Fbh
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This was one of the stupidest exchanges I've seen in Movies/TV in a while
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This was one of the stupidest exchanges I've seen in Movies/TV in a while
FunkMiller
Member
An astartes movie would probably be a bit crap, to be honest. They’re too one dimensional (in current 40k time anyway). Better to keep them as a force of nature, the way Abnett uses them in his Inquisitor novels. Concentrate on more human characters… the same way Tolkien concentrated on his ‘human’ characters like the hobbits, and not the elves. Same thing. And any Warhammer film would have to focus on one aspect. You couldn’t do a film that covered the warp, tyrannids, Tau etc. etc. I’d probably concentrate on one planet/star system and one antagonist.
balls of snow
Member
Lol it wasn't very good. Soundtrack was killer though. Get the feeling the showrunners wanna quickly move on to that other matrix -like Amazon show, The Peripheral.
Anyways, big battle setpiece next week. All set around a (watch) tower too. Did not see that coming.
FullMetalx117
Member
I beg to differ. Westworld Season 4 has been the best tv since Westworld Season 1 or Game of Thrones season 4
Elysion
Banned
Really? I stopped watching after season 2, and from the trailers it looked like season 3 was mostly set in the real world, thus taking away the show’s cool setting. Is season 4 back in the themepark? And is Dolores still as unbearable as she became by the end of season 2?
TaylorSwiftFan
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Christ those Numenorian costumes looks like shit. It looks like what it is, foam.
nominedomine
Banned
The only things worse than this series are it's fans.
Amazon has to be pouring money money in astroturfing because I just can't believe the stuff alleged fans of this crap are saying and the excuses they come up with to justify this abomination.
Amazon has to be pouring money money in astroturfing because I just can't believe the stuff alleged fans of this crap are saying and the excuses they come up with to justify this abomination.
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TissueBox
Member
Not yet, it's getting better per episode. But the fact that it's almost done with the season and we're still in set up stage is kind of... unfortunate lmao.
Still not as bad as Wheel of Time ended up though (which was effectively Legend of the Seeker-tier), it's leagues above in near every department. However, not as good as HotD.
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Tams
Member
Geez, they don't half like to wank themselves off over this.
Slow-mo and in your face music yet again. YOU WILL FEEL THIS WAY.
I'm almost at the point that I can't even hate watch it anymore. This last episode was just boring and silly. The dialogue is utter shite, scenes are wasted, situations are just too absurd to believe, and pretty much nothing actually happened in this episode.
And I disagree
TissueBox
, WoT was better, if only because it clearly was going the 'Young Adult' route. This shite is trying to be all serious and 'grown-up', yet seems to have been written by your average 14-year-old. And at least WoT had Rosamund Pike going for it.
Slow-mo and in your face music yet again. YOU WILL FEEL THIS WAY.
I'm almost at the point that I can't even hate watch it anymore. This last episode was just boring and silly. The dialogue is utter shite, scenes are wasted, situations are just too absurd to believe, and pretty much nothing actually happened in this episode.
- Those in the watchtower are just a few dirty human peasants that you can't even begin to imagine would have any chance against the orcs (even before 'half' of them left).
- Numenor has ships with seemingly Tardis like storage and stores on board that very easily go boom. Not to mention the armour just magically appearing. Oh, and now a mere three ships being enough.
- Not to mention the dwarves not even bringing up how dangerous mithril is supposedly to mine. Apparently the elves are just going to get vast amounts of this rare resource.
- Galadriel is getting even more unlikeable. The fight scene wasn't as stupid as the jail one last episode, but of course it had the trope of using real swords for practice and as still bad. Oh, and the 'You should fight because my brother died and I'm very sad'.
- The map they used for the Harfoots' journey looks gorgeous, but it's so zoomed in that it's useless.
And I disagree
TissueBox
, WoT was better, if only because it clearly was going the 'Young Adult' route. This shite is trying to be all serious and 'grown-up', yet seems to have been written by your average 14-year-old. And at least WoT had Rosamund Pike going for it.
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I ha e noticed that a lot of these shows (WoT, Witcher, RoP) straight up REFUSE to orient the audience to the geography and the stakes. This is something GoT/HotD dies pretty well, they constantly refresh folks on place.
But for RoP, I'm assuming the Numenoreans will land someplace close to that tower. But will they? Do the show runners want us to think they will, or not? They show bits of a map but never two points in relationship to a common reference. Are the harfoots gonna wander into the middle of this battle? Is it even possible or are they a thousand miles away? Are we SUPPOSED to think they could cross paths? It's just so sloppy.
But for RoP, I'm assuming the Numenoreans will land someplace close to that tower. But will they? Do the show runners want us to think they will, or not? They show bits of a map but never two points in relationship to a common reference. Are the harfoots gonna wander into the middle of this battle? Is it even possible or are they a thousand miles away? Are we SUPPOSED to think they could cross paths? It's just so sloppy.
FunkMiller
Member
Witcher and RoP both suffer because they’re based on disparate short stories or appendices with no connective tissue. That’s why Witcher season 2 was better, and I fully expect season 3 to be great.
I don’t watch WoT as I don’t hate myself.
Hardensoul
Member
I want to repeat what Observed about the last 2 episodes.Geez, they don't half like to wank themselves off over this.
Slow-mo and in your face music yet again. YOU WILL FEEL THIS WAY.
I'm almost at the point that I can't even hate watch it anymore. This last episode was just boring and silly. The dialogue is utter shite, scenes are wasted, situations are just too absurd to believe, and pretty much nothing actually happened in this episode.
As others have said, Elrond and Durin are the only good part left. Or rather only ever were the good part? Though I see some potential with Gandalf, or at least who I assume is Gandalf.
- Those in the watchtower are just a few dirty human peasants that you can't even begin to imagine would have any chance against the orcs (even before 'half' of them left).
- Numenor has ships with seemingly Tardis like storage and stores on board that very easily go boom. Not to mention the armour just magically appearing. Oh, and now a mere three ships being enough.
- Not to mention the dwarves not even bringing up how dangerous mithril is supposedly to mine. Apparently the elves are just going to get vast amounts of this rare resource.
- Galadriel is getting even more unlikeable. The fight scene wasn't as stupid as the jail one last episode, but of course it had the trope of using real swords for practice and as still bad. Oh, and the 'You should fight because my brother died and I'm very sad'.
- The map they used for the Harfoots' journey looks gorgeous, but it's so zoomed in that it's useless.
And I disagree
"So the ending of episode 5 is basically same as episode 4!
Episode 4 Orcs are going to attack the Tower and Galadriel/crew are going to leave Numenor (Slow motion scene)!
Episode 5 Orcs are going to attack the Tower and Galadriel/crew are going to leave Numenor (Slow motion scene)!
Plot is reallllly mooviiinngg!!!"
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Oh I agree an Astartes movie would be crap. That is why I don’t think a film would be a good idea for Warhammer - at least not right away. You need to educate the general public on how this universe works. GoT, ignoring the last tow seasons, showed how well you can showcase the myriad plot lines, factions, and long form story telling across wide swaths of land and showcasing proper time passing. Get a good Warhammer show of a similar style and I think we could see actual films being made without having to worry about catching everyone up on every little thing.
but mostly I just want more Necrons. Gimme a Trazyn movie, damnit!
This episode really made the show go from watchable to just bad for me. It was neve good and always an insult to LOTR, but its just a slog now.
It doesn't draw me in or make me feel anything at all, which is pretty bad considering Tolkien and medieval fantasy are some of my favorite things.
It doesn't draw me in or make me feel anything at all, which is pretty bad considering Tolkien and medieval fantasy are some of my favorite things.
killatopak
Gold Member
I remember this video I watched where Peter Jackson talked about making costumes for the trilogy. He had 3 people just dedicated to linking chains for the chainmails throughout the entire production. There were thousands of chainmails made according to him.
Cyberpunkd
Member
But he originally comes as an Elf, so how does that work…..
Ulysses 31
Member
This show is loosely based on Tolkien's work.
It has words in it that are found in Tolkien, that's about it.This show is loosely based on Tolkien's work.
PaddyOCanager
Member
I would base it on a human from a rediscovered world, forced into conscription with the Astra Militarum. Follow them as they are exposed to the greater Warhammer universe.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
No were in the works was that ever said. Just that he was some mysterious being known as "The Lord of Gifts". I could see that title being mockingly given to Halbrand when they "gift" him his kingdom.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Im still liking the show, but that speech the woman gave in the tower had me laughing, especially when comparing to the epic ride of the rohirrim speech.
She literally said 2 lines and then "Whos with me!!?!?" lol.
Only for a few scenes later to have abandonded all hope...
She literally said 2 lines and then "Whos with me!!?!?" lol.
Only for a few scenes later to have abandonded all hope...
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Hari Seldon
Member
I thought episode 5 was fantastic. The show just keeps getting better for me. The Balrog scene was great. All the references to the silmarils are great, which was pretty much the most important thing to ever happen in the LoTR universe and was THE driving force for most of the conflict in the 1st age. The idea that the elves could run out of the light of the valar was interesting. It makes sense though as it sort of makes the case for why the silmarils were so damn important.
Outside of the elves, the harfoots were great as usual, but I'm not feeling the southland story.
Outside of the elves, the harfoots were great as usual, but I'm not feeling the southland story.
strange headache
Banned
F*ck me how can this show become worse by the episode?
- The exchange between Elrond and Gil-Galad
- The Korean boyband Nùmenorians
- The abominable fight scene with Galadriel
- The "dey took er jerbs" forced social commentary
- The Orcs building trenches instead of tunnels because they burn in the sun? wtf?
- The dumb as f*ck dog eat dog Harfoots
- The copy pasted CGI crowds
- The horrible dialogues
Everything about this show sucks Glaurung ass!
- The exchange between Elrond and Gil-Galad
- The Korean boyband Nùmenorians
- The abominable fight scene with Galadriel
- The "dey took er jerbs" forced social commentary
- The Orcs building trenches instead of tunnels because they burn in the sun? wtf?
- The dumb as f*ck dog eat dog Harfoots
- The copy pasted CGI crowds
- The horrible dialogues
Everything about this show sucks Glaurung ass!
Batiman
Banned
F*ck me how can this show become worse by the episode?
- The exchange between Elrond and Gil-Galad
- The Korean boyband Nùmenorians
- The abominable fight scene with Galadriel
- The "dey took er jerbs" forced social commentary
- The Orcs building trenches instead of tunnels because they burn in the sun? wtf?
- The dumb as f*ck dog eat dog Harfoots
- The copy pasted CGI crowds
- The horrible dialogues
Everything about this show sucks Glaurung ass!
Well you keep watching it. So it’s gotta like it somewhat no? When people don’t like a show they usually just don’t watch it. This mindset confuses me. Why waste your time doing/watching something you don’t enjoy? Doesn’t sound fun. Who would notice the cgi crowd besides someone staring at stills for complaining purposes?
Gonna watch episode 5 tonight. Haven’t had time. Been catching up on HOD with the wife. Loving both shows so far despite a few criticisms with both. What a great time for fantasy shows. Sucks that wheel of time didn’t really deliver, but I think they can still redeem it. Seems like covid gave them a hard time during filming
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Kacho
Gold Member
F*ck me how can this show become worse by the episode?
- The exchange between Elrond and Gil-Galad
- The Korean boyband Nùmenorians
- The abominable fight scene with Galadriel
- The "dey took er jerbs" forced social commentary
- The Orcs building trenches instead of tunnels because they burn in the sun? wtf?
- The dumb as f*ck dog eat dog Harfoots
- The copy pasted CGI crowds
- The horrible dialogues
Everything about this show sucks Glaurung ass!
What the hell is that fight choreography? Looks like a CW show. Can’t believe they spent a billion dollars and that’s the best they could do.
Sounds to me like you didn't like Wheel of Time. Why not take your own advice and stop watching it?
We WANT these shows to succeed. Giving feedback on an open public forum is how show runners learn to correct mistakes. This isn't rocket science. Guarantee someone reading this right now is filtering it for dissimination to the writing team for next season.
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CW has done a lot better, for that matter. On occasion.
You don't need a billion dollars or even a million dollars. You just need to give a damn about what you're creating.
balls of snow
Member
The thing I don't get is that due to the multiple story lines each one is only like 2 hours, so for all that time filming they couldn't do better choreography? All the galadriel actress dies is a fight scene, green screen action, or basically monologues. Seems like she should have the time.
Batiman
Banned
I didn’t hate it. If I did then I wouldn’t watch it. Just disappointing.
Kacho
Gold Member
Just goes to show how important all aspects of a production are and, IMO, we often take these things for granted. Like there is an assumed level of quality we expect and when they miss the mark it really sticks out.
I thought some of fights in the last few seasons of GoT were a little hokey, but they are art compared to the clip above and Galadriel’s fight with the snow troll.
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Hari Seldon
Member
Nothing in rings of power was as ridiculous as when dr who stormed a beach by himself. Nothing.
Batiman
Banned
I loved the scene visually. But yeah didn’t make much sense from either side. Watching season one of game of thrones last week and I forgot how bad the Syrio forel fight was. The man was knocking fully armoured men with wood swords. Just bonking them on the helmet. I always wish he returned.
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Batiman
Banned
You tripped me out for a sec until I scrolled down…..He did....
In my head Canon at least.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I think a lot of people including myself are starting to lose interest in hate watching this show. Personally, now, it’s just making me angry at how bad it is. But I enjoy the videos taking the piss out of it. I think you have to be dumb as a bag of rocks to think that this show is good or even decent.
PaddyOCanager
Member
I was committed to watching the whole season, but I'm jumping ship now. This show is terrible.
Hardensoul
Member
F*ck me how can this show become worse by the episode?
- The exchange between Elrond and Gil-Galad
- The Korean boyband Nùmenorians
- The abominable fight scene with Galadriel
- The "dey took er jerbs" forced social commentary
- The Orcs building trenches instead of tunnels because they burn in the sun? wtf?
- The dumb as f*ck dog eat dog Harfoots
- The copy pasted CGI crowds
- The horrible dialogues
Everything about this show sucks Glaurung ass!
Just saw HoD episode 6. The kids sparring in that episode is better choreographed and more believable than either Galadriel fights in jail and the training!
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Yea, as pointed out, what started out as impeccable work from the wardrobe department kind of sputtered in the mud with the Numenoreans. For the films they hired actual armorers and leather workers, etc. Here with Amazon budget they seemed to have been willing to skimp, for some bizarre reason, here.
This fucking show. My god, I hope Bezos has a change of heart and guts the creative crew for season two and hires people capable of righting this ship.
This fucking show. My god, I hope Bezos has a change of heart and guts the creative crew for season two and hires people capable of righting this ship.
Cyberpunkd
Member
Yes, but I cannot imagine Elves going: “Hmmm, he is not an Elf and we have no idea what creature he is, but no matter, epic loot inc”.
pramod
Banned
The more I think about the show the more frustrating it is. It has so many issues right now, pacing, writing, etc...but I think the biggest one is that we've been forced to sit thru 5 hours so far of a show with no clear villain or threat, we only have vague signs that a bad guy or bad things are coming, but we don't know who or how or where.
In LOTR even though you never see Sauron, but you can see his armies, his servants, and Saruman who is in liege with him. In this show we only have Adar, who we don't even know if he's actually a villain or not. So far he doesn't seem any more villainous than some of those mean Harfoots.
I think if they don't reveal Sauron in the next few episodes most people would give up on this show.
In LOTR even though you never see Sauron, but you can see his armies, his servants, and Saruman who is in liege with him. In this show we only have Adar, who we don't even know if he's actually a villain or not. So far he doesn't seem any more villainous than some of those mean Harfoots.
I think if they don't reveal Sauron in the next few episodes most people would give up on this show.
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The biggest problem is there is no tension whatsoever. I don not care what happens to anyone, or what the outcome is, I just want something to happen.
There's an army marching to war apparently, but it feels as impactful as a badly advertised larping event.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Gil-Galad and Galadriel both rejected him for that very reason. They didn't trust him. However Celebrimbor was fooled, believing that he was a Maiar emissary of Aule.
Tams
Member
It's called hate watching, mate.
But even this is wearing that thin now. Think I might just watch the Charlie Hopkinson reaction videos.
Hardensoul
Member
It also gives me justification to trash talk the show with my friend/coworker who happens to like the show! He can’t say “but you haven’t watched the show”!
Edit: We both happen to like HoD!
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AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
The amount of money they spent on stuff and then skimped on the armor.
Hardensoul
Member
I really don’t know how this is 50 mill per episode! The costumes in HoD looked much better and that’s like 1/2 the budget 25 mill? per episode!
Edit: They didn’t even have enough extras for town crowds! They had to copy/paste CGI crowds!
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It's a design choice, not a money issue.
Like their over the belly-button armor with a weird chest bump, it's just for design, as it exposes a key place to slice you.