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Looks shitty? Definitely get it, one of the best releases CAVE has put out.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I mean, I will just because I'm a Cave whore and have all their other shit on the 360, so I might as well complete the collection... but the aesthetics are really a turn-off for me. I'm much more a fan of say... Ketsui's art-style and music.
sounds like it.
Believe me, my first reactions were of a similar nature.
But they turned around big-time when I started getting into the the flow of the games, especially Muchi Muchi Pink.
Very different from other shooters, but soooooooooooo much fun!
Be sure to try and get a copy with the Matsuri code included as it's an absolute blast to play as well.
Oh only one S, that explains why I couldn't find much on it searching earlier...Google kept insisting that I mistyped "Jessica" and threw in Jessica Alba and some porn stars into my results.
The pricing model (if this is accurate) is pretty interesting:
http://dreamcancel.com/forum/index.php?topic=776.0;wap2
HitokiriNate85
Member
This news just sucks.
I really hope RSG considers another Cave release. They'd probably want to go for something that only has a region-locked release. A Ketsui release would be a crowd pleaser, I bet. Or Mushihimesama. Playing Stage 3 on a TV would be awesome.
I hope they can pull through somehow, but I can't honestly imagine any factors getting better for them.
Why did Cave stop doing region-free releases, anyway? After Deathsmiles and the move to GoD for DS2, I can only imagine region-free retail releases being more profitable for them.
I really hope RSG considers another Cave release. They'd probably want to go for something that only has a region-locked release. A Ketsui release would be a crowd pleaser, I bet. Or Mushihimesama. Playing Stage 3 on a TV would be awesome.
I hope they can pull through somehow, but I can't honestly imagine any factors getting better for them.
Why did Cave stop doing region-free releases, anyway? After Deathsmiles and the move to GoD for DS2, I can only imagine region-free retail releases being more profitable for them.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that it costs a company extra to release something that's region free. Such is the iron-clad resolve of Microsoft.
hikarutilmitt
Member
I've gone on rants before about how many of the "pro-consumer" choices MS made with the 360 were also "anti-niche publisher" (or to a more subtle degree, anti-innovation) with things like multi-region games, 50k minimum print runs and mandatory online elements.
This, simply, unfortunately, helps to prove my point. I'm not saying that 360 porting is everything to do with Cave seemingly going under, but it certainly doesn't help.
adversesolutions
Member
Yeah it's a very good point. CAVE would have had a much easier time getting their games overseas if publishers that picked them up didn't have to worry about high-water minimum print runs. Hell they might have even been able to set up shop and do it themselves.
In that sense the 360 was a honey pot for obscure Japanese developers: money hats and some promotion help brought them in, but region-locking and mandatory minimums guaranteed they could not make much forward progress in the overseas market despite the strong presence of the 360 in the west. While there was no way Steins Gate, Senko no Rondo etc. were going to be huge hits they probably could have made their money back on localizations and at least started something without such high print runs.
This issue is probably something MS is not conscious of us as well. They are the 500 pound gorilla sitting on these companies, blissfully unaware.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
If nothing else, it makes me hope that there's some system next-gen that isn't quite so bullshit-prone. Microsoft's probably out, because they're retarded. Sony will probably have some sort of policy in place that'll make it impracticable to release anything remotely off-color. Nintendo... well, how draconian are their tactics with retail games? I know they fucking suck for eShop stuff, but maybe they're better with physical releases.
I dunno... it's just frustrating that platform holders put arbitrary policies in place that serve primarily to hinder those producing anything that's not mainstream. Because perhaps more than ever, that's the most interesting stuff coming out these days :-/
StarCreator
Member
Better hope Valve actually does enter the gaming console business.
Also for those interested, a translation of the recent Famitsu interview with Cave has been posted on Shmups.
iconoclast
Member
^ The most important piece of information to come out over these last few days.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Oh FFS
She's straddling a giant bug. That bug gets hit by a bullet it's gonna explode. Freaking bugs guts are going to get everywhere.
I'm gonna be sick.
She's straddling a giant bug. That bug gets hit by a bullet it's gonna explode. Freaking bugs guts are going to get everywhere.
I'm gonna be sick.
CrazyArcadia
Member
Wait, does that mean it will be their last package release for 360 or their last package release ever? Did the interview specify this? I love their packaging and artworks and I always wished they'd do PS3 games, no regional lock and I kinda prefer playing on PS3... but no package releases anymore would make me sad :/ (and I play their iOS-games, too, but I buy those that I can get as retail versions since... as I said, I love their packaging)
But argh, grave news all around. Hope they pull through nicely. I only got into CAVE games last year and still have old classics to play, but nevertheless I wouldn't want them to stop making bullet hell...
Fuck this. They really are dead huh.
Hopefully Mushi HD gets localized.
fuck that. i wish.
charlequin
Banned
Assuming there's not some subtle ironic element I'm missing here... how are any of these things pro-consumer?
StarCreator
Member
Why would you download the DLC to a console that can't play the game?
You can download DLC to any console you like, so long as it is available on your gamertag's marketplace. From there, any gamertag's on that first console can use it, even when offline. The downloading gamertag can also use the DLC on any other console, but it must be connected to Live to do so.
I can't recall if Futari 1.01 is available in all marketplaces, but all other games will require you to use a Japanese gamertag.
twentytwo22
Member
No more package releases...
Looks like it's time to spring for PS2 Ibara...
BTW, an ode to Cave and how I feel:
Mushihimesama HD can join next week as a single tear
Looks like it's time to spring for PS2 Ibara...
BTW, an ode to Cave and how I feel:
Mushihimesama HD can join next week as a single tear
No more package releases...
Looks like it's time to spring for PS2 Ibara...
Prepare for your wallet to face a blissful death
Laziness on my part. I'd rather not have to hook up my JPN 360.
And I didn't know if the DLC content was user specific or system specific.
So I should use the download codes on my JPN system for the region locked stuff if I want to play it offline, yes?
What type of hoops will I need to jump through to make a JPN gamer tag then...?
I'm kicking myself for not doing this years ago.
NM: I think I've figured out most of my questions.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Well, the 50k print run thing I assume was specifically for MS to milk more money from publishers. But things like mandatory online features is touted as a pro-consumer requirement and being region free as an option is pro consumer on the surface, but the required fees to do so are anti-publisher. There are a number of things that are frequently touted as being pro-consumer by MS and the consumers in question that can make it harder for smaller pubs to get a product out there and keep costs down when doing so. There are restrictions on Live with regards to content, possibly pricing and the known patch restrictions that certainly don't help.
I'm probably just rambling like an old fart, but there are stories about how difficult and controlling MS is with publishers while always telling consumers how good they (supposedly) have it.
Nintendo's eShop sounds like it's...actually ok now (well at least in Japan, I'm guessing rating and crap for other regions is still a bitch). Desperation has forced them to get with the times, I wouldn't necessarily rule them out.
adversesolutions
Member
Last CAVE shop Ustream starting in one hour, 8 p.m. JPN time.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cave-goods
First hour will be Asada talking about Mushi 1.5, second hour will be the CAVE shop staff saying goodbye.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cave-goods
First hour will be Asada talking about Mushi 1.5, second hour will be the CAVE shop staff saying goodbye.
adversesolutions
Member
Not going to sum up everything, but at the very end of the UST broadcast, Asada mentioned that he has to go somewhere for a broadcast soon and said something about a passport.
People were speculating about E3 in the chat.
People were speculating about E3 in the chat.
haha thanks. my Reco figures confirmed that as well.
No Espgaluda II faceplate?No more package releases...
Looks like it's time to spring for PS2 Ibara...
BTW, an ode to Cave and how I feel:
Mushihimesama HD can join next week as a single tear
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I miss mine. ;~;
goddamn theives.
oh snap,
I love it, best faceplate design. Too bad it's in storage now cuz I'm using a Slim 360.InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
oh snap,
Was going to reprint the artwork on a skin for whenever I replace my 360, but all that is online is that tiny sample image they showed before some were printed. If someone could find a high res version of the faceplate artwork I'd be happy as hell.
LeadenStride
Member
This news makes me sad. I just joined the cave party a year ago with the release of Deathsmiles in Europe. On the other hand I've a lot of catching up to do.
I wonder if Saidaioujou will ever get ported..
I wonder if Saidaioujou will ever get ported..
I have a thing for BBWs, anime and bullet-hell. No idea why the hell I don't have Muchi Muchi yet
HitokiriNate85
Member
I have a thing for BBWs, anime and bullet-hell. No idea why the hell I don't have Muchi Muchi yet
Because it's pricey. :-/
I got to play it on a cabinet at Magfest this year and it was a blast. I was really hoping the double pack would get a reprint, but that doesn't look like it'll ever happen now. Might have to just bite the bullet.
Well at least those not playable in MAME. Ibara and SOJ are probably the only games that can't be played without a PCB. (Not counting special versions.) Oh and there's the PS2 port of Ibara too.
I doubt it's gonna get any cheaper, I'd grab it while it's still available at a reasonable price.
Pink Pork Pack is vital.
You can even play Ibara with configurably-accurate slowdown through certain unofficial MAME builds.
Not ideal, but undoubtedly better than the PS2 version.
You can even play Ibara with configurably-accurate slowdown through certain unofficial MAME builds.
Not ideal, but undoubtedly better than the PS2 version.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I still wanna hope they wise up and finish what they started... with the following packs!
Esprade & Espgaluda
Donpachi & Dodonpachi
Dangun Feveron & Progear no Arashi
Ibara & Ibara Kuro
I would buy all of those for 10,000 yen each.
Unfortunate that it's probably not going to happen, because buying PCBs sucks
Though at least Donpachi and Espgaluda got excellent ports (Donpachi's sound quality on PS1, in particular, is worlds better than the PCB.)
But really, how cool would it be if the 360 housed the complete catalog of Cave games (well, the ones worth giving a fuck about)?
Esprade & Espgaluda
Donpachi & Dodonpachi
Dangun Feveron & Progear no Arashi
Ibara & Ibara Kuro
I would buy all of those for 10,000 yen each.
Unfortunate that it's probably not going to happen, because buying PCBs sucks
Though at least Donpachi and Espgaluda got excellent ports (Donpachi's sound quality on PS1, in particular, is worlds better than the PCB.)
But really, how cool would it be if the 360 housed the complete catalog of Cave games (well, the ones worth giving a fuck about)?
Chacranajxy,
How do PCBs work with the XRGB/Flamemeister? Like, if I output the PCB through a supergun via RGB I can connect it to the Upscaler then pipe it through my HDTV? Would not it be rotated on the side? There is no option to format it in the middle of the 16/9 is there? Or do I have to rotate the monitor?
Also, some Cave questions for anybody who can answer.
1) Why does Donpachi repeat the same music for stage 1 and 2? Or is that a quirk of the PS1 port?
2) In the second stage of Dodonpachi, why do plants start growing in the blown up building when you laser over it?
How do PCBs work with the XRGB/Flamemeister? Like, if I output the PCB through a supergun via RGB I can connect it to the Upscaler then pipe it through my HDTV? Would not it be rotated on the side? There is no option to format it in the middle of the 16/9 is there? Or do I have to rotate the monitor?
Also, some Cave questions for anybody who can answer.
1) Why does Donpachi repeat the same music for stage 1 and 2? Or is that a quirk of the PS1 port?
2) In the second stage of Dodonpachi, why do plants start growing in the blown up building when you laser over it?
JustAnotherOtaku
Member
Damn, now you have me wanting Esprade again
Seriously though, Espgaluda is still my favourite Cave game and to be able to play it again in HD (with or without any other game included) would be a dream. Still one of my all-time favourite game OSTs.
Let's try this.
1. Mushi Futari 1.5
2. DoDonPachi DOJ
3. Pink Sweets 1.01
4. Akai Katana Shin
5. EspGaluda II
I love them all though. The only game I didn't enjoy that much was Dangun Feveron, should give that game a little more playtime.