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[mortal]

I don't know whether to be angry, sad, or just laugh at such blatant double standards.

Taking your kid to see a very much not for kids movie....okay.

 

[Raven117]

Member when liberals defended controversial movies like The Last Temptation of Christ and Natural Born killers?

I member.

They have simply been around long enough to become the villain. (yes, I edited the quote).

 

[Unknown Quantity]

The new Batman spin-off understands perfectly the frustration and helplessness caused by involuntary mental health conditions – but refuses to milk them for tragedy.

I knew Joker was a film whose relationship to society today is a rich – and sometimes fraught – one. But until I saw it, I hadn’t realised just how pertinent a film it would be. Set in dystopian Gotham of the 1980s, it’s a world where the vulnerable of society, such as single mothers, the elderly and people with mental health issues are crammed into crumbling housing projects, while super-affluent bankers live it large. The villains in Joker are the filthy rich, such as the bullying, Trump-like Thomas Wayne who blames the poor for their own poverty as he campaigns to become mayor.

This is first-person cinema told from the point of view of someone with mental health issues. The character of Arthur Fleck is an authentic and well-researched depiction of a man with borderline personality disorder. At times, it felt less like watching a superhero movie and more like a social drama depicting a real-life horror story of austerity.

Played with corporeal commitment by Joaquin Phoenix, Arthur has a neurological condition called Pseudobulbar Affect, most straightforwardly explained as spontaneous and uncontrollable laughter at inappropriate moments. The scene where Arthur is confronted by a woman on a bus who becomes irritated by his laughter is a situation that will be all too familiar to anyone who has experienced firsthand the frustration, misunderstanding and sense of helplessness involuntary mental health conditions can cause. It’s not Arthur who has the problem, though – it’s an uncaring and misunderstanding society and that’s what this scene brilliantly conveys. Joker puts us in the shoes of the Other, a disabled man oppressed by the able-bodied.

Rest of article (good read)

Joker makes great disability art by letting its hero bite back

The new Batman spin-off understands perfectly the frustration and helplessness caused by involuntary mental health conditions – but refuses to milk them for tragedy

www.google.com

The joker is anti establishment, the ridiculed had enough and rose up and are seen by the establishment as the bad guys and their leader a super villain.

I can kinda see why this kind of nonsense is dredged up about this movie by some. I really don't care for it. I will watch this movie and thoroughly enjoy it like most joaquin films.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

The new Batman spin-off understands perfectly the frustration and helplessness caused by involuntary mental health conditions – but refuses to milk them for tragedy.


Rest of article (good read)

Joker makes great disability art by letting its hero bite back

The new Batman spin-off understands perfectly the frustration and helplessness caused by involuntary mental health conditions – but refuses to milk them for tragedy

www.google.com

The joker is anti establishment, the ridiculed had enough and rose up and are seen by the establishment as the bad guys and their leader a super villain.

I can kinda see why this kind of nonsense is dredged up about this movie by some. I really don't care for it. I will watch this movie and thoroughly enjoy it like most joaquin films.

This film sounds exceptional.

 

[MMaRsu]

Taking your kid to see a very much not for kids movie....okay.

Do you not get the joke?

They are not taking their kids to see The Joker

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

*abruptly stops cleaning his gun barrel*

"Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. What did they say again?"

 

[triplestation]

Taking your kid to see a very much not for kids movie....okay.

that kid gonna cry and piss off the whole theater finna be about 250 jokers in that damn theater

 

[EverydayBeast]

The reality is overcoming Ledger's Joker, top 3 villain of all time (Venom, Magneto etc.) this Joker could have a threat to Ledger's Joker.

 

[MayauMiao]

Warner Bros. gives the finger to triggered journos from the red carpet event. This is very good news.

‘Joker’ Premiere Disinvites Interview Press From Hollywood, New York Red Carpets

Warner Bros. has announced that the red carpet for the film's L.A. premiere will not include any press interviews.

variety.com

 

[triplestation]

motherfuckers thirsty for that joker buzz controversy, fuck out of here lmao

 

[quickwhips]

Everyone is overhyping this movie and will be disappointed.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Can't buy this kind of publicity. Bunch of morons.

I want to see this now.

Got em!

 

[Tesseract]

the derp rises

 

[brap]

WB suddenly gangster as fuck

They always were

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

Gee Tom, well, shucks. I guess we'll never know. It's a complete mystery. Weird huh?

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Got em!

I don't get it.

 

[lifa-cobex]

‘He is a psychopath’: has the 2019 Joker gone too far?

Todd Phillips’s take has been mired in controversy, but it’s not the first time the character has reflected society

www.theguardian.com

Is film the second coming of Christ?

I really wasn't too fazed about watching it. Kinda thing I would wait to watch at home.

Now i'm getting the impression this film is going to stare into my soul and jack me off at the same time.

 

[Revolutionary]

Kojima wrote a quote for the film.


According to Twitter it roughly translates to:

Does this mean Kojima is alt-right? /s

 

[Birdo]

Does this mean Kojima is alt-right? /s

Alt-Right, Incel, MRA, Basement Dweller, Neckbeard, Anti-SJW, Nazi. The lot.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Gotta love the lefty media. One day "videgames and movies dont cause violence" but wait! This one might! Idiots.

 

[interactivemonodrama]

Joker was always a mass murdering psycho, so I don't really understand all the controversy surrounding his origin movie.

 

[Teletraan1]

I don't know whether to be angry, sad, or just laugh at such blatant double standards.

Maybe she should get the kids father to take them instead.

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is all psyops.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

This is all psyops.

Very underrated game.

 

[Foamy]

Joker was always a mass murdering psycho, so I don't really understand all the controversy surrounding his origin movie.

They're scared some fringe gun owners are going to be inspired to identify with him, say "ya know what, fuck it all" and let loose with an assault rifle.
That's the price you pay for living in a country with more guns than citizens.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

It is amusing because where John Wick is glorifying the violence this film will clearly be about how ugly the violence is, it's a drama after all, not an action movie. Why would something trying to disgust/horrify you be more inspiration than something that's like "fuck yeah, I shot 12 dudes!"

 

[A.Romero]

I'm not American (or live in the first world for that matter) so I'm not familiar with fearing getting shot at the movies but I'd think war propaganda movies have been more harmful that something like this. How many kids enlist thinking they'll become Eric Bana in Black Hawk Down only to do gruesome shit and return home with PTSD.

That said I'm not against any type of movie. I'm, however, against any idiot that thinks they can chose what I should watch.

 

[Ailynn]

 

[Grinchy]

Very underrated game.

Yeah, back when physics in a videogame were still new. Hell, it probably had better physics than a lot of today's games.

 

[ccrruuxx]

Found the one person in this thread speaking some sense!

 

[andreymagnus]

I am surprised how WB deals with "Joker" at all. After a lot of flops, I was surprised to hear about Joaquin Phoenix as Joker. Such a great actor! But I could have not ever though that Todd Philips can correctly direct that movie. After Venice film festival and all the reviews from top critics movie seems like a perfect Joker story. So all the controversy around tragedy with TDKR which can potentially (as these people say) happen with "Joker" is just hilarious. You can be shot anytime anywhere in the world. Why do people even think, that it can happen again with people watching "Joker" in a theater. I am sorry about the loss of people whose relatives were killed during TDKR premiere, but you just can't compare it to this movie.

 

[sol_bad]

Hey fam.

Lets not get our knickers in a knot. The movie is still rating well, 77% on rottentomatoes and 70 on metacritic. Who cares what the vocal minority of media are saying.
SURE, it's not rating as well as the MCU films, Deadpool films, Dark Knight films or Logan, but it's still pretty high.
About 24 hours until I see this bad boy in IMAX, I hope it's good.

 

[Constant Flux]

I wasn’t really hyped to see this movie, but the controversy surrounding it has me interested now. I’ll wait for the digital release, though. I’d hate to get shot in the face at the movie theater!

 

[brap]

If the critics hate it it has to be good.

 

[Northeastmonk]

Warner Bros. gives the finger to triggered journos from the red carpet event. This is very good news.

‘Joker’ Premiere Disinvites Interview Press From Hollywood, New York Red Carpets

Warner Bros. has announced that the red carpet for the film's L.A. premiere will not include any press interviews.

variety.com

Director Todd Phillips also spoke to Vanity Fair about the film's dark tone and violence.

"We're making a movie about a fictional character in a fictional world, ultimately, and your hope is that people take it for what it is," Phillips said. "You can't blame movies for a world that is so f—ed up that anything can trigger it. That's kind of what the movie is about. It's not a call to action. If anything it's a call to self-reflection to society

Joaquin Phoenix Defends 'Joker' as Examination of 'Malevolent Person'

Living in a triggered society (literally triggered) by anything and everything is more of a problem than any form of entertainment.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Hey fam.

Lets not get our knickers in a knot. The movie is still rating well, 77% on rottentomatoes and 70 on metacritic. Who cares what the vocal minority of media are saying.
SURE, it's not rating as well as the MCU films, Deadpool films, Dark Knight films or Logan, but it's still pretty high.
About 24 hours until I see this bad boy in IMAX, I hope it's good.

It's actually doing as well as MCU if you go by average rating. The trouble is it's suffering something no other comic book movie does... the reviews are either perfect 10s or as low as 1/10. It's polarizing with critics in a way it might not be with audiences because critics are judging it through a political lens. Marvel movies tend to get 7s and 8s, few 10s, based strictly on number of perfect scores its getting you can tell we may have a masterpiece. It's worth nothing films like Blade Runner and The Thing were trashed at the time, it's also worth noting Taxi Driver had a mixed reception on release due to a similar moral panic which included reputed critics like Leonard Maltin finding the film reprehensible. This movie is true cinema and true cinema can't please everyone.

 

[SLUG_____]

Mass media putting the idea out into the ether and harping on it over and over is similar in concept to the copycat effect you see in modern crime. That's essentially what happens when copycats go out and do a crime they just saw wall to wall media coverage of, and they have the kind of maladaptive disposition where they seek notoriety. In this case they're doing the media coverage before a crime has been committed but the effect could be the same. Media has been warned for decades about this kind of reporting but they just keep doing it. I remember a time when words like incel lived and died in online message boards, but now mass media will take something like this, turn it into a buzzword, and signal boost it to millions and millions of people. The way the media operates is increasingly downright irresponsible but usually there's a lot more on the line in terms of political gain. This one is just psychotic levels of irresponsible. I guess we've come full circle, the media going Joker mode on the Joker movie.

 

[Kadayi]

Shouldn't the press be more worried about shooters at concerts after that nutbar shot up that venue in Vegas? I mean if we're going to start trading in absurd fear that dude killed a tonne more people versus the asshole at the Batman film. What a ridiculous narrative they are spinning.

 

[brap]

Shouldn't the press be more worried about shooters ar concerts after that nutbar shot up that venue in Vegas? I mean if we're going to start trading in absurd fear that dude killed a tonne more people versus the asshole at the Batman film. What a ridiculous narrative they are spinning.

B-but the incels...

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

B-but the incels...

How do you feel about reddit banning the incel subreddits but kept up all the man hating ones fellow incel?

 

[brap]

How do you feel about reddit banning the incel subreddits but kept up all the man hating ones fellow incel?

>plebbit does some retarded bullshit
>im supposed to care and/or be surprised

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

>plebbit does some retarded bullshit
>im supposed to care and/or be surprised

well since pepe and wojak started on facebook/some gay comic I assumed so!

 

[brap]

well since pepe and wojak started on facebook/some gay comic I assumed so!

This doesn't describe me at all honestly. And they started on 4chan you newfriend.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

This doesn't describe me at all honestly. And they started on 4chan you newfriend.

Hide your powerlevel. Nobody really used it until reddit made it popular. It came from a dead board.

 

[Vicetrailia]

It sounds like manufactured controversy to increase sales.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

It sounds like manufactured controversy to increase sales.

What level of influence do you think WB has, exactly?

U.S. Military Issues Warning to Troops About Incel Violence at Joker Screenings [Updated]

The U.S. military has warned service members about the potential for a mass shooter at screenings of the Warner Bros. film Joker, which has sparked wide concerns from, among others, the families of those killed during the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, Colorado.

io9.gizmodo.com

 

[sol_bad]

I totally thought this movie was out here today but it's not until tomorrow.
What a disappointment.
bleh

 

[Whitesnake]

It sounds like manufactured controversy to increase sales.

It's possible it was originally a marketing stunt, but the journalists wishing for a shooting to happen so they can use it as a soapbox is very much real.

 

[lifa-cobex]

 

[Explosive Zombie]

It's possible it was originally a marketing stunt, but the journalists wishing for a shooting to happen so they can use it as a soapbox is very much real.

No, it started because critics who saw it early at Cannes said it would inspire some violent act. I'm sure WB had nothing to do with encouraging critics to say BS like that so I can't imagine anyone seeing this as a marketing stunt. Not to mention it feels like they're saying "Joker, the perfect movie to shoot up"