sendit
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No mans sky
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The Last of Us Part II Director doesn't understand relaunching critiscism.
tmlDan
Member
Again, another example of an unfinished or broken product like CP 2077. They are free because they failed consumers and had an insurmountable amount of hate. (Plus they're indie and have like 8 team members)
His new game would be a disaster if they didn't do what they did.
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Calverz
Member
It’s not remastered though. So technically, it’s false advertising. It’s just dlc.
saintjules
Gold Member
DAHGAMING
Gold Member
I dont mind, nobody is forced to buy it, if your happy with the PS4 version stick with that. Some will say the upgrades dont warrent a cost and should be free but nobody works for free, and if you are other than for a good cause then your a mug. Im no PC dick waver, but if you want to play a game on better settings when you have better hardware for free, then PC is the way to go for you.
sendit
Member
God of war Ragnarok Valhalla
hinch7
Member
Only because publishers charge you for them. Prior HFW got a free update before they started charging for them. Bethesda games on PC get free upgrades/visual overhauls, same for Valve titles. Recent CDPR games too. Witcher III got a free update from PS4/XBO to PS5/XSX.
Charging for DLC is understandable though. And a proper visual overhaul with new/updated assets.
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tmlDan
Member
so did LoU2, it got a 60 fps patch for ps5
TacoSavage
Member
“i paid $60 for this game 4 years ago, i expect any and all future updates to be free” 
bring lunch from home to work once this week and there’s your “cash” grab upgrade fee
bring lunch from home to work once this week and there’s your “cash” grab upgrade fee
TLOU2 got a free PS4 to PS5 performance patch already.
tmlDan
Member
Cool you have one example of actual good will, why does every studio have to do it? This offers more content btw
sendit
Member
Mafia 3
tmlDan
Member
Which was also a disaster at launch
sendit
Member
Splatoon
tmlDan
Member
Yep, an online game got updates. You gonna list every game in existence? im right in saying it rarely ever happens.
sendit
Member
I wipe my ass with ten dollars. However, I believe you missed the point completely.
sendit
Member
Titanfall 2
Keep moving the goal post to fit your narrative. I’m sure you’ll do this is in your next post.
Mr Moose
Member
What?
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
tmlDan
Member
Titanfall 2? LOL
This? LOL
It added game modes/balancing changes and such but that is not as big as this update
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TacoSavage
Member
So you feel entitled to this for free? Or is in “the principle”
You’re probably one of those that buys 10$ outfits or $5 emotes and complains that this is a cash grab.
sendit
Member
Incorrect. You keep missing the point for some reason.So you feel entitled to this for free? Or is in “the principle”
You’re probably one of those that buys 10$ outfits or $5 emotes and complains that this is a cash grab.
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TacoSavage
Member
Please enlighted me.. go
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
No you're right, but TLOU Remastered didn't have a PS3 Pro & PS3 backwards Compatible PS4 that ran the game at 60fps and at higher resolution
That's the difference.
And even if it did, the difference would still be noticeable because they did change stuff and improved them in TLOU Remastered.
And the TLOU Remastered launched while TLOU was still got product still selling millions.
TLOU2 isn't in the same situation.
And with how similar the two ports are you might as well wait till TLOU2 Remake running on TLOU3 engine on PS6.
Hugare
Member
So now you have even more options to play the game at a better state than you had with TLOU on PS3: PS5 60 FPS free patch or paying the $10 upgrade vs paying $50 and having no free patch back then
I'm still not understanding how you are trying to paint this as a problem. It's a much better offer than we had back then.
They really didnt, man. TLOU Remastered upgraded the resolution to 1080p at launch (1800p when the pro launched), upgraded the models, shadows and the framerate. Nothing else was touched.
Part II remastered not only did all that but also is giving us new modes (No Return + Guitar playing) and Dualsense support. At $10.
Are there any receipts? Part II had sold more than 10M as of 2022, 2 years after release and before the TV show
And if you wanna wait until the Remake on PS6, you can play it free of charge on your PS5 at 60 FPS.
Something that you wouldnt be able to with the original on your PS4
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That was a cross gen game so it doesn't fall under this. Now if they would've released it just for PS5 and for free I could see that being used a precedent.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
GAAS bug got em! Also blame Jim Ryan for that.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
As I said, it's got that working against it.
Having the options is the problem that TLOU Remastered didn't have.
Look it don't really bother me that they're "Remastering" it.
To me it's a fancy marketing term for a Port which they done since the dawn of time.
But it is just a straight port and isn't using the PS5 power whatsoever, neither did PT1.
TLOU PT1 is literally what they could have done on PS4 is they wanted to instead of the Remaster.
Just like they could of done more with this, if they wanted to.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I'm still thinking about how ridiculous they called TLOU part 1 as ''Remake''.
sendit
Member
Yep, current naughty dog is pretty out of touch with reality. With their current releases, they’re levels below Sonys own remake/remaster studio Bluepoint.
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Hugare
Member
What's the difference between TLOU Part 1 and the Demon Souls remake?
Killjoy-NL
Banned
People like you aren't the yarget audience.
He made that very clear.
Negotiator101
Member
It's not identical but I know what you're saying. this is a lazy remaster full stop.
BlackTron
Member
Excuse me, but the visual upgrade is the same as the TLOU remaster. He let us know this himself!
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Who's their yarget audience then?
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Dyslexic people, I suppose.
Senua
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TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I had a vivid image of anal papercuts. Thanks for that.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Yeah, I fully agree with this. It's been made and worked on for people who want to buy it. That's it, don't buy it if you don't want to 
. Also, it'll for sure make PS money. And it worked so well with the PS3 > PS4 conversion of the first game, why wouldn't they do it again with II? Totally get it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the "consternation" is how frankly silly it is to give a numerical score out of 10 to a remaster of a 3 1/2 year old game, and treat it like a separate product. I do think there's a larger conversation to be had around that, and I definitely think that not every commerical release of a game product should be subject to a full-on review as if it's a new game.
. Also, it'll for sure make PS money. And it worked so well with the PS3 > PS4 conversion of the first game, why wouldn't they do it again with II? Totally get it.Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the "consternation" is how frankly silly it is to give a numerical score out of 10 to a remaster of a 3 1/2 year old game, and treat it like a separate product. I do think there's a larger conversation to be had around that, and I definitely think that not every commerical release of a game product should be subject to a full-on review as if it's a new game.
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Stooky
Banned
your point not made.
Justin9mm
Member
This PS5 version makes sense but the name does not. I think ppl are upset by the fact that the definition of a remaster is not really this and they have called it a remaster. It technically is a remaster but the level of work in what they have delivered to call it a remaster is pretty low. They should understand that the name was not fitting to what was delivered. Should of called it Director's Cut, Extended Version or Complete Edition, something like that!
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Toons
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No, what you've seen is their successes, unending and constant because despite any ideological squabbles with these guys it is well and truly evident they know what they are doing and they do it well and they have an audience.
Praying for ones downfall like this tends only to reflect your own perspective, not the reality of the situation. Even the hilarious line about Neil 'trying' to break into Hollywood.... hes not trying. He already did it my guy.
Sometimes individuals and products you dont care for will be massive successes. Thats just how it is. You have to accept it and move on.
Muffdraul
Member
I haven't been able to take any TLOU2 criticism seriously since the leak in April 2020. I'm sure there are people out there with legit criticisms against it the game itself. But if so they're drowned out in an ocean of salty butt hurt snowflake alt-right axe grinders.
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Was it Todd Howard who said if you want us to stop (re)releasing Skyrim then stop buying it? Or was it just one of those quotes that has never been said in reality. Anyways, I think it works for many other things as well.
Also, of course I'd buy the PS5 version if I'm new to the system and haven't played the game before. Of course I'd go with the best version available. However, if there wasn't a PS5, I could still play the PS4 version and have a great experience. Try that with games that don't exist (through BC) on your current console... those games need a remaster to be played at all without having a retro console still plugged in.
Also, of course I'd buy the PS5 version if I'm new to the system and haven't played the game before. Of course I'd go with the best version available. However, if there wasn't a PS5, I could still play the PS4 version and have a great experience. Try that with games that don't exist (through BC) on your current console... those games need a remaster to be played at all without having a retro console still plugged in.
DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy
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“Draugoth and Twitter trolls go after TLOU2R director Matthew Gallant“
Xaeroxcore666
Member
Couldn´t be more agree. I know this product has more content, which itself justifys the aditional 10 bucks (if look at from that perspective, 10 $ is cheap for what they added), but the thing is, people at least expected the visual gap that was, for example, between TLOU PS3 and TLOU remastered.