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The ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection |OT| Ueda *bow*

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DjangoReinhardt

Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
Yoshichan said:
Yeah it's not going to be hard but I still think the speedrun trophies are off in this one. I truly do not feel that ICO is supposed to be rushed, other cute trophies could've been made that would enhance the experience. Stuff like "stay on the windmill for longer than 30 seconds" to guarantee that people will actually look at the amazing view from the place etc.
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That seems like the point, though: it incentivizes you to play through the game in a different fashion than normal.
 
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Carl

Member
Gonna come right out and say it... til now i didn't even know there were lizards in SoTC. This is new to me :p
 
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KennyLinder

Member
Carl said:
Gonna come right out and say it... til now i didn't even know there were lizards in SoTC. This is new to me :p
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:D There are fruit on trees too. Also, SPOILER ALERT!...

...the symbols on the saving temples match the doors in Ico.
 
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Magnus

Member
toythatkills said:
Just in system settings: http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/notification.html
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Oh Christ, thank you.

Really never needed to see another pointless trophy message/*DING* shit up my gameplay experience, especially in something as involving and engrossing as either Team ICO game. Not a troll post; I really hate achievements/trophies, and don't want them always popping up and reminding me I'm playing a game sometimes. I certainly don't want them inappropriately punctuating emotional moments in games, particularly ICO/SOTC.

THANK YOU!!
 
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Carl

Member
KennyLinder said:
:D There are fruit on trees too. Also, SPOILER ALERT!...

...the symbols on the saving temples match the doors in Ico.
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Pssst

I never knew there were saving temples either. I only ever saved after defeating colossi
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Magnus said:
Oh Christ, thank you.

Really never needed to see another pointless trophy message/*DING* shit up my gameplay experience, especially in something as involving and engrossing as either Team ICO game. Not a troll post; I really hate achievements/trophies, and don't want them always popping up and reminding me I'm playing a game sometimes. I certainly don't want them inappropriately punctuating emotional moments in games, particularly ICO/SOTC.

THANK YOU!!
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Oh man are you going to be disappointed :p

No, disabling those will not disable trophy notifications. It disables all other notificantion though, at least. It's not possible to disable trophy notifications on PS3, but it's understandable that there's such confusion over this as the option that seemingly does just that is in the settings.

vodka-bull said:
Would anybody mind trying this out to see if it works for trophies as well? I always thought that works only for messages and friends on/offline statuses.
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It doesn't work, I can guarantee you this 100%. I keep that option switched off sometimes, and when I do that, I don't get any notifications of who went online/offline or when I get a message from someone. However, trophy notifications still appear.

Only solution against them is to give someone else to play through the game first, so when you play it next, you don't see trophies anymore :p
 
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Kinyou

Member
So does ICO still hold up? I'll be buying it anyway but mostly for Shadow of the Colossus which I unfortunately never got to finish.
 
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KennyLinder

Member
Carl said:
Pssst

I never knew there were saving temples either. I only ever saved after defeating colossi
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That's mad! :) I bet you also don't know that in SotC...

there is a beach which is very similar looking to the one at the end of Ico.
 
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KennyLinder

Member
Kinyou said:
So does ICO still hold up? I'll be buying it anyway but mostly for Shadow of the Colossus which I unfortunately never got to finish.
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I played it on PS2 last year and it was still dreamy. Now its dreamy but looks good on a HDTV. So yes, it's still the one of the best videogames of all time. :)
 
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Carl

Member
KennyLinder said:
That's mad! :) I bet you also don't know that in SotC...

there is a beach which is very similar looking to the one at the end of Ico.
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...I've never played ICO. This makes me feel ashamed. At least it will be rectified soon :p
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
astroturfing said:
i agree with this sentiment, but now that i think about it... we know Ueda thinks of his and his team's games just as games, he doesn't consider them to be art or anything. so it's natural if he wanted to include "gamey" trophies.

i would like to grab him by the collar and shake him and yell into his ear "NO THEY ARE NOT JUST GAMES!!"... goddamnit.
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Yeah I'd definitely like to grab him by the collar and show him one of my rooms. They're literally decorated with his work, from that EU ICO cover to Wander standing in front of Gaius.
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Ueda said:
Next, coming at some indeterminate time in the future, is The Last Guardian. Does Ueda see his past two games and the upcoming one as a trilogy? "They share a common thread of AI-driven characters," he replied, "whose charms can only be portrayed in game form -- Ico's Yorda, Shadow's Agro and the colossi, and The Last Guardian's Trico. You can build intriguing characters in movies and novels just as well, of course, but these artificial characters driven by human-like personalities are something you only see in games.
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I love that he's thinking about this sort of thing. It's important for games to do things that no other medium can do, in as many aspects as possible.

astroturfing said:
i agree with this sentiment, but now that i think about it... we know Ueda thinks of his and his team's games just as games, he doesn't consider them to be art or anything. so it's natural if he wanted to include "gamey" trophies.
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Or at least that's what he says so that he still gets paid for his work, and to doesn't sound arrogant. A think a lot of the subtext of what else he says (like the quote above) or what he does, says something else.
 
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KennyLinder

Member
Carl said:
...I've never played ICO. This makes me feel ashamed. At least it will be rectified soon :p
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You're in for a treat, its a very special game. I've played it countless times, the game means so much to me, so very very important.
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Carl said:
...I've never played ICO. This makes me feel ashamed. At least it will be rectified soon :p
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Oh boy, you're up for one helluva fine ride sir :)
 
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cackhyena

Member
I beat ICO back in the day but only ever managed to try out the demo of SotC. Can't wait to play it without the hiccups to boot.
 
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Erasus

Member
Wario64 said:
the fuck is this shit
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Why so mad about a PC version?? Imagine this in 1080p and 60fps, just plug in a controller via usb and bam!

I´ll be picking this up! Excited to play both for the first time, had a PS2 but never played these.
 
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Carl

Member
Yoshichan said:
Oh boy, you're up for one helluva fine ride sir :)
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KennyLinder said:
You're in for a treat, its a very special game. I've played it countless times, the game means so much to me, so very very important.
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Can't wait to finally get to play it.
 
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mbmonk

Member
Erasus said:
Why so mad about a PC version?? Imagine this in 1080p and 60fps, just plug in a controller via usb and bam!

I´ll be picking this up! Excited to play both for the first time, had a PS2 but never played these.
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What is this about a pc version? Are we talking official release or just PS2 emus?
 
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The Lamp

Member
What does SCEA not understand about the fact that I would pay good money for that Japanese Limited Edition?? Look at that boxart, holy moley.
 
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Erasus

Member
mbmonk said:
What is this about a pc version? Are we talking official release or just PS2 emus?
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Fist page, someone asked if there was a PC version, and people went
oh man, dont even....
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and the likes.... Because the poygons have to be rendered by a console to get the right experience or something :lol
There is no PC version
 
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StuBurns

Banned
Erasus said:
Because the poygons have to be rendered by a console to get the right experience or something :lol
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I don't think they're against a PC version, more likely they just thought the idea was kind of stupid, being a SCEJ game.
 
ACESmkII

ACESmkII

Member
ICO is a game created by God. Can not wait to play it again in HD.

Only got up the 7th collosi on the ps2 SOTC. Loved the game but the frame rate issues kinda got to me. I'm glad that's been addressed in the HD collection.
 
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Mush

6.0
Guys, I can't decide which game to play first!

I know ICO is short but
timeline wise it comes before after SotC
and I haven't replayed SotC fully in quite a while, which is my favourite of the two. :(
 
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KennyLinder

Member
Mush said:
Guys, I can't decide which game to play first!

I know ICO is short but
timeline wise it comes before SotC
and I haven't replayed SotC fully in quite a while, which is my favourite of the two. :(
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Hold on, are you sure about that (the spoiler)?

Based on...
the ending of SotC, I thought it kinda implied that it's before Ico, not after. The horned baby etc. Unless it's been confirmed that Ico is set before?

I am going to play Ico first for sure.
 
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Mush

6.0
KennyLinder said:
Hold on, are you sure about that (the spoiler)?

Based on...
the ending of SotC, I thought it kinda implied that it's before Ico, not after. The horned baby etc. Unless it's been confirmed that Ico is set before?

I am going to play Ico first for sure.
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Just edited it, typo. :p
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Erasus said:
Why so mad about a PC version?? Imagine this in 1080p and 60fps, just plug in a controller via usb and bam
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I've played it on the emulator like that. Ico looks/feels weird at 60FPS to be honest. With this release you'll be getting it at 1080p / 30FPS anyway, and in many ways it will look better than it does on the emulator too.
 
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Throwaway123456789

Member
Never played any of them really. Looking forward to this!
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RoadHazard

RoadHazard

Gold Member
Lord Error said:
I've played it on the emulator like that. Ico looks/feels weird at 60FPS to be honest. With this release you'll be getting it at 1080p / 30FPS anyway, and in many ways it will look better than it does on the emulator too.
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Only ICO will run at a full 1080p. SotC runs at 960x1080 upscaled (or 720p if you prefer that, which according to Digital Foundry you might).
 
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Kabuki Waq

Member
hayguyz said:
ICO is one giant escort mission. I thought gaf hated those.
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one giant Escort mission filled with block puzzles and horrible combat. I loved the atmosphere and art but thought the game was bad.


SOTC on the other hand was pure awesomeness.
 
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thecouncil

Banned
Kabuki Waq said:
one giant Escort mission filled with block puzzles and horrible combat. I loved the atmosphere and art but thought the game was bad.


SOTC on the other hand was pure awesomeness.
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yeah. it didnt age well. ICO is nowhere near as good as SOTC. not even close.
 
RoadHazard

RoadHazard

Gold Member
shagg_187 said:
The reason for that is the cinema-style widescreen that the game has.
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What? 1080p and 720p are both 16:9 resolutions. So that makes no sense.

Nah, they simply couldn't get SotC running nicely at full 1080p. According to DF, it runs pretty much locked to 30 fps at 720p, drops some frames at 960x1080 upscaled, and runs as poorly as the PS2 original (sometimes even worse - DF noted framerates as low as 10 fps on occasion) at 2x720p (3D). And since 1080p is an even higher resolution than 2x720p, that obviously wasn't feasible (although I guess the 3D mode also takes a hit from having to process geometry twice, etc.).

ICO, on the other hand, runs locked to 30 fps in all these display modes.
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
RoadHazard said:
Only ICO will run at a full 1080p. SotC runs at 960x1080 upscaled (or 720p if you prefer that, which according to Digital Foundry you might).
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That's true, yes. On the positive side, they've added better looking motion blur and more precise HDR effect than what you can get through emulator (and 7.1 surround)

hayguyz said:
ICO is one giant escort mission. I thought gaf hated those.
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It's an example of why generalizations don't work.
 
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