actually
brotkasten
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Latest from Lotus:
"Diagnosis is exhaust issue (one of the new parts for this test) so we're stripping down and investigating further."
"Diagnosis is exhaust issue (one of the new parts for this test) so we're stripping down and investigating further."
Nicktendo86
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They seem to have spun more and had more issues than some others, especially McLaren. That's all I've got, other than that they are going to dominate.
Psychotext
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There's every chance that their wheel bearings wear out from overuse. Perhaps the padding in the seats becomes a little lumpy.
brotkasten
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And Lotus is done for today. Now they can take a bath with the guys from Red Bull.
Did you really say HOPE?!?
And you still remember 1998, right? Merc is not gonna win, if the FIA can do something against it...
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