VN1X
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No fucking way.
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Airbus Jr
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I always thought Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast were received by Cirdan at the Grey Havens.
The Blue Wizard theory is the most logical one, but the problem there is that there were two of them and I always thought that they arrived in Middle-Earth together.
Konnor
Member
Doctor Strange 2 actually proved to me that it's hopeless to expect any quality from Marvel shit even if the director is a genius, the movie was fucking horrible. You could see some glimpses of Sam Reimi in there with the zombie Strange for example but everything else was neutered and Disneyfied to the point it made the movie look like Disney tried to pay homage to Reimi a few times in the movie instead of Reimi directing the whole fucking thing. Having said that Disney is the most extreme example of this, they neuter everything to an unprecedented degree.
And you're kind of right, even if Peter Jackson directed this I suspect it would be mediocre considering how much the Hobbit was butchered because of studio incompetence and interference but there's nothing worse than idiots coming to an established franchise and butchering it to death with their stupidity, dumb politics and disrespect.
ikbalCO
Member
I expected to hate it. I was ready to hate it but i liked it.
First two episodes were really good. And production value is really high.
Building the narrative on galadriel is smart. She is one of the more interesting characters in the lotr universe. I also like the actor who potrays her.
Only thing i dont like is using dwarfs as a comic relif again. Dont get me wrong i am no sjw but its just boring at this point. Arghhh my cold beer... arghhh salted porkk... its banal and cliché.
Orcs look super cool as well.
First two episodes were really good. And production value is really high.
Building the narrative on galadriel is smart. She is one of the more interesting characters in the lotr universe. I also like the actor who potrays her.
Only thing i dont like is using dwarfs as a comic relif again. Dont get me wrong i am no sjw but its just boring at this point. Arghhh my cold beer... arghhh salted porkk... its banal and cliché.
Orcs look super cool as well.
Mossybrew
Member
Hah, this was my daughter's only complaint with the show. She's pretty thirsty for elves and the short hair was just not doing it for her.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I think the show is better than expected considering my low expectations. I couldn't stomach The Witcher and Foundation because of its casting, but it wasn't as jarring as I feared. It's not what I would have wanted but it could have been much, much worse. I'lk keep watching The Rings of Power which is more than I could say about shows like The Witcher and Foundation which I dropped after just one episode.
I have to say I loved the score of The Rings of Power. That scene of the boat entering Valinor was top notch. Powerful combination of music and visuals.
I have to say I loved the score of The Rings of Power. That scene of the boat entering Valinor was top notch. Powerful combination of music and visuals.
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VN1X
Banned
Thirsty means horny btw but it's cool that you have such a relationship with your daughter.
FunkMiller
Member
Morgoth is very definitely dead at this point. An entire continent sunk into the sea in the effort to kill him.
Artoris
Gold Member
If I remember correctly, he was banished into the void
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I can't make it through episode 1. Tried twice.
E-Cat
Member
Just like Ganondorf
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Nah, Morgoth is in chains in the Void. He's one of the Valar and he can't be killed until the Last Battle.
As for the event you're referring to ... I can't say more because I daresay the show will be depicting that calamitous event and the aftermath.
The Stranger is obviously Qui Gon Jinn the White. After he got shafted by Maul, he reincarnated in Middle-Earth, and is confused as fuck.
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strange headache
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Mossybrew
Member
Yeah man she's 23, lol I guess that could read weird if you assume daughter=young child.
RAÏSanÏa
Member
Beware of his voice.
An initial scene with The Stranger did have a vocal moment.
Could be common among wizards.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
You mean directors like Kenneth Branagh, Jon Favreau, Joe Johnston, Joss Whedon - all of whom were already established when the MCU was starting.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Some random thoughts:
Who else guess that there would be a scene of young Galadriel tackling a boy and punching him? (Alright she stopped voluntarily) but this trope was in there as expected.
Bronwyn is clean with coloured clothes whereas everyone else is dirty in grey, dark coloured clothes.
The Lord of Eregion just strolled to Khazad Dum without any escort? And then had to walk back alone as soon as he arrived?
You hear rats in the floorboards and you start smashing them to bits?
Who else guess that there would be a scene of young Galadriel tackling a boy and punching him? (Alright she stopped voluntarily) but this trope was in there as expected.
Bronwyn is clean with coloured clothes whereas everyone else is dirty in grey, dark coloured clothes.
The Lord of Eregion just strolled to Khazad Dum without any escort? And then had to walk back alone as soon as he arrived?
You hear rats in the floorboards and you start smashing them to bits?
Unknown Soldier
Member
Those really early MCU movies were pretty damn good, before they started assembling 3 per year in a factory.
The Avengers movies directed by Whedon were shit though. Whedon hasn't done anything good since the Firefly TV show.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I’ll put it in the background because I still want to see some cool Tolkien imagery. We got a few seconds of that in the first episode and we got to see Khazad Dum in the second. Speaking of the imagery, where are the sets in this show? The elves just stand around in open air, the hobo-its live in a dirty, muddy commune (half expected someone to ring a bell calling “bring out your dead”), the southlands village is just a generic medieval village.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yeah, Celebrimbor being forced to walk all the way back to Eregion by himself made me laugh. If I was being generous, I'd say the escorts were just out of sight in order to avoid upsetting the Dwarves.
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sol_bad
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Stop talking out of your butt hole. Phase 1 and 2 were far more restricted by the New York committee than phase 3 and 4 were. Why do you think there are more willing directors to return? Because they were given greater freedom to do what they wanted and they loved the collaboration between everyone.
When Captain America 3 was in pre-production, Kevin Feige walked past Christopher Markus, Stephen McFeely and the Russo brothers and casually said "I think you guys should do Civil War" and kept on walking. The four of them all looked at each other thinking "We can do that?" It's not a production line where they weren't forced to do Civil War, it was a suggested idea and they all wanted to do it.
I don't think Joss Whedon has done anything since Age of Ultron because I think that movie broke him with the shit that was coming from the Marvel New York committee. And it's important to note that this committee was not a part of Marvel Studios.
Tams
Member
I think you live on another planet.
Yes, the CGI is better, but it's also still clearly CGI as that's just how it is.
The practical effects are not better.
Tomeru
Member
Ulysses 31
Member
Didn't catch Galadriel's plan to swim all the way back from her boat to the mainland?
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Wildebeest
Member
I read somewhere that Amazon paid 250 million for rights that only extend to characters mentioned in the second age section of the appendix in Lord of the Rings. Nothing from the rest of the book or other material at all. They cannot do things like in the Silmarillion because they are legally not allowed to mention those characters. But surely they have already brought up things that are not in this handful of pages?
bob_mugabe
Banned
At this point, I am half expecting Serena Williams to be cast as a dwarf, now that she's retired.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I'm convinced that Morfyyd Clark was cast as Galadriel solely because she looks vaguely like a young Cate Blanchett. It certainly wasn't because of her amazing acting chops.
GymWolf
Gold Member
I see no other reason tbh.I'm convinced that Morfyyd Clark was cast as Galadriel solely because she looks vaguely like a young Cate Blanchett. It certainly wasn't because of her amazing acting chops.
But hey she is cute and for many people being cute is the same as good acting, so...
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VN1X
Banned
Cyberpunkd
Member
Well, they clearly referenced Feanor and Silmarils…
VN1X
Banned
Also this show is made by people who despise you, the works of Tolkien and its fans (and have gone out of their way to, by their own admission, subvert the original work whenever possible to insert contemporary politics) but gee golly it sure does look good! *cue applause on credit roll*
Even if you take away all of the culture war shenanigans and corporatized bs you're still left with a show where almost everyone speaks in the highborn language of "Trailer-Speech". No idea how some of you don't cringe through the floor with some of that awful dialogue on display.
Even if you take away all of the culture war shenanigans and corporatized bs you're still left with a show where almost everyone speaks in the highborn language of "Trailer-Speech". No idea how some of you don't cringe through the floor with some of that awful dialogue on display.
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Kev Kev
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Also this show is made by people who despise you, the works of Tolkien and its fans (and have gone out of their way to, by their own admission, subvert the original work whenever possible to insert contemporary politics) but gee golly it sure does look good! *cue applause on credit roll*
Even if you take away all of the culture war shenanigans and corporatized bs you're still left with a show where almost everyone speaks in the highborn language of "Trailer-Speech". No idea how some of you don't cringe through the floor with some of that awful dialogue on display.
So... you'e not coming to my season finale watch party?
Ulysses 31
Member
Also this show is made by people who despise you, the works of Tolkien and its fans (and have gone out of their way to, by their own admission, subvert the original work whenever possible to insert contemporary politics) but gee golly it sure does look good! *cue applause on credit roll*
Even if you take away all of the culture war shenanigans and corporatized bs you're still left with a show where almost everyone speaks in the highborn language of "Trailer-Speech". No idea how some of you don't cringe through the floor with some of that awful dialogue on display.
I think Just Some Guy is better at pointing out how RoP goes against lore or makes weird changes.
VN1X
Banned
Tams
Member
If you're that constipated, then I'm sure you'll be welcome as long as it doesn't loosen up at the party.
Just stay away from the nut & berry mix, and the avocado dip/guac.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Given that even during his life Tolkien despised how popular Lord of the Rings had become and he was getting so many letters from random people I am sure he loves the fact he is dead and does not have to get angry emails from all the manchildren.
Hugare
Member
Funny, I think the show looks good, yes
But fancy effects ≠ good cinematography
That Daemon fight scene from HotD looked better to me than anything presented here
Show is good enough so far. This and HotD are much better than I was expecting.
I think that sometimes it deviates from the lore "just because" tho. Unnecessary changes.
But fancy effects ≠ good cinematography
That Daemon fight scene from HotD looked better to me than anything presented here
Show is good enough so far. This and HotD are much better than I was expecting.
I think that sometimes it deviates from the lore "just because" tho. Unnecessary changes.
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balls of snow
Member
Its better for me to watch the episode as they come out so I can laugh with the youtuber over
the strange decisions the show makes.
These show writers had the gall to say they are writing the book Tolkien would've write. Somehow, I doubt we will get scenes like these.
Instead we get Galadriel being mindfucked and wondering what the hell is the difference between a rock and a boat.
ManaByte
Gold Member
darrylgorn
Member
I'm good with meteor man being Saruman, Gandalf or Radagast. It'll probably be Gandalf.
It has to be someone that audiences can associate with or it will be a bit of a waste to build up the mystery.
It has to be someone that audiences can associate with or it will be a bit of a waste to build up the mystery.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
It's most likely either Alatar or Pallando, and one of them is searching for the other.
Or ... It's actually a Balrog. I mean the showrunners have changed huge parts of the lore already so why not. Bring on that Balrog and Hobbit romance!
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darrylgorn
Member
I think they've done a pretty good job of weaving in elements of the tone from both the books and the movies while having their own narrative worked in.
That said, people want to see Gandalf, not some rando wizards.
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Tams
Member
It's going to be Gandalf. There's no way they'd (for various reasons) go for anyone else.
Hell, even the blanket the hobbit girl gave him is grey.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Yep overall they're not doing too badly; the showrunners can only do so much with the limited rights they have. I wish they did manage to get the rights to Silmarillion though.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Can't be. Gandalf and the other two idiots arrived in the Third Age. But like I said who knows with this show.
Kinda getting sinister vibes from the dude to be honest.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
The two Blue Wizards came during the Second Age around the time the Rings were forged.