Here you go. Tried to keep spoilers to a minimum. Pretty sure that's all of the ones related to gaining BP. Doesn't include stuff like collecting all Carnelia books to get Estelle/Joshua's ultimate weapons or getting gifts from NPCs for talking to them/giving them stuff at the right times.
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky PC |OT|
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Here you go. Tried to keep spoilers to a minimum. Pretty sure that's all of the ones related to gaining BP. Doesn't include stuff like collecting all Carnelia books to get Estelle/Joshua's ultimate weapons or getting gifts from NPCs for talking to them/giving them stuff at the right times.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I actually didn't mind the dialogue at all because the writing was pretty strong.
Any news on an ETA for SC, by the way? ^^
Any news on an ETA for SC, by the way? ^^
creid
Member
They're doing QA now, so probably a few more months at least.
Ultimadrago
Member
Alright guys, I'm going to start this game for serious.
Any recommendations as far as the graphic configurations go?
Any recommendations as far as the graphic configurations go?
If your pc can handle it just go for the highest settings. Trails doesn't really push all that hard. If you start playing and you notice weird graphical anomalies (was this ever fixed?) you can try turning off Hardware Vertex Shading which *should* fix the issue. Pretty sure High Resolution Fonts won't cause anyone any more crashes, but if it does you can also turn that off (or on if not, I forget the default).
If you're using a direct-input controller you might want or need to remap some buttons (X-input should map correctly). Yes, the cancel button and Camp screen button are one and the same (you'll get used to it). Some peeps have issues with the right-stick camera going nuts, but you can turn that off in config.
If you're using a direct-input controller you might want or need to remap some buttons (X-input should map correctly). Yes, the cancel button and Camp screen button are one and the same (you'll get used to it). Some peeps have issues with the right-stick camera going nuts, but you can turn that off in config.
Ultimadrago
Member
Thanks guys.
Ultimadrago
Member
This music doh
These tunes are jammin'. Who composed?
Also, I'm still in the Prologue, but I'm certainly enjoying the introduction thus far. The dialogue clicks rather nicely together and it seems like everyone in town has something to say after you do anything. I hope to see more of that as the game goes on.
These tunes are jammin'. Who composed?
Also, I'm still in the Prologue, but I'm certainly enjoying the introduction thus far. The dialogue clicks rather nicely together and it seems like everyone in town has something to say after you do anything. I hope to see more of that as the game goes on.
ColossalLazy
Member
Oh this is true and important. After I had advanced the plot some way, I always checked what the NPCs had to say.
I've seen people accurately predicting some plot points in SC solely based on dialogues with NPCs (and some proper thinking), in particular in the latter chapters.
Pellegri Testament
Member
I'd honestly hope people could figure at least a few things out when it comes to the foreshadowing for the sequel, considering there's so much of it in this. Certain things also become a lot more obvious if you're a big rpg/anime fan, since so many of the bigger rpgs/anime use many of the same plot devices.
Been marathoning my second playthrough the last couple of days, after it laid stagnant months before at Chapter 1 while other things occupied my time. Really racking up those achievements I missed out on the first time through (especially the ones that were thought to be broken before all those patches... hello Patient Plunderer). New Game + really takes the challenge out of it, though... I guess I shouldn't have chickened out of Hard mode.
I just really wanted to get my perfect Bracer score saved and ready for carry-over when Second Chapter hits. I'm close to wrapping up the Grancel chapter, and then I'll be set. Monster Book was fun to fill in even though there's no achievement tied to it, but what a shame you have to sacrifice Bracer Points to complete Zeiss' list. So much for 100 percent. I'm not going to replay this one again anytime soon.
Uh, heard on the grapevine that Second Chapter will also require more than one playthrough to 100% (apparently you have to pick and choose from two different routes to follow at some point?)... and that's on top of being more than twice the size of FC.
EDIT: Finally!
I just really wanted to get my perfect Bracer score saved and ready for carry-over when Second Chapter hits. I'm close to wrapping up the Grancel chapter, and then I'll be set. Monster Book was fun to fill in even though there's no achievement tied to it, but what a shame you have to sacrifice Bracer Points to complete Zeiss' list. So much for 100 percent. I'm not going to replay this one again anytime soon.
Uh, heard on the grapevine that Second Chapter will also require more than one playthrough to 100% (apparently you have to pick and choose from two different routes to follow at some point?)... and that's on top of being more than twice the size of FC.
EDIT: Finally!
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
So yeah, this game is great. I've been holding off until now because I fear The Thirst. And it looks as though I'm right, since I'm part of the way through Chapter 2 (getting around to side-quests before Jenis now) and it keeps improving. Olivier is awesome in general, but I find the scene with him in the slammer most interesting. There's an undercurrent of absurdity to Morgan's arrest and incarceration of the main characters, which Olivier's story-telling makes all the more noticeable. It's not just that he's a bard, it's that Falcom uses him for utmost comic relief while simultaneously making him out to be more than he lets on. I could say the same for the protagonists, Schera, even sideshow people like Aina and Josette (latter's got the Waifu Award so far).
Flaws exist, of course. It took me too long to figure out some enemies' behaviors (the first Insectoids in Rolent mainly), and I feel like the game could have done a better job telegraphing in what circumstances they would attack a character. I also take offense to a couple of plot events, like when a monster tries to ambush Estelle while she's gloating to Luke and Pat in Esmelas Tower. Problem here is the monster did not at all seem threatening, so Cassius jumping in and using her as an example (which she goes along with) doesn't ring. I'd rather have fought the damn thing and either won or lost, a kind of role-playing that I find more meaningful compared to some quest choices. Speaking of those, I find the Air-Letten nephew quest tedious, since there's no easy way to figure out which option is the best other than reloading—good thing the bad options are still hilarious.
My bad habit right now is fighting too much and exploring areas like Esmelas Tower and the Nebel Valley way ahead of time (went immediately through the latter as soon as I could, even before registering in Bose). I'm not sure I'm over-leveled, but it's hard to know when a challenging fight's coming because of this. Oh well. All the Sophisticated Fight haters can suck it! That song keeps me going for much too long with how catchy and modern it sounds.
Flaws exist, of course. It took me too long to figure out some enemies' behaviors (the first Insectoids in Rolent mainly), and I feel like the game could have done a better job telegraphing in what circumstances they would attack a character. I also take offense to a couple of plot events, like when a monster tries to ambush Estelle while she's gloating to Luke and Pat in Esmelas Tower. Problem here is the monster did not at all seem threatening, so Cassius jumping in and using her as an example (which she goes along with) doesn't ring. I'd rather have fought the damn thing and either won or lost, a kind of role-playing that I find more meaningful compared to some quest choices. Speaking of those, I find the Air-Letten nephew quest tedious, since there's no easy way to figure out which option is the best other than reloading—good thing the bad options are still hilarious.
My bad habit right now is fighting too much and exploring areas like Esmelas Tower and the Nebel Valley way ahead of time (went immediately through the latter as soon as I could, even before registering in Bose). I'm not sure I'm over-leveled, but it's hard to know when a challenging fight's coming because of this. Oh well. All the Sophisticated Fight haters can suck it! That song keeps me going for much too long with how catchy and modern it sounds.
If you start getting overleveled, you start receiving alot less exp, so the gap doesn't get too far, iirc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuqzR-iMas
I like this. Sax should be in everything.
Supaidaman
Member
So... any news about SC? =p
Basileus777
Member
It's still in QA.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Yeah, but I'm a sucker for money, and I've noticed all the encounters are set and different, so that's motivation fight every single instance on the overworld and in dungeons.
Dat Zanami rearrange.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Cleared my first playthrough. No canteen's deep enough to quench The Thirst! Seriously, what an ending.
. I'm very impressed with how long I played this game due to it having such dense world-building and a satisfying battle system.
I brought along
for the final boss. Multi-part enemy wasn't that big a deal compared to
, in whose case I had to experiment before realizing Kaempfer is OP. Confusion really is the best (or at least the most fun) status condition to inflict, especially during the Tournament finals. Finally, it's funky how some animations lock at 30 FPS, much lower than for other animated models.
Weissmann creeps me the fuck out. Richard himself is revealed to have genuine fears, whereas this guy comes out of nowhere and does the most blatant plot dump in the whole game like it's a game. His reveal's handled well, as is the idea that Joshua may never reclaim his boyhood self prior to his breakdown and Black Fang thereafter. I focus a lot more on Estelle mainly because it's very easy for me to emphasize with Joshua already...shit really is about to go down, though, and Estelle being positive going forward makes the most sense. Also, I'm excited to meet the Capuas in SC, probably for the same reasons I love the Bonnes
I brought along
Kloe and Olivier
Lorence
Barrylocke
Member
A friendly note to interested parties and those that want to infect indoctrinate inform their friends about this game. It's currently 9.99 at GOG.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
If you haven't fought him already, make sure you can get Estelle's party up to 200 CP for the battle with Lorence. Guy's not supposed to be defeated, but you can definitely take him down with S-Crafts and Kaempfer spamming. Make sure you have accessories equipped to ward against mute and confuse.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Sorry, not real sure about where to ask this one, but about to purchase a windows 8 really low weight tablet, between a surface 3 or one of the HP streams. Does anyone run this game on any equivalent hardware, if so how does it fair and with what resolution, thanks! I had this for PSP originally but never got around to playing it, excited to jump back in.
Muffin Awesome
Member
Hopefully the atom can handle it then, I am looking at extremely light weights, next question is, does this ever drop down below 19.99?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It was just $10 on GOG a day or two ago. Not sure if it still is. Will probably drop to a similar price during the Steam sale.
Barrylocke
Member
Nah, it's back at 19.99, but like you said it should get a drop during the steam sale. I wonder if they'll also do a drop around SC's launch to entice people interested in SC to get FC too (as they should).
Muffin Awesome
Member
I am so new to PC gaming when do the steam sales usually hit?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It's supposed to start on the 11th. Trails will probably be a daily/flash/community deal but who knows what day it will be. It might also be on sale again on GOG.
charlequin
Banned
Next one starts on Thursday.
Ending spoilers in both tags so maybe no clicky or maybe yes whatever I'm not your mom
Super slowly making my way through the PC version, wish we'd get a solid-ish release date for SC so I could find the motivation to binge through the rest of FC. Can't wait to be disappointed by the obvious
"twist".
e: suddenly finding SC in the Steam sales would be fucking amazing though
Super slowly making my way through the PC version, wish we'd get a solid-ish release date for SC so I could find the motivation to binge through the rest of FC. Can't wait to be disappointed by the obvious
"power of love wins and Joshua is now a good guy again"
I really hope Joshua stays evil, partly because it'd be genuinely surprising, partly because Joshua and Estelle are kiiind of annoying characters and I don't want to see them end up happily together lmao
e: suddenly finding SC in the Steam sales would be fucking amazing though
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Joshua's more annoying to me, partly because he exhibits a more subtle passive-aggressiveness than Estelle's. OTOH she's naive but is making an effort to learn from her peers—Joshua's got his mind all made up,
. The real struggle I foresee is Joshua figuring out what kind of person he was going to be prior to
taking him away. I don't loathe either of the characters, so when they annoy me it's because I know they can do better and hopefully will. Olivier knows he can play dumb about things he knows or wants to know, all because of his character flaws, so maybe he's the most annoying one so far (aside from Cassius, lol).
literally for the most part
Weissmann
SatelliteOfLove
Member
You monster!
My head canon/predictions are
hopefully it's him being damaged again or he's double agent one on a suicide mission one.
do a one-note face-heel-face turn without care and tact, and Wiseman actually STOPPED whim-whamming him there, so that's right out.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I didn't even know about the alternate final boss ending where, if you've failed to
. Cassius is so OP he needs his own game...maybe The Legend of Hero: Trails of the Colonel?
get enough BP/do enough side-quests (info was rather vague last I checked), Cassius does all the work for you when he appears to fight Reverie, meaning you don't even get that final phase where you start with max CP
max_505
Member
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
It could be some kind of strategy game at least, maybe in the style of Vantage Master. Or a musuo game of sorts too!
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Drew on with a Sharpie. Some real Adolph Menjou shit.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Well it's known that Menjou didn't take much to acting with Katherine Hepburn (conservative vs. liberal). Are you saying Cassius harbors some kind of discomfort whenever he takes requests with Scherazard?!
I'll stop now. Also, Peace Bestowed By Twilight is the best dungeon theme in the game after Hollow Light of the Sealed Land.
I'll stop now. Also, Peace Bestowed By Twilight is the best dungeon theme in the game after Hollow Light of the Sealed Land.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yangxu's on gamefaqs covers everything, I think.
BassForever
Member
I used Berserk Blade's as it's html formatted and is pretty much spoiler free. The only thing he misses is one of the liberl news that you have to buy after chapter 1 but before going to chapter 2.
I'm playing through FC again since it's nearly Summer and I thought I'd make the effort to chat to all the NPCs after every event on this playthrough and see what they all have to say.
This may explain why my in-game time is now at 33 hours and I'm only now reaching the Play in Chapter 2.
Anyway this aside, there's a couple of things I've picked up from some NPCs which have intrigued me but no doubt have been touched on in later games.
This may explain why my in-game time is now at 33 hours and I'm only now reaching the Play in Chapter 2.
Anyway this aside, there's a couple of things I've picked up from some NPCs which have intrigued me but no doubt have been touched on in later games.
1) In Bose in the bar, there's a scholar who starts ranting about the ruined civilization that used to exist in ancient times but he swiftly moves onto talk of dragons. He makes mention that they are wise beings which hints to me that they are sentient beings capable of human communication.
He also mentions that they all began disappearing around the time of the Orbal Revolution which was 50 years ago. Finally he finishes off by saying that one of the last dragons seen was in the Bose region and he has managed to find a person who saw it last.
2) At the Haken Gate, one of the guards on the wall mentions that you used to be able to see an Erebonian town from up on the wall but it vanished entirely shortly before the start of the Hundred Day War. He also mentions that it couldn't have been Liberl since they made no excursions into the Empire.
Since at this point there wasn't much n the way of explanation for the war in the first place, perhaps this provides a reason for it.
3)This is less of a point of intrigue and more something interesting. Someone mentioned that the Empire was originally a mass of differnt cultures and microstates before it was all unified into the empire it is. They also make mention that the Imperial family still has a vice like grip on the country's rulership.
He also mentions that they all began disappearing around the time of the Orbal Revolution which was 50 years ago. Finally he finishes off by saying that one of the last dragons seen was in the Bose region and he has managed to find a person who saw it last.
2) At the Haken Gate, one of the guards on the wall mentions that you used to be able to see an Erebonian town from up on the wall but it vanished entirely shortly before the start of the Hundred Day War. He also mentions that it couldn't have been Liberl since they made no excursions into the Empire.
Since at this point there wasn't much n the way of explanation for the war in the first place, perhaps this provides a reason for it.
3)This is less of a point of intrigue and more something interesting. Someone mentioned that the Empire was originally a mass of differnt cultures and microstates before it was all unified into the empire it is. They also make mention that the Imperial family still has a vice like grip on the country's rulership.
*thumbs up*
Bookmark your own post and re-read it after you've finished SC and Cold Steel.
It's only every so often that you encounter an NPC that talks about interesting little tidbits like that.
Most of the time, they're usually making comments about their own lives such as the women who wanders round going Bose going "Oh I like shopping. I wish I could go shopping right now. Damn, I cant go shopping because of the army. When can I go shopping again. Awesome, I can go shopping again" but then you get the occasional NPC that hints that they might actually achieve something the next time you see them in SC. Like the little would-be-reporter girl in Rolent or the adorable little boy and girl pair in Bose.
The dialogue changes so often though. The prologue ended up taking me 11 hours (but I spent silly time unlocking my orbments heh) and Chapter 1 took me up to 25 hours on the clock. Heaven knows how long Grancel will take me since I recall that as being FILLED with NPCs.
Ha, yeah, I'm taking my sweet ass time as well. I'm roughly 25 hours in and am just starting Chapter 2. I already played the game on my Vita last summer, so I'm mostly replaying it to refresh my memory of the main plot and get a perfect save ready for SC.
I'm also attempting to get all the achievements done in a single playthrough, so I'm using a guide/spreadsheet to make sure I don't miss anything. So that adds quite a bit of time to double check everything whenever the plot moves forward.
It's kinda weird replaying it now since I basically went in blind the first time whereas now I know quite a bit more about the Kiseki world. So, I'm actually getting a lot more out of the world building, which is really nice. It ended up sucking me right back in.
I'm also attempting to get all the achievements done in a single playthrough, so I'm using a guide/spreadsheet to make sure I don't miss anything. So that adds quite a bit of time to double check everything whenever the plot moves forward.
It's kinda weird replaying it now since I basically went in blind the first time whereas now I know quite a bit more about the Kiseki world. So, I'm actually getting a lot more out of the world building, which is really nice. It ended up sucking me right back in.
So some further musings now that I've just reached the end of the Play in Chapter 2:
1)Obviously the question of the silver haired man remains. As I recall he doesn't appear again but judging by Joshua's disposition he will evidently make a further appearance later.
2) Joseph, the Matron's husband is mentioned a few times. I wonder if there is more to him than simply that summary.
3) The actual content of the play is intriguing. Presumably it had some basis on real life events since someone comments "they've done their research" but how much of it was actually true would be interesting. The miracle at the end also raises questions about Aidios; whether her presence in the story was of a fictional intercession or whether there was some genuine involvement.
2) Joseph, the Matron's husband is mentioned a few times. I wonder if there is more to him than simply that summary.
3) The actual content of the play is intriguing. Presumably it had some basis on real life events since someone comments "they've done their research" but how much of it was actually true would be interesting. The miracle at the end also raises questions about Aidios; whether her presence in the story was of a fictional intercession or whether there was some genuine involvement.