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[Hitoribhoshi]

True, they did add NTSC-U to the JP game on demand version of DeathSmilesIIX available on the us marketplace (still no sign of it in europe though...)

And yes, Revolver360 is great and quite original with it's gameplay mechanics

 

[shintoki]

I'm thinking about shelling out big bucks for Muchi Muchi Pork/ Pink Sweets bundle as I don't see it getting any cheaper, but it seems that the "Matsuri" dlc was only in a limited number of copies? So it is now impossible to get it?

edit: Found one on fleabay for 160 bucks that supposedly includes the code. So $30-$40 bucks pricier than usual. Worth it?

edit 2: oh found it for $140...now that's tempting.

You mean the DLC card in it goes for 30-40$ more?

:O

 

[sixteen-bit]

You mean the DLC card in it goes for 30-40$ more?

:O

If that's the case, I probably shouldn't have redeemed mine, lol.

 

[Ra1den]

You mean the DLC card in it goes for 30-40$ more?

:O

It seems to vary from $20-$40 more. This limited chance DLC stuff really irks me.

 

[MjFrancis]

That's ridiculous about the DLC card. I feel a little bad for hoarding one in my unopened copy now.

Premium, time-sensitive or limited quantity DLC is complete bullshit.

 

[Jharp]

ESPGaluda II HD?

Definitely ESPGaluda II

Consider it bought. Heard a lot of good stuff from the DGR guys.

 

[Brobzoid]

That's ridiculous about the DLC card. I feel a little bad for hoarding one in my unopened copy now.

Premium, time-sensitive or limited quantity DLC is complete bullshit.

Japanese companies seem to take pride in poor business decisions.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Japanese companies seem to take pride in poor business decisions.

Ain't that the truth :/

 

[Noisepurge]

What's the best Cave release for iPad?

Espgaluda 2 if you have an iPad 2. I only have an iPad 1 so the game wont run at all :/ goddamn apple specs

So far i've found DoDonPachi Resurrection to be the most fun on an iPad, even though its an iPhone game.

 

[0 HP]

Whats the best Cave game for 360 besides Guwange? DoDonPachi Black Label? I don't mind importing.

I've only played Treasure shmups seriously before so a more accessible game might be nice. I didn't have any problems at all with Radiant Silvergun though, so if its $100+ to import, I'd rather just start with their best game.

Thanks

 

[sixteen-bit]

Whats the best Cave game for 360

Mushi Futari

 

[Jockel]

If accessability is a factor, don't go for Muchi Muchi Pork / Pink Sweets.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label is a pretty good place to start, the music is incredibly awesome and the Ketsuipachi Arrange is loads of fun.
Mushihimesama Futari (Don't be a cheapskate, buy the Black Label DLC too) is also a really good introduction to Cave, as is Deathsmiles.
The latter being pretty easy to 1cc, so another good starting point.

 

[To Far Away Times]

Whats the best Cave game for 360 besides Guwange? DoDonPachi Black Label? I don't mind importing.

I've only played Treasure shmups seriously before so a more accessible game might be nice. I didn't have any problems at all with Radiant Silvergun though, so if its $100+ to import, I'd rather just start with their best game.

Thanks

Mushi Futari has a greatest hits re-release, is region free, and under $40. My favorite shmup ever. The Black Label DLC is really nice too.

Deathsmiles has been released in every region and is really good too if you don't mind the lolis. It should be very affordable now.

DoDonPachi Daioujou is an awesome game, I've never played the 360 port, but I'd assume it contains all the same awesomeness (and soul crushing difficulty). Supposedly the arrange modes are pretty good in this one. Japan only.

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu/Resurrection is good but not great. I'd recommend other games in the series over this one.

Deathsmiles IIX is available region free in the U.S. on Games on Demand and has a region locked Japanese disc release. Not too crazy over this one, the presentation isn't as good as the first game and I'm not crazy over the stage layouts. Scoring system is probably a little better than the original though.

EspGaluda II I haven't really gotten into too much, but its definitely a well made game. Standard Edition is region free, special edition is region locked.

 

[therapist]

I +1 on Mushihimesama.

I just ordered it off play-asis ~ 2 weeks ago , received it yesterday.

I had played through it before multiple times as well.

For 40$ , just buy it , its seriously my favorite shmup ever aside from Radiant Silvergun.

For DLC id say skip deathsmiles 2 , i have it, its ok but not great - and spend your cash on Ikaruga and Radiant silvergun , comes out to about same price and you get 2 better games.

Cheers

 

[0 HP]

Mushi Futari

If accessability is a factor, don't go for Muchi Muchi Pork / Pink Sweets.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label is a pretty good place to start, the music is incredibly awesome and the Ketsuipachi Arrange is loads of fun.
Mushihimesama Futari (Don't be a cheapskate, buy the Black Label DLC too) is also a really good introduction to Cave, as is Deathsmiles.
The latter being pretty easy to 1cc, so another good starting point.

Mushi Futari has a greatest hits re-release, is region free, and under $40. My favorite shmup ever. The Black Label DLC is really nice too.

Deathsmiles has been released in every region and is really good too if you don't mind the lolis. It should be very affordable now.

DoDonPachi Daioujou is an awesome game, I've never played the 360 port, but I'd assume it contains all the same awesomeness (and soul crushing difficulty). Supposedly the arrange modes are pretty good in this one. Japan only.

DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu/Resurrection is good but not great. I'd recommend other games in the series over this one.

Deathsmiles IIX is available region free in the U.S. on Games on Demand and has a region locked Japanese disc release. Not too crazy over this one, the presentation isn't as good as the first game and I'm not crazy over the stage layouts. Scoring system is probably a little better than the original though.

EspGaluda II I haven't really gotten into too much, but its definitely a well made game. Standard Edition is region free, special edition is region locked.

I +1 on Mushihimesama.

I just ordered it off play-asis ~ 2 weeks ago , received it yesterday.

I had played through it before multiple times as well.

For 40$ , just buy it , its seriously my favorite shmup ever aside from Radiant Silvergun.

For DLC id say skip deathsmiles 2 , i have it, its ok but not great - and spend your cash on Ikaruga and Radiant silvergun , comes out to about same price and you get 2 better games.

Cheers

Awesome, thank you.

I'm going to get Mushi Futara 1.5 off Amazon in a minute. I have Prime so I should get it before the weekend: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004BH5R9W/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Also, could you guys recommend an arcade stick? I might as well get one while I'm at it.

Thanks again

edit: just saw the arcade stick thread now, nvm

 

[Hitoribhoshi]

I would have said Futari too, but Espgaluda II BL is my second favorite (also region free) but "it's" more difficult than futari.

as for the arcade stick, any stick with seimitsu parts, I guess. (sanwa feels "too loose" for shmups imho)

 

[Zeth]

I'm shopping for 360 Cave games, need some help. Can somebody remind me which ones will play in my US 360?

I'm pretty sure Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 and EspII Black Label are fine, but is there any Dodonpachi I can get to play? Have Deathsmiles/2x.

Was gonna order from play-asia unless someone has a suggestion

 

[Llyranor]

Also works for North America: Dodonpachi Resurrection PAL, Guwange XBLA, Mushi/Pink Sweets

For ESP2, get the normal, NOT limited (which is not region-free), version.

 

[Tain]

I'm shopping for 360 Cave games, need some help. Can somebody remind me which ones will play in my US 360?

I'm pretty sure Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 and EspII Black Label are fine, but is there any Dodonpachi I can get to play? Have Deathsmiles/2x.

Was gonna order from play-asia unless someone has a suggestion

Mushi Futari is fine. Espgaluda II Black Label is fine provided it's not the LE. Guwange (XBLA) is fine. Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets (both normal and LE) are fine. DoDonPachi Resurrection (European release) is fine, but you'll need to make a European Live account for DLC.

Basically, the games you can't play are the 5pb ports (Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label Extra, Ketsui Kizuna Jigoku Tachi Extra), the Japanese disc releases of Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles IIX, and Akai Katana.

 

[Brobzoid]

Akai Katana is getting a Euro release this year so it's all good :>

 

[Ra1den]

My copy of DDP resurrection finally arrived. Many tears of joy have already been shed.

 

[Chiaroscuro]

Windows Phone love!

DoDonPachi Maximum achievements spotted by the folks at xbox360achievements.org: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/dodonpachi-maximum/achievements/

So the game release should be soon.

 

[sixteen-bit]

What do you think Maximum will be based on?

 

[GeekyDad]

...Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets (both normal and LE) are fine. ...

Would love to see that one come to iOS. Looks like Skittles in shmup form.

 

[danmaku]

What do you think Maximum will be based on?

It's probably the "Dodonpachi Saidai Oujou" Cave trademarked a while ago.

http://www.cave-stg.com/?p=1790

Judging by the achievement pics it looks like a mix of the previous games. The first boss is the first elemental daughter from Daifukkatsu, the other ones seems taken from the older DDP games. Isn't "golden disaster" the stage 5 boss in DOJ (the one you fight before Hibachi)?

 

[sixteen-bit]

Wow, DoDon Greatest Hits? That's going to be weird.

 

[iconoclast]

The achievement for clearing stage 3 is called "Defensive Line", which is the title of the stage 4 theme from Ketsui, and the achievement for no missing stage 3 is called "Cinderella Amber", which is the name of the stage 4 boss from Ketsui. So that's kinda weird.

I think Byakko and Seiryu are the names of the stage 2 and 4 bosses from Daioujou as well.

 

[Tain]

I'm getting anxious for the next set of announcements.

out with it already auuugh

 

[BOTEC]

So apparently Cave released an update to Bug Princess on iOS (ver. 1.0.1) that was to address the crashing issues and long load times. It looks like that patched borked things even further, and now the game fails to load after the update. The game's description even warns people not to update until Cave fixes the problem in a future patch. New gen gaming. Woop! *twirls finger*

I hope the new patch removes the shit graphics filter. I bet that's responsible for the performance issues on iPad. Game runs super smooth on iPod (4th gen), which has the same processor and RAM as iPad 1.

 

[GeekyDad]

Yeah, the App Store rating for Bug Princess dropped like 2 1/2 stars since the update. I'm pretty sure they're working on that motherfucker day and night. I was just about to add the game to my collection, too. I'll gladly wait for the fix.

 

[Tain]

Looks like nobody mentioned it, but apparently Akai Katana for the Vita was a mistranslation.

http://www.cave-stg.com/forum/index.php?topic=1502.msg27968#msg27968

I'll still probably get one for Shinobido 2...

 

[Ra1den]

nvm

 

[GeekyDad]

Not sure if old news, but according to this report, Cave is refocusing their resources away from hardcore games and into social gaming.

 

[BOTEC]

Not sure if old news, but according to this report, Cave is refocusing their resources away from hardcore games and into social gaming.

It's a new announcement, but pretty old news in the sense that Cave has been making mobile/social/casual games since forever to help pay the bills while two dudes sit in a corner programming bullet patterns. This is not the doomsday scenario people (would like to) think it is. At worst it means one arcade release per year, and no internal home ports.

 

[adversesolutions]

Ctrl+f Iconoclast in GOTY thread...

 

[Tain]

It's a new announcement, but pretty old news in the sense that Cave has been making mobile/social/casual games since forever to help pay the bills while two dudes sit in a corner programming bullet patterns. This is not the doomsday scenario people (would like to) think it is. At worst it means one arcade release per year, and no internal home ports.

I don't buy "one arcade release per year" at all. How do you figure that, exactly?

 

[BOTEC]

I don't buy "one arcade release per year" at all. How do you figure that, exactly?

I generally meant "slowing down production." My thinking of Cave pumping out multiple arcade titles per year may be left over from 2006. So the new production schedule may be "one arcade game every two years" or some such.

 

[HitokiriNate85]

I'm not sure if any of you made it to Magfest last week or not, but it was my first year going and it was a bit of Cave heaven. For those of you who don't know, Magfest is a four-day music and gaming festival. This year it was held in the National Harbor in D.C. They set up an Arcade every year, and this year there were probably 100 or so cabinets to play on. There was basically a wall of Cave and other few other shooters, with some games being swapped for other boards throughout the weekend. Keep in mind that these are all cabinets. I got to play:

Ibara
Muchi Muchi Pork - weird and fun. So much shit on screen.
Ketsui - really difficult after the first few stages
DDP Resurrection - my first DDP game and I still don't really understand the different releases of this game. I only knew because I saw 'resurrection' listed in the corner of the menu.
Mushi Futari BL
Akai Katana - This was in a cabinet but definitely running off of a 360. Holy shit this game is so awesome. The patterns are really great and the game just really jived with my brain. Can't wait for the Euro release. Please play on US consoles.

I also played just a few stages of some Cave game I wasn't able to identify. I thought it was Ketsui when I saw it, but then I played Ketsui the next day, so I don't know what the hell it was. You played as a helicopter(vert. scroll). Help?

Guwange was also on one of the rotating cabinets, but I didn't get the chance to play at all. Dangun Feveron was also on one of the days, but my brain saw Fever S.O.S and just didn't comprehend what it was. Wish I had been able to try it. So was Progear.

Ibara was a blast. Really enjoyed getting to try that out. Liked everything about it, especially the shot-change option. Very cool. I wish the PS2 release wasn't so damn expensive. Is that the only release? I'd love to play it some more.

Mushi Futari didn't catch me off guard, but whatever stick set-up was on the cabinet did. I usually play with a 360 HRAP with a Sanwa stick(it's borrowed from a friend and I'm not sure exactly what stick it is), but the responsiveness of the stick on this cabinet was amazing. So much better than what I'm used to. I wish I knew what it was.

 

[adversesolutions]

Stick is probably a Seimitsu, although real elites only roll with Sigma Raijins.

Recently I've had a bit of a soft spot for Ibara as well. It's on the list of CAVE shooters I still haven't beaten and would one day love to go back and bomb my way to victory.

Only other CAVE shooter with a helicopter in it is Dodonpachi IIRC.

 

[BOTEC]

I'm not sure if any of you made it to Magfest last week or not, but it was my first year going and it was a bit of Cave heaven. For those of you who don't know, Magfest is a four-day music and gaming festival. This year it was held in the National Harbor in D.C. They set up an Arcade every year, and this year there were probably 100 or so cabinets to play on. There was basically a wall of Cave and other few other shooters, with some games being swapped for other boards throughout the weekend. Keep in mind that these are all cabinets. I got to play:

Ibara
Muchi Muchi Pork - weird and fun. So much shit on screen.
Ketsui - really difficult after the first few stages
DDP Resurrection - my first DDP game and I still don't really understand the different releases of this game. I only knew because I saw 'resurrection' listed in the corner of the menu.
Mushi Futari BL
Akai Katana - This was in a cabinet but definitely running off of a 360. Holy shit this game is so awesome. The patterns are really great and the game just really jived with my brain. Can't wait for the Euro release. Please play on US consoles.

I also played just a few stages of some Cave game I wasn't able to identify. I thought it was Ketsui when I saw it, but then I played Ketsui the next day, so I don't know what the hell it was. You played as a helicopter(vert. scroll). Help?

Guwange was also on one of the rotating cabinets, but I didn't get the chance to play at all. Dangun Feveron was also on one of the days, but my brain saw Fever S.O.S and just didn't comprehend what it was. Wish I had been able to try it. So was Progear.

Ibara was a blast. Really enjoyed getting to try that out. Liked everything about it, especially the shot-change option. Very cool. I wish the PS2 release wasn't so damn expensive. Is that the only release? I'd love to play it some more.

Mushi Futari didn't catch me off guard, but whatever stick set-up was on the cabinet did. I usually play with a 360 HRAP with a Sanwa stick(it's borrowed from a friend and I'm not sure exactly what stick it is), but the responsiveness of the stick on this cabinet was amazing. So much better than what I'm used to. I wish I knew what it was.

Ironically, this so far has been the most compelling reason for attending MAGfest. Although you'll have to forgive me if I don't jump at the chance to pay $40+hotel+travel expenses for the chance to publicly humiliate myself at the controls of a Cave arcade cab. Maybe if they invite Heavy Metal Raiden I'd consider it.

 

[Zeth]

What kinds of sticks do you guys use for 360? I have an SF4 fightstick I recently upgraded with a Sanwa stick and buttons. I'm assuming shmuppers prefer a different style gate? I'm guessing it will work well enough to start, haven't gotten any of my Cave games besides the ones available in the US yet.

 

[BOTEC]

What kinds of sticks do you guys use for 360? I have an SF4 fightstick I recently upgraded with a Sanwa stick and buttons. I'm assuming shmuppers prefer a different style gate? I'm guessing it will work well enough to start, haven't gotten any of my Cave games besides the ones available in the US yet.

I don't think the gate makes as big of an impact for shooters. Although I guess shorter diagonal throws would be beneficial to some. That said, all my sticks are multi-use and have square gates. You would probably want to swap out that stick again for a Seimitsu. The LS-32-01 gets much love (and some inexplicable hate for some reason).

 

[HitokiriNate85]

What kinds of sticks do you guys use for 360? I have an SF4 fightstick I recently upgraded with a Sanwa stick and buttons. I'm assuming shmuppers prefer a different style gate? I'm guessing it will work well enough to start, haven't gotten any of my Cave games besides the ones available in the US yet.

I'd like to do the same with the 360 fightstick I have. Was there a particular guide you used? I've never done any stick mods before.

 

[gunstarhero]

What kinds of sticks do you guys use for 360? I have an SF4 fightstick I recently upgraded with a Sanwa stick and buttons. I'm assuming shmuppers prefer a different style gate? I'm guessing it will work well enough to start, haven't gotten any of my Cave games besides the ones available in the US yet.

I use a Hori Viewlix - swapped with all Seimitsu parts (LS32 and buttons) - with an 8-gate.

Stick-wise, you could either go with the 32 or 56 - both are great for shooters.

However I would recommend going with the 8 gate, and the Seimitsu buttons. The 8 gate gives you a better feel all around, and the buttons are extremely light to the touch - something you'll appreciate when you need to panic bomb.

 

[Zeth]

I'd like to do the same with the 360 fightstick I have. Was there a particular guide you used? I've never done any stick mods before.

Don't remember where I found the guide, but I'm sure it's on shoryuken.com and easily googled. If you can use a screwdriver, plug, and unplug things, it's cake. Super super easy.

I'm definitely going to get 8 gate, and most likely Seimitsu buttons, since my fighting game experiment has pretty much failed haha

 

[Ra1den]

I'm so close to pulling the trigger and buying Pink Sweets/MMP, but I'm starting to wonder if they are my thing after all. I'm not really into Yagawa stuff other than Ibara's arrange mode which I love. I much prefer Ikeda's style. I'm currently in love with Daifukkatsu and have got Galuda 2, Futari 1.5, and Deathsmiles on the backburner...

 

[Tain]

I'm so close to pulling the trigger and buying Pink Sweets/MMP, but I'm starting to wonder if they are my thing after all. I'm not really into Yagawa stuff other than Ibara's arrange mode which I love. I much prefer Ikeda's style. I'm currently in love with Daifukkatsu and have got Galuda 2, Futari 1.5, and Deathsmiles on the backburner...

MMP is actually not nearly as nasty-cryptic as Yagawa's other games. Pink Sweets is weird as shit, though, for sure.

 

[STG!]

One (or two) less stupid death(s) on Original, then I think I'm done with this mode.

 

[iconoclast]

Started playing Death Smiles 2 again, beat my old highscore with 1,104,375,358 (ranked #6 overall). I made a bunch of mistakes here and there (some major ones and lots of minor), but I don't think there's a ton of room left for improvement. I know the arcade WR is 2 billion, but I think scores anywhere near that are literally impossible on the 360 port. Oh well.

I also uploaded the replay if anyone wants to check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyc38MnFhYQ

 

[SOME-MIST]

DoDonPachi Daioujou is an awesome game, I've never played the 360 port, but I'd assume it contains all the same awesomeness (and soul crushing difficulty). Supposedly the arrange modes are pretty good in this one. Japan only.

daioujou is a lot of fun, but it's disappointing that there's no death label mode in it. I haven't sunk much time into the arrange mode, but black label and white label are very addicting.

you forgot to list one of my personal favorites: Ketsui !! another region-locked game, but the lock-on system is among my favorite.