andthebeatgoeson
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TheDuce22 said:
Haha, Merril was so funny.
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Haha, Merril was so funny.
Cubsfan23 said:
I don't know man 7 is a lot of points to be giving, should have bet on them when they were fucking underdogs to the Colts
lol) or today when imo it was pretty clear they were going to win and cover the 3 points or whatever they wound up giving.I think the line will be wacky until we know about TO's condition, if he doesn't play I wouldn't be surprised to see it around 10-11 (which is crazy, but hey), if he does maybe 5-6.
SickBoy said:
No such indecision for me... with the Steelers out I'm rooting for the Patriots all the way... as much as I like McNabb, Terrell Owens must NOT get a SuperBowl ring. That is all.
Hey what's this I was listening to ESPN Radio on the way in this morning and Plaxico apparently said yesterday he may have played his last game as a Steeler? IS something going on or do you think he was just caught up in the disappointment of the game? Even if that was just frustration looks like there are going to be a few good WR prospects out there this off-season....
bob_arctor
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SickBoy said:
Oh, there is no doubt the Jets would have put up a much better fight. Those 2 teams know each other too well. To me, last nights game was just an extenstion of the Steeler's narrow escape against us anyway--complete ineptitude by a rookie QB w/ no playoff experience. The difference is, and this is why they always win, the Pats capitalize on turnovers. Hell, I can't even believe people thought Pittsburgh had a chance. The Pats made Manning look like a rookie. But hey, maybe it was Big Ben's gloves, or something. :lol
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DarienA said:
Well, there were rumors floating around earlier in the season that the Steelers were thinking of making him a serious offer. But read this and you tell me what you think they'll do now:
Frustrated Burress
I thought he showed great strides earlier this year, but watching his lame jumps and chicken figthing for the ball last night kind of soured me. Add in these complaints and I think that the Steelers will at least reconsider. So there you go Baltimore, Atlanta, Seattle and whoever else.
Spectral Glider
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This one has a few extra lines from Plax:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/steelerslive/s_296187.html
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/steelerslive/s_296187.html
Damn this game is on fox. I dont know if i can stand another 3 hours of Collingsworthles bashing the eagles. Ex-Cowboys seem to be our biggest supporters for some reason. They should replace him with Daryl Johnston.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3347144
We could all see it coming. Bring it on bitches, eagles are gonna shock the world after the media tears into them for the next 2 weeks.
One more thing, where the hell did Freddie Mitchel get a title belt.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3347144
We could all see it coming. Bring it on bitches, eagles are gonna shock the world after the media tears into them for the next 2 weeks.
One more thing, where the hell did Freddie Mitchel get a title belt.
Slo said:
The Vikings were the better team that year and this is hardly the first QB or team that the Pats have embarassed in the playoffs. In some ways it hurts a little less because we lost to a flat out better team, while the Vikings pretty much choked away a game they should have won easily. THOSE games hurt the most in the playoffs, like the Steelers choke against the Pats in 2001.
Spectral Glider
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As much as I hate Cowher and his big game chokes, the crazy thing is the opponents. He loses the Super Bowl to Dallas, a team that was at the end of wrapping up 3 trophies in 4 years. He lost to the Broncos, a team that went on a two trophies back to back run and now the Pats can make it 3 of 4. Either the guy really sucks or he's got the worst timing and luck ever. Or perhaps it's both.
Spectral Glider said:
We should have had Dallas in the Superbowl, we choked that game away. We were not as good as Denver, but we had them on the ropes before a huge collapse. We should have had the first Pats team that was probably the luckiest team I have ever seen. However, the team we lost to last night was a great team and I have the feel if we played them 3 more times they would win 2 or those 3 games. The Eagles have their work cut out for them.
Some of those games were coached really well though, so it isn't always on Cowher. In the SuperBowl he was so aggressive in his playcalling and it seemed to work, but TOs just destroyed us. I still remember how much heart our recievers showed in that Superbowl. They were catching EVERYTHING. Neil was all over the place and they were getting killed over the middle and yet they still caught everything. Our defense handled the Boys too that day, but our qb play came back to bite us in the ass and it had in the Broncos game and both Pats games.
Whatever, it wasn't our time yet. I just hope this loss doesn't fuck Ben's mind up. I am still pysched about our future, I still have a lot of faith that Big Ben is what we were missing all along.
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Here's a good one I got from another board:
Man whatever,just like their two regular season games?
Anyways,FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Why did we elect to receive the ball first?Why did we go for it on 4th and 1 that early in the game?Why did Ben play like shit for 2 weeks in a row?Why did Smith hold Faulk on 3rd and 17?Why did we kick a FG when there was like 10 minutes to go?Why does God hate me? :|
Ramirez said:Man whatever,just like their two regular season games?
Anyways,FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Why did we elect to receive the ball first?Why did we go for it on 4th and 1 that early in the game?Why did Ben play like shit for 2 weeks in a row?Why did Smith hold Faulk on 3rd and 17?Why did we kick a FG when there was like 10 minutes to go?Why does God hate me? :|
Football is gay dude. We need a new sport.
bob_arctor
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Ramirez said:
Yeah, pretty much. The 2nd game, 23-7 loss, was the one game all season where we just didn't show up at all--completely lackluster, non-effort across the board (which was the exception to every other game all season). The 1st game, 13-6 or whatever, that would be what I would expect save for the loss of John Abraham (which is huge against someone like Brady, who loves pockets more than lint). That 23-7 loss, he really did pick us apart.
I just don't get how anyone could have picked the Steelers since they looked (well, Big Ben) so horrible against the Jets and the blowout win they had against the Pats came when they were w/o Dillon.
Dillon was a basic non factor last night,his only good run came after a challenge loss and a personal foul which put them right in front of the goal.
I found it extremely funny though how he would literally have to kill himself to get 1-2 yards and then get up and start talking shit like he'd actually done something.Talk about a free trip to the SB,I wish his sorry ass was still in Cincy.I don't <3 Dillon. >:|
I found it extremely funny though how he would literally have to kill himself to get 1-2 yards and then get up and start talking shit like he'd actually done something.Talk about a free trip to the SB,I wish his sorry ass was still in Cincy.I don't <3 Dillon. >:|
Ramirez said:
I disagree the fact that the Patriots keep going back to the run so much helped to grind down the Steelers D AND kept those downfield pass opportunities out there...
Free trip to the Super Bowl? Are you f'n crazy?
C. Dillon NE 1635
Corey WORKED this year. He ended up being the #3 rusher for the league this year.... and for the record he has the most rushing yards in the post-season this year
1. C. Dillon NE 217
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Ramirez said:
I was feeling that actually. He was talking shit cuz he's going to the Big Dance. I would be talkin' ALL kinds of shit if I was in that position. What I really loved was that by the end of the game, everyone knowing the Pats would run it, Dillon was basically just running into the Steelers, lowering the shoulder and putting hits on 'em (there was one guy Dillon essentially tackled that flew back on his ass from the impact).
Ramirez said:
That's bullshit rationalization. Your hatred has made you silly. Regardless of what the team did before THIS year his yardage helped them get back, end of story.
I have no idea what the Bengals were thinking... when I heard it I was like... WTF?
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corey dillon is the karl malone of the nfl. bitch tried to hitch a ride on bradys jockstrap, and just like malone he will be unsuccessful. corey dillon is a whiny bitch who wasn't good enough to help his first team (bengals) win, so he came to the superbowl champ. what a joke he is. GO EAGLES GO!
Spectral Glider
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Dillon butted heads with Lewis, that's how it happened. That being said, Faulk played a nice roll in both playoff wins for them, much like he did before Dillon got there. Branch and Givens making the catches they did won the game for them. They won it with their passing offense and their D just sitting there watching Big Ben implode. I hate to say it, but I would have yanked Ben after the first half. Even in the third quarter, when he played well, he was bouning around and had happy feet when the Steelers were giving him great protection. A few times he just ran out of perfect pockets for reasons unkown to me. With that kind of line play, I'd have liked Tommy's chances more.
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Boston is the last town that deserves a Football dynasty. All they care about is the fuckin Yankees/Red Sox. They wouldn't have cared if they lost last night. All Pittsburgh fucking has is the Steelers though!
Spectral, I don't know about Maddox man. He looked pretty shaky against Buffalo and it isn't like he was ever that careful with the ball either. Ben is the guy for the next 3 years man, get used to it and hope he turns into the Superstar he can be if he doesn't choke it away like all of our other quarterbacks.
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If you can recognize when Ben is working and the team is winning during the regular season so you don't make a QB change, then I don't see what's wrong with recognizing when things aren't working for Ben and a change needs to be made. Especially in a playoff game. The coaches had to explain to Ben what he did wrong on the INT return, this isn't preseason, get him out of there. Franchise QB or not, just about everybody has ridden the pine at some point, its all part of the learning curve. Ben's got a great head on his shoulders, he would have handled it. And Tommy looked shakey against the Bills because he hadn't played since week 2 and the Bills were pretty good on D. And it's not like Tommy hadn't engineered comebacks in Heinz field before. What was the worst that could have happened? You were down 21. I sit the kid. Noll never had a problem putting Bradshaw on the pine, even during years they were winning.
Spectral Glider said:
I'd like to see Burress stay, but I can understand why he would want want to go. His rest/recovery late in the season for the leg injury seems a little pointless now. He might as well not even have played against the Jets and Patriots, his presence did little to effect the outcome of either game.
Regardless, he should've caught that ball on 2nd & Goal. You have to snag those kind of passes in key situations if you want to be seen as a premier receiver.
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Spectral Glider said:
Ben brought us within 4 yards of having the game being within 7 points. We just had the most horrible play calling at the point and then we fucking went for the FG. What more could Tommy have done in that situation? Even if he gets us to the 4 yard line like Ben does, they still would have called those same three garbage plays.
I told you before dude, we lost the game in the first quarter by shakey QB play, the Pats actually pushing us back with more physical play, and most of all getting totally outcoached. We looked better as the game went on because we adapted, but the Steelers looked LOST out there in the 1st quarter. That is either beause they were pussies or got outcoached, I thought it was the coaching.
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as bad as Big Ben played, that FG call by Cowher in the 4th was the backbreaker imo. EVen though they got 3 points out of it, it really took the crowd out of the game and killed their momentum. AT that point, you WERE down 21 at one point (twice, actually), you really have nothing to lose. Go for the TD, the crowd goes insane, momentum is extremely high. Worse comes to worse, you don't get a TD, but the Pats start with horrible field position inside their own 5. Instead, the Pats got nice field position off the kickoff, killed a few minutes off the clock, and got the 3 points right back with a Vinitiari fieldgoal.
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Ninja Scooter said:
My thoughts exactly. And another "advantage" of going for it instead of kicking the FG was an elimination of the risk of a lengthly kickoff return.
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bionic77 said:
Ben was 2 of 5 on the drive when Ward scored on the TD catch and run down the sideline to make it 31-17. He was 1 for 2 with a big 25 yard run by Bettis on the drive that got them into FG range to make it 31-20. Yeah, he made some plays to almost get them to 7. He also was directly responsible for them going down by 21.
And a big reason they looked lost was because practically before the game even starts, Ben hands the ball to the Patriots on the Steeler 48. Not even 5 minutes in on the game clock and it's 3-0. Turn it over on downs and then have a huge mistake in your coverage on the following play and just like that it's 10-0. And I don't fault the coaching move with going for it on 4th and 1 from the Pat's 39. If they convert that and at least tie it 3-3, then the INT deficit is effectively wiped out.
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Ninja Scooter said:
I agree 1000%.
With 1st and Goal at the 4, I'm not sure why they didn't run 3 (or 4) straight times. If the Steelers can't get 4 yards on the ground in 3or 4 plays, they aren't gonna fucking win anyway. Regardless, the pass play wasn't that bad; Burress should've caught that ball.
And screw putting Maddox in the game. I like the guy, but he's not a stellar quarterback, let alone a miracle worker. Throwing him in the second half of a championship game after he's played one game in the last 15 weeks isn't a solution, it's a desperate prayer.
And screw putting Maddox in the game. I like the guy, but he's not a stellar quarterback, let alone a miracle worker. Throwing him in the second half of a championship game after he's played one game in the last 15 weeks isn't a solution, it's a desperate prayer.
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Ristamar said:
Plax should have caught several, but he slapped at the ball helplessy like he was disjointed or something. That old Madden line is fitting, if you can touch it, you can catch it. Maybe not all the time, but hell, he had BOTH hands on the ball on a few throws.
The point of putting Maddox in is to let Ben sit and watch, perhaps learn. I don't understand why Ben would be exempt, franchise QB or no. When you play poorly, you're supposed to sit. Sure, the odds of Tommy working another miracle ala the Cleveland playoff game of 2002 is slim. But hell, they had a double digit deficit for 3 out of 4 quarters. It was 41-20 before a late garbage touchdown. I personally don't see how it could get any uglier. 14, 21, 28, 35 point loss, what's the difference?
I completely forgot about this(til I read an article that reminded me), ESPN Radio also said Bettis said he's gonna have to think about it this off-season... geez he ended the season with 945 yards and he MAY not come back? That IMO is crazy.... I think he showed this season he's got a lot left in the tank...
I understand what you're say Spectral but these days coaches seem VERY reluctant to sit their starters, even when the starter is struggling....
I understand what you're say Spectral but these days coaches seem VERY reluctant to sit their starters, even when the starter is struggling....
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Ristamar said:
It's a good question. Seems like a tough one to answer, but I think win or lose Tommy knows he's not the future in steel town. Frank Reich led the greatest comeback in playoff history, nobody seriously called for him to replace Jim Kelly. Nobody even questioned if he should have started the following week if I remember correctly. Trent Dilfer has a super bowl ring, that didn't stop him from getting the boot. Do I honestly think Tommy could have won it? No, the steeler pass defense was not going to shut down the Patriot offense the entire second half. Like I said, for me it was thinking that it's not always a bad thing for a QB to sit and watch.
But, given your miracle situation, then I'd much rather be in the SB and have to worry about answering that question than watching the SB on TV and not have to answer it. Start one guy and if he tanks, go with the other one. There's no written law about this that says you have to go strictly one way or the other.
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I just want to say that I hate New England.
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