MidnightScott
Banned
Just picked it up at Best Buy on the way home from work! Yay for sales, one of my online friends pointed it out to me. If he didn't I would've missed out on this great offer. Plan to start it soon 
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The ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection |OT| Ueda *bow*
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MoonsaultSlayer
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Compared to portal 2, it's pretty terrible...Shurs said:
Edit: I hope more people understand that my post is a joke and don't treat it as my opinion.
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Melfice7 said:
Some of the towers have 3 lizards by them, but only 1 will show up at a time; so kill it and take its tail, ride far enough away, and come back for another to spawn.
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This game is so fucking frustrating with its trophies.
"Acquire all fruit in the world" What the fuck does that mean? Eat one of each type? Eat every goddam piece of fruit in the game? What?
Well, it means don't bother doing this trophy until you've beaten the game 2.5 times so you have enough stamina to finally climb up the tower to eat the fucking fruit up there first and then go to every fucking tree on the goddam map!
Why can't this shit remember the fruit/lizards from previous playthroughs? It remembers my health and stamina -- how the fuck do you think I maxed out my health if I didn't eat any fruit, you stupid shit?!
Incendiary
Banned
Even though I already own PS2 copies of both Ico and SotC, I broke and bought the collection today at Best Buy. They're just such good games, and I don't have my PS2 with me at my new place and I've had the urge to replay SotC recently. So...I think it's money well spent.
They look pretty great in HD, so I don't think you'll be disappointed. From what I saw of my roommate playing, the framerate stability in SOTC seems to have improved too. It could be my memory and eyes playing tricks on me though.Incendiary said:
The sound is glorious too. c:
Playing ICO for the first time. I love everything about it but I can't really explain why. lol
So with the trophies, are there any of them that you can miss or is getting them pretty self-explanatory? I know it looks like you have to play through the game at least a couple of times to get them all...
So with the trophies, are there any of them that you can miss or is getting them pretty self-explanatory? I know it looks like you have to play through the game at least a couple of times to get them all...
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Wow. Having played and finally beating the game (after I first tried the demo 9 years ago - I thought it was boring and didn't care to try the full game), I really enjoyed the game. Sure I had my frustrations with some of the mechanics at first and the fact you are quickly just thrown into this world. But I came to realize that in Ico the less is more. So much more. Yet, the complexity of the level design and the way the castle is essentially unfolding is just masterful.
What a Masterpiece. Certainly a hell of experience that i'm disappointed I missed out on many years ago. I know it would have had all the more impact if I didn't misjudge the demo when I were younger. At the same time, i'm glad I finally got to experience it (Thanks Bluepoint and Team Ico!) That after credits sequence just blew me away.
Time to playthrough again to find all these secrets.
What a Masterpiece. Certainly a hell of experience that i'm disappointed I missed out on many years ago. I know it would have had all the more impact if I didn't misjudge the demo when I were younger. At the same time, i'm glad I finally got to experience it (Thanks Bluepoint and Team Ico!) That after credits sequence just blew me away.
Time to playthrough again to find all these secrets.
Carl said:
Just finished Argus on hard, and it took an hour and a half between two separate tries. I have no idea how it can be done in 11:30. I must have fallen off that tiny vital over his heart ten times before I finally took it out.
Reeeeeeaaaaaaaalllllllly hoping Sony patches this to make the grip bug less maddening.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Mush said:
You're the only one who has said this.
Every time a colossus moves, at all, you get shaken. When exactly am I supposed to stab?
I did discover, at least for the last colossus, if you back off the weak spot for a few seconds and then go back to it, you get a chance to get a good stab in before it just shakes you forever.
Maybe the whole point is that you're supposed to stab the spot, then move somewhere else, then go back to the spot, but I've NEVER had to play that way before.
But aren't you basically doing what every speed runner does in any last-gen game; finding ways to go from A->B faster?KennyLinder said:
Except based on what you write you seem to attribute every shortcut as the designer's intention instead of the byproduct which it usually is.
If a shortcut you think is promising in concept doesn't pan out in reality, do you subtract that from the game's "designed speedrunability"?
Basically, do you keep a scorecard of the 'hits' and the 'misses' for speedrunning?
Maybe Ueda cares about this, but whenever a game director/designer is interviewed (IIRC) they always say "no that was not a priority, just a happy coincidence".
chronos4590
Member
Just got the last copy for 25 at best buy. The Last freaking copy. Can't wait to load it up.
Sir Ilpalazzo
Member
rhino4evr said:
People aren't just complaining because it's harder, people are complaining because hard time attack is broken.
paperheart
Banned
I'm so excited! I don't know if I should spoiler this or not, but I guess I should just in case.
I was starting to think I wasn't going to get it, but I got it! Wee!
<3 ICO
I beat ICO with the time of 1:58:38 and got the Castle Guide trophy!
I was starting to think I wasn't going to get it, but I got it! Wee!
<3 ICO
Incidentally, it was one of the smoother running fights. Anything with water in the PS2 version was where the framerate woes became nigh unplayable, and there's still issues in the PS3 version (7 especially). It's soooooo very nice to have 16 running buttery smooth, though; it became a slideshow as soon as you got to him and never let up.rhino4evr said:
jett said:Cruising through SotC. 1 hour in, 5 colossi defeated. I've played this game way too many times, and normal is just cake.
Man this game is gorgeous.
I checked How Long To Beat and SotC is like an average of 11 hours. I know I've beaten the game before but I'm at 4 finished an only an hour and ten minutes in (so a bit slower than you). I can't imagine the rest taking 10 hours.
Anyways, I played ICO for the first time ever and really enjoyed it. First like 30 minutes and last 1.5 hours were the best. Took me barely under 5 hours to beat but that's ok considering I only paid $30 for the collection and I'm already replaying SotC.
I had never saved at a save point that wasn't the temple before, I had no idea that Wanda is left in a kinda resting position against the stone, and having left it on the menu, it loads where you are up and Agro goes on a little adventure of his own.
Really nice touch that after all these years I had missed.
Really nice touch that after all these years I had missed.
hey_it's_that_dog said:
I'm just happy I'm not crazy, I imagine the change makes the time attacks on hard a right pain in the ass.
And saying that, whatever they have done has ruined any enjoyment I got fighting the 15th Colossi, doing him now I'm finding it utterly frustrating, any slight movement at all and Wander gets flicked around like crazy, it has taken the best part of the last 20 minutes to take down half his health with small stabs.
Disappointing to say the least.
Deadceptor
Member
Having never played them before, I finally had the pleasure of finishing them last week. ICO was over in 4 hours and that pretty much proves how straightforward it was. But for me it wasn't a puzzle game. A heart-warming adventure is the best way I can describe it. The level design was superb, possibly the best I've ever seen in any game. Too short and too easy, these are the biggest flaws I could come up with.
SotC was a whole different beast. Took me nearly 10 hours to get to the end because it wasn't as obvious as ICO with it's "puzzles". I was really surprised that
. Wandering the lands and searching for the Colossi was somehow calming. Finding their weaknesses proved to be a real challenge sometimes. It's really hard to find something bad to say from this one. A beautiful experience.
SotC was a whole different beast. Took me nearly 10 hours to get to the end because it wasn't as obvious as ICO with it's "puzzles". I was really surprised that
there were no enemies besides the Colossi
I just want to clarify one thing. The slight difference in Wander's grip stability in this version (probably a side-effect of the higher framerate) does not make the game significantly harder or unfair. If anything, it makes it slightly more realistic.
It is noticeable of some colossi more than others. Even though some vitals seem like they give you no time to stab, they actually do. In this version (because it was ported from the PAL version), trying to stab too early actually penalizes you by making Wander slip. Once you figure out when to stab and wait for that opportune moment, you're good to go.
I just wanted to post something about this from my phone because people were starting to blow things out of proportion. I beat every HTA except for #3 and #15 in one try easily. Those other two took me about five tries each. That's far from unfair.
It is noticeable of some colossi more than others. Even though some vitals seem like they give you no time to stab, they actually do. In this version (because it was ported from the PAL version), trying to stab too early actually penalizes you by making Wander slip. Once you figure out when to stab and wait for that opportune moment, you're good to go.
I just wanted to post something about this from my phone because people were starting to blow things out of proportion. I beat every HTA except for #3 and #15 in one try easily. Those other two took me about five tries each. That's far from unfair.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Question: Did you beat 14 the intended way or did you use the exploit? Every time I've tried the exploit, Wander would fall so I had a feeling it has been fixed but maybe I just suck at it...ScOULaris said:
SentientStone
Member
I honestly had no problem with the new physics; in fact, if I never read it here I probably would not have known it was any different from the NTSC PS2 version. The game was actually much less challenging to me and I rarely got knocked off of the colossi. I think I got knocked off a lot only for the final colossus and a bit for #15 (mostly because I forgot about where hidden weakspot was).
Then again, I did use the jump stab technique for some of them so there wasn't as much need for me to hold on while I charged the stab.
Then again, I did use the jump stab technique for some of them so there wasn't as much need for me to hold on while I charged the stab.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I do know that colossus 6 is very noticable in the constant shake department.... on his left side (our right).
From his beard thing, I kept going to the right and I'd constantly run out of grip and hardly ever had a chance to move. Left side was no problem though. Weird. Try it out.
DarknessTear
Banned
I beat the game in 5 hours. I love this game so much, and Colossus #5 will probably always be my favorite. One of the few games that I can outright say is a masterpiece and one of the best games ever made.