Electric Brain
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Sincewhen has any part of Zelda story been anything BUT inessential?
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Sincewhen has any part of Zelda story been anything BUT inessential?
decoyplatypus
Member
And which is not the interesting because
(1) we didn't actually need an origin story for Link/Zelda/etc (as I said, OoT had us covered pretty well--call this the Star Wars prequel problem), and (2) the game itself does little with the consequences of that plan for our two main characters (as I argued in my previous post). We're left with a revelation that is not particularly dramatic within the game or for the series as a whole.
You could argue that we needed an origin story for the master sword, but despite Fi's presence we really got very little information about Fi or the sword itself. You may also think that Zelda locking herself away and sending Link as her chosen agent to obtain the triforce and conquer evil is plenty interesting. It's certainly very similar to what we've seen in previous Zelda games. For that reason, I'm not going to say SS had a bad story--just a dull one. It peaked during the more mysterious first third of the game (climaxing at the original time gate), and then it got really fucking stupid in the last third. No one thinks to close the time gate behind Link when there is (a) no reason to think Link would ever have to go back through it, and (b) the villain admits he is looking for it? Impa blew up one time gate to keep Ghirahim from going through--it doesn't occur to her to be careful with this one?
You could argue that we needed an origin story for the master sword, but despite Fi's presence we really got very little information about Fi or the sword itself. You may also think that Zelda locking herself away and sending Link as her chosen agent to obtain the triforce and conquer evil is plenty interesting. It's certainly very similar to what we've seen in previous Zelda games. For that reason, I'm not going to say SS had a bad story--just a dull one. It peaked during the more mysterious first third of the game (climaxing at the original time gate), and then it got really fucking stupid in the last third. No one thinks to close the time gate behind Link when there is (a) no reason to think Link would ever have to go back through it, and (b) the villain admits he is looking for it? Impa blew up one time gate to keep Ghirahim from going through--it doesn't occur to her to be careful with this one?
TheCongressman1
Member
Has anyone found any ways to break out of the boundaries yet? I want to explore, dang it.
decoyplatypus
Member
I know this particular device is not unique to SS, but I have a hard time understanding why (3rd dungeon spoiler, I guess)
you don't gain access to the three regions simultaneously. Not that there's a whole lot of exploration to be done in any particular area of SS, but it would have been nice to have the option of flying to Lanayru, for instance, and then turning around once I couldn't advance any farther. Note that this would actually be good for beginners too since they would be able to gather more heart pieces or upgrades before returning to the main quest. These arbitrary boundaries are one of the worst trends in modern Zelda.
Oh, different kind of boundaries.
Just passed my 2nd trial (and then spent a lot of time in skyloft). I'm loving this game. Unlocked (minigame spoilers)
I'm kind of bummed that it seems like I have everything upgraded already. I hope the game surprises me somehow in this regard.
Also, any harp tips? I'm having trouble with
Fun Fun Island, and I LOVE it. Skydiving was one of my favorites in WSR, and this minigame is just as fun. I fear that is has broken the rupee system for me. I just spent 1200 out of my 1900 max because i knew I could get it back so quickly. And sure enough, 10-15 minutes later, I did! Oh well...Now everytime I upgrade my wallet I'll just head back to Fun Fun!
I'm kind of bummed that it seems like I have everything upgraded already. I hope the game surprises me somehow in this regard.
Also, any harp tips? I'm having trouble with
the performance with Kina at the lumpy pumpkin.
Just beat the game!
I think it's my favorite Zelda. Sure there are some annoying parts, but I found it such a joy to play the game. The ending was nice and overall just a really amazing game. The music, graphics, gameplay everything... sooo gooood.
Also weapon spoiler kinda
I think it's my favorite Zelda. Sure there are some annoying parts, but I found it such a joy to play the game. The ending was nice and overall just a really amazing game. The music, graphics, gameplay everything... sooo gooood.
Also weapon spoiler kinda
The Goddess Longsword is such a beautiful weapon... I like it more than the Master Sword. I'm pretty sure if I ever see someone selling a Goddess Longsword I'm going to buy it
The Lamonster
Member
What are some games where you can actually do this? I only have experience breaking out of the invisible walls in Halo 2 and it was awesome.
Thanks for the advice. I didn't know you were supposed to hold it vertically on the tightropes, guess that explains why I was flailing my arm around like an idiot with no success.
kunonabi
Member
Really? I tilted my wiimote all the time and I still got the strikes I wanted. I tested for like 5 minutes once I got into the first dungeon just to see what I could do.
TheCongressman1
Member
You could do it to an extent in TP. Ah, Halo 2 was the king of hidden exploration.
You can DASH ACROSS TIGHTROPES?! God dammit lol.
If the Goddess Longsword is the one after you get Nayru's flame then I agree, it looks absolutely beautiful
It's the first upgraded Goddess sword, the second is the Goddess Whitesword which is just as beautiful, but I didn't like the whiteness of it at first... still they look amazing.
You get feathers from any birds anywhere. Just use the bug net on them. Blue birds give the rare feather.
I'm guessing Faron Woods is the only place though right?
Kinda weird cause I can find blue feathers or goddess plumes everywhere but regular bird feathers can't be found in chests or anything.
brandonh83
Banned
So I think I just hit the part where you can experience a game breaking bug, but search is down so I wanted to make sure that I don't get it,
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are you supposed to visit Lanayru last in order to not get it
Faron Woods easily has the most birds, yeah. But they're throughout the whole game really.
decoyplatypus
Member
Yeah.
brandonh83
Banned
Rock on, thanks.
Ah, honestly they are both amazing, but I like this one the most. Something about the witness just appeals to me, maybe it's because this is the first time in 3D Zelda history that link is using a white sword? I don't know. But the design is genius, I very much prefer those over the master sword
MrCookiepants
Member
Well, got the last Heart Piece and now I'm moving on to Hero mode.
Really making an effort to appreciate the music this time around. It is AMAZING in the first hours of the game.
Really making an effort to appreciate the music this time around. It is AMAZING in the first hours of the game.
brandonh83
Banned
Did anyone else notice that... eh it's not some terrible spoiler but what the hell:
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the exterior of the second dungeon looks identical to the dungeon at the highest mountain peak in ALTTP? And they're both on what is pretty much going to be Death Mountain
Yeah, it's not a tower or a pyramid, it's a pagoda.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
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escort mission
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I said 3D though
I don't know how to read!
That part wasn't that bad, are you actually having trouble with it? Or just hating on an escort mission.
Yup, I generally hate escort missions, and this was no different. This was the "low" point of the game for me.
They are worse, but that's because I thought the water dragon quest was one of the game's highlights
They are completely different. Anyway, I actually enjoyed that collection, which surprised me since the first thought I had was oh my god another collectathon.
Easily the worst part of the game so far. Especially without arrows readily available.
Well... pagodas are towers and can be pyramidal, but yeah. They don't look similar at all.
brandonh83
Banned
If it's not the same it's clearly inspired by it enough to maybe be there for the fans, I mean they're both essentially atop Death Mountain and they're both tall, layered structures.
I mean this is straight from ALTTP
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk1fbhlfLl1qbcswco1_500.png
And to me looks very close to the one in SS. Again they may not be the same building, but they're situated in a very similar geography, both in the same mountain region. Also, different time periods and stuff... we've seen the same places across various games taking different looks.
shadyspace
Banned
I actually
ended up staying in one spot for a bit to dodge a Moblin archer and steal the arrows that missed me and stuck in the ground. Was a pretty cool moment. Felt like Legalos or some shit.
The other two are great. After the part you're doing till the credits roll the entire game was pure excellence for me.
Worst part of the game.
Yeah man, I had a harder time getting ornamental skulls than golden skulls, which are supposed to be rarer.
That's good to hear. I was ready to put the game down for a couple of days.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Hah.
Not exactly the highlight, but not too bad.
There's much more annoying coming up soon.
There's much more annoying coming up soon.
I must be weird since I didn't mind the escort mission at all. Maybe it was because I upgraded the quiver to the large one and had a bunch of arrows available. It was fun sniping everything including the Moblins. Only part I failed was when those stupid lava slug things I didn't notice killed Scrapper
omg, scrapper can die!?!
shadyspace
Banned
What a tragedy that would be!