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'The Last of Us: Remastered' coming to PS4, July 2014, [1080p, targeting 60 fps]

I don't want to add another 8 hours of stress to my first through this game, just be having listening mode off. Maybe for me, I'll only turn it on once I'm spending too long in sections

Yeah, I mean it's entirely optional so you could even have it turned on and just not use it unless you're struggling.
 

Loomba

Member
Even without all the upgrades it will be good playing through it without my ps3 sounding like it was going to explode. It was mad distracting.
 

Castcoder

Banned
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DevilFox

Member
I did a lot of planning with Listen mode off. I just played with headphones and had to physically listen to locate enemies. The sound design is incredible for pinpointing stuff like that.

Same, this is the best way to play it. It's also awesome how fast things turn to shit when you get caught, some places can be tough and every single bullet.can save your life so make them count!
For this reason my advice is to play it at hard immediately. At normal there are still too many knives to open the doors and get stocks and if you want to really enjoy the game, you don't want easy stocks.. :D
 

reKon

Banned
Same, this is the best way to play it. It's also awesome how fast things turn to shit when you get caught, some places can be tough and every single bullet.can save your life so make them count!
For this reason my advice is to play it at hard immediately. At normal there are still too many knives to open the doors and get stocks and if you want to really enjoy the game, you don't want easy stocks.. :D

Sometimes sounds in games throw me off. Like I swear I hear something that's coming from one direction, but it's actually coming from the other direction. Maybe it's my M50's that's not getting the job done and why the Sony Gold 7.1 Headset would be ideal for this game.
 

Andrew.

Banned
The best parts of this game happen when your whole "plan" goes to shit and you've got to use on the spot critical thinking where one screw up can cost you half a clip, a misplaced nail bomb or molotov, or a chunk of health.
 
Really listen mode on or off depends solely on your play style and what type of experience you are looking for. My first playthrough, I started on hard with listen mode on. I played very slowly and cautiously, always using listen mode. About midway through the game I sunk some time in the mp and found that the slow and steady approach, while relying on listen mode wasn't working so well for mp. I changed things up to being much more aggressive while still maintaining stealth, so instead of sitting and waiting, I was always moving and flanking. Once I made this change, not only did my mp game dramatically improve, but so did sp. I played the rest of the sp listen mode off, playing very similarly to how I approached the mp. Not only did the tension increase tenfold, but I was better equipped to react when things went bad.
 

Donos

Member
I don't say you can't enjoy the game with listening mode. But i remember the situation staying at a place, panning the camera and then getting suprised by an enemy and fighting for my life. You get almost paranoid afterwards and start checking every corner two times.
More tension.
Or in open combat where the enemies start flanking you and you have to control every direction. You know they are coming but you don't see them. Loved it like that.
 

vpance

Member
It was easy to just grab the keycard first and run. There were really only a few spots that forced you to fight, and that wasn't one.

It wasn't one, but that's only really evident if you died and played the sequence a few times to figure things out which feels shitty. That part was definitely tuned to normal difficulty and trying to fight through it on Hard no listen was a pain.
 
Not having listening mode isn't that bad. Just use headphones and pay attention to the woo-ish sound that happens when a human enemy starts to see you. You can also quickly run through a level the first time you're there to get a sense of how many enemies there are and where they patrol.
 

Andrew.

Banned
Not having listening mode isn't that bad. Just use headphones and pay attention to the woo-ish sound that happens when a human enemy starts to see you. You can also quickly run through a level the first time you're there to get a sense of how many enemies there are and where they patrol.

Exactly this. The woo-ish sound is the reason why you dont need listen mode. When you hear that ambient creepy build up, that should be all your senses need to realize someone or something is either right there or mighty close by and to keep your distance and keep an eye out.

I guess I'll just never understand the people that use LM as a crutch for how they play. I mean Normal mode, sure I get it, especially if you don't consider yourself that good at third person shooters or exploratory action games or it's your first time and you need your TLOU cherry popped. But listen mode? You're completely killing such a large portion of tension and fun to me. Joel isn't Batman. He's just Joel.
 

HardRojo

Member
I liked Listen Mode...

For those that didn't use it, how did the part
with the generators coming on and the bloater thing occurring work?

Don't they just know where you a re? I remember trying to hide but they knew exactly where I was...not having listen mode would make times like that brutal IMO.

That part is easy once you know what to do.
Once you activate the generator you have to go upstairs, wait for the Bloater to get closer to you and then you go around it by using the room with washing machines and stuff, get out of that room and run straight for the door.
Easy.
 
Exactly this. The woo-ish sound is the reason why you dont need listen mode. When you hear that ambient creepy build up, that should be all your senses need to realize someone or something is either right there or mighty close by and to keep your distance and keep an eye out.

I guess I'll just never understand the people that use LM as a crutch for how they play. I mean Normal mode, sure I get it, especially if you don't consider yourself that good at third person shooters or exploratory action games or it's your first time and you need your TLOU cherry popped. But listen mode? You're completely killing such a large portion of tension and fun to me. Joel isn't Batman. He's just Joel.

I guess it's just different personalities. I tried playing on Survivor and barely made it anywhere before I just got angry and gave up. I didn't find it tense I just found it very frustrating.
 

Blanquito

Member
That part is easy once you know what to do.
Once you activate the generator you have to go upstairs, wait for the Bloater to get closer to you and then you go around it by using the room with washing machines and stuff, get out of that room and run straight for the door.
Easy.

And all this time I've been fighting and killing them all (and dying frequently)... what a fool I am!
 

Betty

Banned
Multiplayer should be ok, and will use local servers. It is literally ONLY the DLC weapons you have to buy again, a few quid well spent.. Enjoy, see you there
The only drawback I can think of is if you want the MP DLC that isn't included (cosmetic head pieces & the ability to use some weapons and skills in custom loadouts) you'll have to purchase it from the US Store.

If you've already bought that MP DLC for the PS3 version from a Euro store and decide to get the PS4 game from the US Store, you'll have to rebuy the DLC if you want it cause EU DLC isn't compatible with the US version of the game. The Euro PS3 DLC will be compatible with the Euro PS4 game though and the same goes for US PS3 DLC with the US PS4 game.

That's great, I never bought any of those cosmetic MP things anyway, thanks.
 

drotahorror

Member
I thought remastered edition came with all DLC?

How many weapons is the remastered edition going to be missing? Are they gamebreaking? Much better than the default ones? I hate when games do that, sort of like CoD Ghosts, the DLC guns are amazing in the game.
 

quickwhips

Member
I thought remastered edition came with all DLC?

How many weapons is the remastered edition going to be missing? Are they gamebreaking? Much better than the default ones? I hate when games do that, sort of like CoD Ghosts, the DLC guns are amazing in the game.

I believe you can use them but you can build special custom loadouts without buying them?
 

K3ViNPwNz

Neo Member
I thought remastered edition came with all DLC?

How many weapons is the remastered edition going to be missing? Are they gamebreaking? Much better than the default ones? I hate when games do that, sort of like CoD Ghosts, the DLC guns are amazing in the game.
Yes the game comes withnall dlc in disk.that means guns/boosters/maps

Evrythingnincluded
 
I thought remastered edition came with all DLC?

How many weapons is the remastered edition going to be missing? Are they gamebreaking? Much better than the default ones? I hate when games do that, sort of like CoD Ghosts, the DLC guns are amazing in the game.

I believe you can use them but you can build special classes without buying them?

4 weapons in total will be missing, and can be purchased in a bundle for $5.99. They are all available for use in pre-made loadouts, but must be purchased to be used in custom loadouts. None of the four are game-breaking, and are given the proper loadout cost as to not become unbalanced. You can do absolutely fine in the mp without ever touching any of them.


edit: Can we add to the op that dlc weapons, hats, and skills are not included with TLOU:R unless you have already purchased them individually or as part of the season pass for the ps3 version. TLOU:R includes Grounded Mode, Left Behind, and the dlc mp maps, but not the weapons, hats and skills.
 

Squozen

Member
It is? Where?

It doesn't need confirmation. Unless laws have changed in Germany (they haven't), you can take it as read that the censorship is still required.

I buy all my games and films from the US as I'm in a similar situation with censorship in Australia.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Not having listening mode isn't that bad. Just use headphones and pay attention to the woo-ish sound that happens when a human enemy starts to see you. You can also quickly run through a level the first time you're there to get a sense of how many enemies there are and where they patrol.
That woosh is the scariest and most brilliant audio cue I've heard in recent years. Absolutely essential to gameplay and adds tension.
 
That woosh is the scariest and most brilliant audio cue I've heard in recent years. Absolutely essential to gameplay and adds tension.

Agreed. It is especially crucial in Grounded Mode. I lost count of how many times the woosh or Ellie pointing someone out saved my ass from certain death.
 

Raoh

Member
4 weapons in total will be missing, and can be purchased in a bundle for $5.99. They are all available for use in pre-made loadouts, but must be purchased to be used in custom loadouts. None of the four are game-breaking, and are given the proper loadout cost as to not become unbalanced. You can do absolutely fine in the mp without ever touching any of them.


edit: Can we add to the op that dlc weapons, hats, and skills are not included with TLOU:R unless you have already purchased them individually or as part of the season pass for the ps3 version. TLOU:R includes Grounded Mode, Left Behind, and the dlc mp maps, but not the weapons, hats and skills.

So glad I got the PS3 version with the season pass then. Normally I don't care about hats/gear but the more I played TLoU multiplayer the mroe I wanted to look different from the common character.
 
Yes the game comes withnall dlc in disk.that means guns/boosters/maps

Evrythingnincluded
Not true. It only comes with the maps, Left Behind single player dlc, and Grounded Mode. The cosmetics, boosters, and weapons still have to be purchased.

To answer the question of weapons and perks being unbalanced, imo, no. Those that would say otherwise would probably say that for one or two items, but that's debatable of course.
 

Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Agreed. It is especially crucial in Grounded Mode. I lost count of how many times the woosh or Ellie pointing someone out saved my ass from certain death.
This is so true. The whooshing sound that plays when you're about to get spotted is this game's unsung hero. It's a very clever stealth aid that doesn't feel too intrusive, while also giving you major chills.

And there really is nothing as cool as when Ellie accurately calls out "To your left!" during a pivotal moment, allowing you to react just in time. Like you said, it was a life saver in Grounded Mode.
 

K3ViNPwNz

Neo Member
Not true. It only comes with the maps, Left Behind single player dlc, and Grounded Mode. The cosmetics, boosters, and weapons still have to be purchased.

To answer the question of weapons and perks being unbalanced, imo, no. Those that would say otherwise would probably say that for one or two items, but that's debatable of course.


Source please?Thats really dumb of them do that if true even though I already have season pass from ps3 version.
 

pastrami

Member
I want to add something to the listen mode on/off debate. I think the game does change slightly based on if you have it or don't. One of the highlights of the game for me, was when I thought I had cleared an area of enemies. I was starting to move through to the next area when Ellie suddenly yells out something to the effect of "Look out behind you!"

I do a quick turn around and I see a guy charging at me with a pipe, just a couple feet away. I got off a quick headshot to down him, but I was pretty amazed at how that event had just transpired. If I had listen mode, I likely wouldn't have experienced it. I would have used it to know how many enemies there were, where they were, and most importantly, I would have known when the coast was clear.

I strongly want to urge anyone who hasn't played the game yet, to at least try the game on hard with no listen mode. You can always turn down the difficulty if you find it against your liking, and turn on listen mode if you feel it's too frustrating, but I really feel like you will be missing out on moments like the one I described if you come to rely on it. That said, I don't think that the only way to play the game is hard/no listen. If you find it too difficult and too frustrating, by all means, use listen-mode, and turn down the difficulty. I just think people owe it to themselves to at least give hard/no-listen a shot.
 

djshauny

Banned
So its 100% good to preorder on the US store?

Im in the UK. Dont want to go to play on day of release and it wont boot up haha.
 

oatmeal

Banned
That part is easy once you know what to do.
Once you activate the generator you have to go upstairs, wait for the Bloater to get closer to you and then you go around it by using the room with washing machines and stuff, get out of that room and run straight for the door.
Easy.

It's hard with tears in your eyes man.
 
Source please?Thats really dumb of them do that if true even though I already have season pass from ps3 version.
I'm pretty sure somebody from the studio on Twitter said it, but I'm not sure who. The press release however specifically says:

We can now also say that all current DLC content – head items, weapons, and survival skills – that you have purchased for PS3 will be available for you in the PS4 version. So check out the latest DLC if you haven’t yet.

That quote implies, which has been confirmed, that any cosmetic, perk, or weapon dlc you bought will transfer over, not that all the dlc under those categories will be included.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/06/09/the-last-of-us-remastered-coming-july-29th-to-ps4/
 

Hoje0308

Banned
Is it true they will release a Uncharted Remastered collection?.

To my knowledge it's still very much a rumor, although it does make sense to release before U4. I don't know if anyone expects Naughty Dog to make it though, as it would now be relatively easy for a team specializing in ports to use the work ND has done on TLoU to work on their Uncharted remaster.

Edit: Beaten by a robotic philosopher
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I have such a strong urge to replay this game right now. It's going to be a long month. Hold me, GAF.

To my knowledge it's still very much a rumor, although it does make sense to release before U4. I don't know if anyone expects Naughty Dog to make it though, as it would now be relatively easy for a team specializing in ports to use the work ND has done on TLoU to work on their Uncharted remaster.

Edit: Beaten by a robotic philosopher

I'm guessing that ND/ICE's work on TLoU Remastered will be the blueprint for other studios to work on. I have a hunch that this was more of an experiment for porting documentation than anything else, especially since TLoU would probably be the hardest game to port.
 

Auctopus

Member
That part is easy once you know what to do.
Once you activate the generator you have to go upstairs, wait for the Bloater to get closer to you and then you go around it by using the room with washing machines and stuff, get out of that room and run straight for the door.
Easy.

It's even easier than that, I would've thought!

Before you turn on the generator, go find the door and try it. That'll prevent any chance of Joel doing test run of the key when it really matters. After you turn on the generator, sprint away from it and through the door, across the corridor and into the large ground floor room, up the stairs, take a left and you're already there - you don't need to even set eyes on the Bloater.
 
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