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The Last of Us 2 Releasing On February 21st, 2020 | New Trailer
brap
Banned
Nah. It's just some dumb angsty teen girl bullshit that grown men are getting excited about. I shouldn't be surprised. Grown adults watch cartoons made for 5 year olds too these days.
Btw does anybody know when the next episode of Degrassi is on? I figured I'd ask here since you guys seem to be into that.
Yoboman
Member
Has any game really nailed a good melee system that is also realistic? No magic or larger than life weapons. Maybe MGS5 arguably but that’s mainly there to make you feel badass rather than make for a competitive melee systemSeems you understand it pretty well already, there is something as making things too complicated, more is not always better.
And dude, i LOVE games like DMCV but at some point, the devs have to make a decision about how the game is played and priorities, you can't just throw everything and the kitchen sink and expect it to just work. You don't just aim every gun in DMCV, that would be "too complicated" and the gameplay would not flow as elegant as it does now.
IMHO combos would not add much here for example, they used to be in Uncharted 1 at some level too. The games is very focused in survival so utility is what the combat should be focused on and not "Style", contextual moves serve this purpose very well while having "Style" as a by product. As a player you are only tasked to worry about the "oportunity" When you see an enemy close to a wall you know the oportunity is there to bash his head against it. In Uncharted 4 when you see an enemy below you, you know you are going for the take down, etc.
I think it is a good compromise.
There is no overly "automated" mechanics, is just the melee combat having some compromises to make the whole package work fluently. I have no doubts that there are middle grounds to be achieved, but it's never just about adding everything to it. As thanos would say...
God of War isn’t realistic but it can feel pretty damn good when you go bare fist
brap
Banned
It's teen angst shit like Hunger Games and Harry Potter. I don't like it because I'm not a teenager anymore. I have 0 attraction to it.
Keihart
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So... why not look away from it and not engage in topics on it anymore?
brap
Banned
This game is edgier than anything I could ever say.Watch out there, i cut my finger while scrolling to read your comment
I had to watch the trailer yesterday to see if I wanted to play it or not. I don't. Doesn't stop people from quoting me either.
Keihart
Member
If i were you i wouldn't be so sure, maybe you lack self awareness.
Psykodad
Banned
Insecurity much?
I wouldn't claim being an adult if you get this worked up over Ellie and TLOU2.
Besides, maybe it's because I was already a dad when I played TLOU, but seeing Ellie in TLOU2 is kinda like watching a 'daughter' grown up and I'm excited to see how she's doing.
(Btw if I would have a daughter irl, I'd hope she'd be gay. Less things to worry about)
Guardian's Light
Member
how they changed with time
men dont get older , they just become smarter
Am I the only who consider TLoU2 Joel to be 100% identical to Nathan? Lol
They both get better, I love them ❤ and I missed them
Guardian's Light
Member
vs Joel
They are easily on the same playing field visually. Of course, the animation is/will be more nuanced in TLOU2... but remember one of these games is claimed as so visually realistic and amazing... and the other features bulky disproportionately sized marines....
It doesn't matter how good another game graphics are, no one will ever top ND faces and expressions imo
CyberPanda
Banned
Dr Kaneda
Member
I guess it depends on what a person views as "overly complex" really. I agree with you that things like combos would be awful in TLoU but that's not what I'm calling for really.
I don't think a dedicated dodge function (which they seem to have added now), blocks, variation in attacks through user input, some kind of timing based risk-reward attack system etc.. would be overly complex or out of place in TLoU. Fact of the matter it's not classic survival horror akin to Resident Evil anyway, it's already got far too many systems for that. So why not go the extra mile and improve on those systems? They kinda already answered that question, they don't believe players want/enjoy/are capable of the additional "complexity". I think that's a shame and simply not true, stuff like Spiderman and GOW sold a buttload and they have these types of variations and I think in a superior game like TLoU they would work even better. But they've landed on a massively successful formula so I doubt they're going to change that now. But I hope they do.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Keihart
Member
I think A block and a dodge would be very good additions too and probably add a lot to the style of gameplay, at least we are getting the dodge. It is tricky to know where to expand and where to constraint, the mechanics in the first part were so well balanced that in MP they didn't have to axe much of it. Keep in mind tho that while some people enjoy the possibility of long inconvenient melee encounters in a game like this, other people despise it. I enjoy it tbh, i like the final boss of U4 for example.
G-Bus
Banned
Interested to hear the previews tomorrow. Game looks fucking brutal. If stabbing people in the face is "angsty teen shit" I'm all in. What a weird take anyway.
Wasn't ever a huge fan of the game and still haven't beat the first. Funny how that trailer is making me want to try and get back into it.
Now sure if I'll jump in at launch or just wait for the inevitable ps5 remaster.
Wasn't ever a huge fan of the game and still haven't beat the first. Funny how that trailer is making me want to try and get back into it.
Now sure if I'll jump in at launch or just wait for the inevitable ps5 remaster.
FranXico
Member
Very different art directions. Why are people even trying to compare them directly in the first place?
They both look amazing considering what they are going for.
But "it doesn't matter"? Come on.
Guardian's Light
Member
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
So what do you care people excited about this game? Are gonna insult anyone who is gonna enjoy the game? If don't like this game I suggest you to move one and play the game you do enjoy.
Vtecomega
Banned
You are aware of who Neil Druckman is right?
Mochilador
Member
Joel is looking hot, like an older Nathan Drake.
Mass Shift
Member
That's a good thing for this franchise.
Its allways better from them then youtube bad compression.
alabtrosMyster
Member
While I disagree with his assessment, I also don't like circle jerk... so let him say what is on his mind, he has not insulted anyone who doesn't work at ND.
Ellie is not a teen in this game, but she looks angry.
EDIT: I found out she is 19 at the time of TLoU 2, still... I don't think you should brush such a large stroke.
I wonder if Joel showing up will be good or bad news, my preference would have been to keep playing as him.
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Fake
Gold Member
Youtube compression always fuck up.
Aggelos
Member
It ain't Sony's fault - it's youtube's compression.
So gamersyde FTW as you said.
Sony unveiled a new trailer for The Last of Us Part II during the State of Play. You can watch it now in 4K.
Sony unveiled a new trailer for The Last of Us Part II during the State of Play. You can watch it now in 4K.
www.gamersyde.com
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I love to speculate.
When I first saw this trailer, I thought Ellie was he one holding he gun, but it's Dina.
I think Ellie will be unconscious and that's when you will take control of Dina to find help, but that's when she gets captured.
I think you will play as at least 4 characters in this game.
Thought this scene looked a bit weird when I first saw it, but now I can see that this i from a first person perspective.
Which character you're controlling, you're hanging while you're looking at that man getting tortured.
In the first gameplay trailer, I thought Ellie was just able to just crawl under objects, but it's clear you can do it anytime you want. I don't know why I didn't notice that before.
The infected can now crawl on the ground and I wonder if it's like RE2 where you can shoot off certain body parts.
Can't wait until tomorrow morning to see more gamplay footage.
When I first saw this trailer, I thought Ellie was he one holding he gun, but it's Dina.
I think Ellie will be unconscious and that's when you will take control of Dina to find help, but that's when she gets captured.
I think you will play as at least 4 characters in this game.
Thought this scene looked a bit weird when I first saw it, but now I can see that this i from a first person perspective.
Which character you're controlling, you're hanging while you're looking at that man getting tortured.
In the first gameplay trailer, I thought Ellie was just able to just crawl under objects, but it's clear you can do it anytime you want. I don't know why I didn't notice that before.
The infected can now crawl on the ground and I wonder if it's like RE2 where you can shoot off certain body parts.
Can't wait until tomorrow morning to see more gamplay footage.
Mass Shift
Member
Well the trailer definitely seems to indicate that this game is about Ellie's evolution as a young woman so I think we'll most certainly have some Joel moments, but playing him isn't likely to figure as largely in the story as Ellie's role.
Geki-D
Banned
Is this video for real or is it a parody? It's literally just describing what we've seen in the trailers. The videos title about "leaked info" is an utter lie.
Handy Fake
Member
alabtrosMyster
Member
I know, but playing Joel is what I would have preferred.
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Nero_PR
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The first thing people will compare is horse testicles.
Aggelos
Member
Have you heard about "click-bait"? That's what it is. People wanna make some dough, and you hafta increase your views/clicks for that to happen.
So? What you can do is creating "click-bait" videos.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
So no gay people in video games should be created? Is that where you are?
MaximusPayne
Member
This trailer looked very underwhelming compared to the initial gameplay trailer.
Aggelos
Member
It was probably only an appetizer/teaser before the embargo lifts today.
I suppose there'll be more.
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Kabelly
Member
Also, friendly reminder to add gyroscopic aim to this game. I've been playing Days Gone since the update and man oh man it's it just fun to snipe with the controller. They just need to fix the sensitivity a bit more and it'll be perfect (but tbh I dont know if it's because I'm underleveled). I'm tired of playing shooters with aim assist.
Nero_PR
Banned
What changed about Days Gone aim system? It's been a long time I played (just the first month). I've been wanting to play on the hardest mode for awhile.
RyanEvans21
Member
45 mins
hunthunt
Banned
Thats fantastic, cant wait to see more.
Kabelly
Member
You can use the already built in motion control sensor to aim your reticle now. It's only 1 of 2 games on PS4 that have finally utilized the feature. I turned aim assist all the way down and use the gyro to aim. Still use the sticks of course but sniping has never felt better.
I'm hoping since Bend and Naughty Dog are close (Bend did uncharted vita for them which also included gyro aim) they just give them the heads up.
One thing I will say though is I do wish the sensitivy was a bit stronger but it's still better than pure stick aiming.
edit: also I just got the game a few days ago and am playing on hard it's not so bad.
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