Dreamgazer
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What exactly did you overreact to?
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The Last Guardian E3 demo impressions
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What exactly did you overreact to?
humansarehorses
Member
I can understand camera frustrations and framerate issues but Eurogamer's climbing comment made me laugh. Uncharted' s climbing is so automated and restrictive. Imagine if you could only climb up pre-set routes on Colossi and it took no effort to get to designated spots on giant moving creatures. What a boring game that would be.
CharminUltra
Member
Please be good. Been waiting for this game since 2009 (well, I've been waiting for the sequel to SotC since 2006.)
That seems like a huge number even with Studio Japan helping Ueda and Gen Design out.
3rdamention
Member
Jeremy Parish wrote an article on USGamer.
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/wit...-worldview-remains-unique-after-all-this-time
http://www.usgamer.net/articles/wit...-worldview-remains-unique-after-all-this-time
I only read the Eurogamer preview, which is pretty heavy on technical issues.
RPGCrazied
Member
japan studio is comprised of more then team ico. they're not all working on last guardian..lol.
They are also working on Gravity Rush 2 so I doubt the entire Japan Studio is working on TLG.
RPGCrazied
Member
Mkay, they could get some of those people to help if they wanted I'm sure.
I'm fine with a few tech issues, long as there is no tearing. I can deal with 30fps.
Nappuccino
Member
Shadow of the Collossus, which everyone here has brought up in reference to the technical issues, was weirdly aided by the dipping framerate. I have the remaster, but the game seems to lack the same sense of majesty because the collossi no longer lumber in quite the same way. Maybe it sounds silly, but as much as I'm glad the remaster exists, I'm always tempted to break out my PS2 and play the game with its original flaws.
Long story short, the technical flaws don't necessarily hinder enjoyment.
Hopefully I don't seem like just an apologist.
Kenshin001
Member
I don't think that is a confirmed fact, more an assumption. I seriously doubt it is the case that all 400 are slaving away at the game. Does make me wonder what they've been doing all this time, like why wasn't a portion of that team assigned to iron out technical problems a long time ago instead of a few months before release.
Don't think that's true. The entirety of Studio Japan is around 400, but they work on a ton of different projects.
lukeskymac
Member
On this final stretch they are. They did before for Knack or Puppeteer, I think.
No, Japan Studio is about 400 people, the guy making the preview was prob refering to that, and there is no way the whole studio will work on this project
Especially since you can already discount a good portion of them since they'll be on Gravity Rush 2.
I have a feeling that performance issues will drop the score below 90 MC
what a shame, but then again I only played the remastered version of SotC and Ico and they were outdated mechanically and nothing was special about the controls and they were still some of the best games I have ever played in my life.
what a shame, but then again I only played the remastered version of SotC and Ico and they were outdated mechanically and nothing was special about the controls and they were still some of the best games I have ever played in my life.
This game has not been in active development all these years. The project has been on hold to get out other Japan studio games not to mention all those years they had to wait for ps4 hardware and then actually porting the engine to ps4. The amount of people actually on the game has been extremely small over the years that's why the budget has not bloated to extreme levels that everyone thinks it has.
Sounds like the experience delivers. Will be a pity if even with PS4 under the bonnet vs PS3 it still struggles but TBH after ICO and SOTC this is one game I'm not concerned with technically: the game simply isn't about an experience that requires technical perfection from what I can see.
ICO and SOTC were all about the experience, the tone and the style. Obviously it's preferable its technically sound by damn they're so pushing the envelope with Trico IMHO. Really trying to create a complex creature you react to and emotionally relate to.
All these previews seem won over by that aspect and even with a small play were emotionally bonding to and linking with Trico.
Across the entire game? I'm expecting the experience to deliver with that amount of time to balance out hitches with emotional bonding.
Clearly though, as with ICO and SOTC, if you're not interested in investing in an almost poetic, slow burn experience that's big on investment and light on tight and complex gameplay mechanics this probably isn't for you.
ICO and SOTC were all about the experience, the tone and the style. Obviously it's preferable its technically sound by damn they're so pushing the envelope with Trico IMHO. Really trying to create a complex creature you react to and emotionally relate to.
All these previews seem won over by that aspect and even with a small play were emotionally bonding to and linking with Trico.
Across the entire game? I'm expecting the experience to deliver with that amount of time to balance out hitches with emotional bonding.
Clearly though, as with ICO and SOTC, if you're not interested in investing in an almost poetic, slow burn experience that's big on investment and light on tight and complex gameplay mechanics this probably isn't for you.
I'm willing to overlook some technical flaws if the whole game is great and that was SotC for me. Some slow down here or there and some weird graphical glitches did nothing to stop me from enjoying the gameplay, the story, the world and so on. Its the whole package for me that's important.
Darth Smurf X
Member
I guess I'm not worried. The previews are hitting all the right notes for me and technical issues can be fixed before and after October.
I'd love for this game to be wonderfully polished by its October release (so reviews/sales aren't impacted), but based on how much I adored ICO & Shadow I know I'm going to buy it / play it anyway - and if I have to wait a bit longer for the first few patches to clean up the last few bits, so be it.
That said, for the sake of themselves and everyone else I hope they nail it out the gate.
That said, for the sake of themselves and everyone else I hope they nail it out the gate.
schaft0620
Member
Not really a good precedent for games that take ten years to make.
Nvm, seems it's a guess?
Its not been in development for 10 years, stop with the misinformation. They couldn't even get the game running on the PS3, it didn't have the horsepower to do their vision any justice so they shelved the game for years. The fan interest was still huge in the enthusiast community so when the PS4 rolled around development was restarted on the much stronger hardware and that is where we are today. I'm guessing the game has been in development for about 3 years.
Acquiescence
Member
Thanks, I added it to the OP.
I'd be shocked if it's that long. Half that long and I'll be happy.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Just hope Sony's not booting this out the door when it's so close to finished. I'd personally be totally fine with a 2017 delay, but I know there's no way Shu will allow that to happen.
Oh well - just be great to hang with Trico.
Oh well - just be great to hang with Trico.
JoJoShabadoo
Member
There's not a doubt in my mind that this could be one of the greatest games ever made yet, if it was as polished, beautiful, and fluid as high-end games. But that's not going to happen, nor do I think anyone should expect it at this point. Team ICO is not known for this with their other two titles, and we're four months away from release.
I don't say this as something negative though. You have to take each game for what it is. To me part of the charm will be reliving some of the technical limitations that I was so used to ever since 3D gaming was introduced. I've been playing since the NES, it feels entitled to expect every game to be groundbreaking in graphics and controls.
And this isn't fanboy-ism, I only beat ICO and SOTC once back in the day. If there's heart & soul, which pretty much every reviewer so far says is there, I'll play the game.
I don't say this as something negative though. You have to take each game for what it is. To me part of the charm will be reliving some of the technical limitations that I was so used to ever since 3D gaming was introduced. I've been playing since the NES, it feels entitled to expect every game to be groundbreaking in graphics and controls.
And this isn't fanboy-ism, I only beat ICO and SOTC once back in the day. If there's heart & soul, which pretty much every reviewer so far says is there, I'll play the game.
metsallica
Member
I'll take it. Thank you!
Spiral Insanity
Banned
Pre-ordered yesterday, can't wait! I will make up my own mind.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
True hope it doesn't get marked down for the technical niggles that are undoubtably going to be in the final release.
I think out of any game, this one we should definitely not focus on the technical aspects over the story and gameplay.
I need this game.
We should remember this. As much as we love our stable performance, SotC ran like it was pieced together by scotch tape and bubblegum, creaking along and buckling under the ambition of its design and whipping the poor system into a tizzy as great, epic moments constantly, and consistently, were reduced to lovely slideshows.
... And it's still one of the best games on the system, technical performance and flaws included.
bananafactory
Banned
Great impressions. The technical issues are a tad disappointing but not unexpected, the teams other games had similar problems but it never hampered my enjoyment with them.
It sounds like the emotional hooks are working for most people, which I think is ultimately what will make or break this game.
Can not wait to play it myself. So close now!
It sounds like the emotional hooks are working for most people, which I think is ultimately what will make or break this game.
Can not wait to play it myself. So close now!
OuterLimits
Member
Hopefully the controls get fixed. I can deal with some issues, but terrible/unresponsive controls(and bad camera) may drive me crazy. Hitting the jump button and he jumps 10 feet in the air type stuff has me worried.
brandonh83
Banned
Shadow of the Colossus ran at a negative frame rate and is one of the best experiences I've ever had with a game. Chalk me up as not really concerned at all. Yeah, bad frame rates are a bummer but so many other elements can come together to make something work.
Hydrargyrus
Member
I'm not going to play it because its technical aspects, are important, but I could play this game with PS2 graphics without problem.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Junior member
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
"Ahhh I'm out!"
"I'm out dude."
LOL
Me rn. Trading on thin ice here but I want to hear more so here we goooo
"I'm out dude."
LOL
Me rn. Trading on thin ice here but I want to hear more so here we goooo
Digital-Hero
Member
Exactly and the remaster cemented what I thought was already one of the greatest game experiences I've had since Super Mario 64.
Danis Saur
Member
We're still in June, plenty of time to continue to fix technical stuff.
Also, I remember Ico and SOTC being gonky but still good in control and movement.
The only thing I worry about is the time of the game. But I won't worry about the time (let it be 10 hours) if it is another amazing experience as Ico and SOTC.
Also, I remember Ico and SOTC being gonky but still good in control and movement.
The only thing I worry about is the time of the game. But I won't worry about the time (let it be 10 hours) if it is another amazing experience as Ico and SOTC.
Jawbreaker
Member
Sounds wonderful. I'm glad the only issues are technical since those can be ironed out still.