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The Office: Final Season |OT| It's better to burn out than it is to rust

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Enco

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I have to say, The Farm never really sounded promising so I'm glad they're not going through with it.

Just let The Office end. It really needs to, and we really don't need to see any more of it or its characters after Season 9.
This.

Really couldn't see it going well.
 

DrEvil

not a medical professional
Mods, if you can switch it plzkthx:

The Office: Final Season |OT| - The Farm Burned Down and Everyone Dies at the End



Also, new, terrible episode descriptions.... the "Farm" must really be a standalone episode as I'm surprised they've delayed it so far outside of the sixth episode spot it was originally planned for this season.

NOVEMBER 8th:
9x08 "The Whale" said:
Dwight faces his greatest professional handicap: selling to women — when Dwight must sell to a woman at the lucrative Scranton White Pages, Pam and the ladies teach him how to interact with female clients. Angela suspects the Senator is cheating on her; she and Oscar spy on him at his yoga class. Meanwhile, Andy skypes in from his boat, and Toby convinces several guys in the office to grow mustaches in honor of “Movember.”

NOVEMBER 15th:
9x09 "The Target" said:
Angela discovers the truth — Angela discovers her husband’s affair with Oscar and goes to Dwight for help. Jim needs a favor from Stanley and Phyllis who milk it for all it’s worth. Pam begins painting her mural in the warehouse but gets distracted by Pete who is building a tower of complaint cards.
 

Flash

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Mods, if you can switch it plzkthx:

The Office: Final Season |OT| - The Farm Burned Down and Everyone Dies at the End



Also, new, terrible episode descriptions.... the "Farm" must really be a standalone episode as I'm surprised they've delayed it so far outside of the sixth episode spot it was originally planned for this season.

NOVEMBER 8th:


NOVEMBER 15th:

Wow the whale sounds horrendous. The Oscar /Angela / Senator stuff sounds painful as well but at least its nearing the end...I hope.
 

DrEvil

not a medical professional
hahahah wtf NBC.

They're delaying the entire thursday night lineup by one week in order to run a REPEAT of Monday Night's "the Voice"... So no Office this week.
 

big ander

Member
Well, it's not to rerun the voice...it's because of Hurricane Sandy. So instead of throwing a weeks worth of thursday night shows on the fire they're taking the safe route. It's better for the Thursday comedies, not worse.
 

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That was pretty bad.
 

VanWinkle

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Hate how they suddenly made Andy a big jerk to Erin this season. Made no sense. But whatever. Mediocre episode at best. Didn't laugh once.
 
can someone explain the logic in making Andy/Erin such a big thing last season, then having him be a douche to her all this season so some random new guy can end up with her?

Kevin's getting really old too.
 

OnPoint

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The Dwight prank storyline was the only part that was remotely funny, and that's because it was so outlandish. I would have rather saw the pranksters get caught with Wallace on the phone but it was a pretty mailed in resolution. Of course I didn't expect any better.

The Oscar stuff was painful. Just straight awkward. with no redeeming aspect to it.

The Andy/Erin break-up and eventual Plop dating is so obvious and honestly the shift in Andy's treating her would make it OK if it were written well. But it feels super forced.

Also, did they change the shooting techniques for this episode? It felt like a different show at times.

I know, if I'm just going to bitch why bother watching. But it's like an old pet you don't want to see die. You know the end is coming, and they might not be able to walk to even use the bathroom somewhere other than all over themselves, but you want to see it to the bitter end. Thankfully it will be over soon.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
I actually thought this episode was pretty good, but I do agree that suddenly making Andy a terrible boyfriend and driving Erin away is stupid and frustrating.
 

Lijik

Member
I kinda liked the Dwight plot, but everything else was abysmal.
Andy being a douche makes no sense, and just isn't funny.
 

vidcons

Banned
andy and erin dating was dumb to begin with and his insanity doucheness isn't out of left field. they've actually got some direction this season with daniels return but since he left the show has been downward spiraling.

these episodes may be bad, but you have to recognize everything that they're working with.
 

inm8num2

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This might be the worst show on tv.

Andy is the worst character on tv.

Erin is second worst (I've never found her funny or interesting at all).

If you look at the big picture, they had three good seasons, one mediocre season, and five bad seasons.
 

Mahzkrieg

Banned
I watched my first episode in 2 years tonight.
The one where Andy sets sail on his dad's boat.

The show is so over the top and trying so hard to get laughs.
There's no heart anymore.
The last episode that had any real emotion for me was the one where Michael left.
I fucking teared up when he said "Oh yeah, I almost forgot about this thing" and removed his mic.


Should have killed it when it was still okay.
 
This might be the worst show on tv.

Andy is the worst character on tv.

Erin is second worst (I've never found her funny or interesting at all).

If you look at the big picture, they had three good seasons, one mediocre season, and five bad seasons.

Yep. This and Parks last night were an hour completely devoid of laughs. I really wish 30 Rock had aired, then something on NBC might have been able to make me laugh.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
I watched my first episode in 2 years tonight.
The one where Andy sets sail on his dad's boat.

The show is so over the top and trying so hard to get laughs.
There's no heart anymore.
The last episode that had any real emotion for me was the one where Michael left.
I fucking teared up when he said "Oh yeah, I almost forgot about this thing" and removed his mic.


Should have killed it when it was still okay.


Really hate this sentiment. "Let's kill a show and put people out of a job because I don't like it anymore". Someone out there (somehow) is still watching it and enjoying it and it's still providing jobs to a bunch of people who would probably be unemployed otherwise. So fuck it. Let it suck. As long as someone is still watching it should be on.

Just watch the earlier seasons on Netflix because those are still extremely good. This isn't LOST where the later seasons retroactively make the earlier seasons bad.

I also used to think this way but came to me senses.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
Maybe Andy will be lost at sea forever and we can end a bunch of terrible plots all in one shot.
 

Mahzkrieg

Banned
Really hate this sentiment. "Let's kill a show and put people out of a job because I don't like it anymore". Someone out there (somehow) is still watching it and enjoying it and it's still providing jobs to a bunch of people who would probably be unemployed otherwise. So fuck it. Let it suck. As long as someone is still watching it should be on.

Just watch the earlier seasons on Netflix because those are still extremely good. This isn't LOST where the later seasons retroactively make the earlier seasons bad.

I also used to think this way but came to me senses.

I just think it's silly for a property to go to shit just for money.
I doubt it would be hard for those actors to find work again.
And I doubt it would be hard for the creators to create something new.

Downton Abby is amazing through 3 seasons and has insane ratings.
But they are unlikely to go much further.
I have a lot of respect for that.
 

Hero

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Awful episode outside of the Kevin and Oscar plot line.

Absolutely hate how Andy is being a douchebag to Erin for NO REASON AT ALL. Fuck the writers. All they're trying to do is make Andy/Erin/Plop the new Roy/Pam/Jim. Fucking pathetic.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
I just think it's silly for a property to go to shit just for money.
I doubt it would be hard for those actors to find work again.
And I doubt it would be hard for the creators to create something new.

Downton Abby is amazing through 3 seasons and has insane ratings.
But they are unlikely to go much further.
I have a lot of respect for that.

They're both "silly" but I like the silly version where people get to keep a pay check. That's also the version where I can choose to simply not watch it. That way, it won't really affect me.
 

Davey Cakes

Member
The Dwight prank was so outlandish that I was laughing out loud at it.

So yeah, I liked this episode enough. The Oscar and Kevin parts were pretty funny too.
 

Jarnet87

Member
I kind of liked the episode. I think Kevin is funny when they give him some face time. That cold opening where he spills the Chili is one of my favorites.
 
They're both "silly" but I like the silly version where people get to keep a pay check. That's also the version where I can choose to simply not watch it. That way, it won't really affect me.

There are a limited number of slots for shows on broadcast networks, so I have no problem rooting for completely terrible ones to get canceled. It's not like most of the cast and crew won't be able to find new jobs.
 

BFIB

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They never should have given Ed Helms the main spotlight after Michael left. Its clear the writers have no idea how to write his character anymore, since he was best as a background character.

But it seems like that is the status quo for the show, period. Its no longer about the characters themselves, its about "how can we fit these characters into what cheap laughs we can get".

Loved the show for the first four seasons, tolerated 5, 6. 7 had its high moments since there was an endgame with Michael, and to me, its when the show truly ended.
 

Quick

Banned
They never should have given Ed Helms the main spotlight after Michael left. Its clear the writers have no idea how to write his character anymore, since he was best as a background character.

I think they chose him as the lead, because they were banking on Ed Helms' success in The Hangover movies to carry the show, much like how they banked on Steve Carell's success in 40 Year Old Virgin to carry the show initially.

Probably could've carried the show with better writing.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
I think they chose him as the lead, because they were banking on Ed Helms' success in The Hangover movies to carry the show, much like how they banked on Steve Carell's success in 40 Year Old Virgin to carry the show initially.

Probably could've carried the show with better writing.

Yeah they had horrible writing so it's hard to fault most of the actors. Oscar used to be one of my favorite characters because he was understated but consistently funny in subtle ways. Then they made him a part of a Mad TV sketch. The only long-time actor on the show I would say is genuinely bad is Pam. Even in the show's glory days there were some pretty cringeworthy moments due to her bad acting.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
Yeah they had horrible writing so it's hard to fault most of the actors. Oscar used to be one of my favorite characters because he was understated but consistently funny in subtle ways. Then they made him a part of a Mad TV sketch. The only long-time actor on the show I would say is genuinely bad is Pam. Even in the show's glory days there were some pretty cringeworthy moments due to her bad acting.

She's the worst part of this show by far and I agree with you about Oscar. He was so subtle in the past. Listening to him explain to Michael what a surplus is was one of the greatest moments of the series for me.
 

Jonogunn

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I actually liked this episode. It was decent I thought.

I agree that making Kevin over the top stupid is a little too much but I thought it worked for this episode.
 

The Real Abed

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Hopefully Andy doesnt appear for a couple of episodes.
You know they'll have scenes of him down there, despite the fact that he probably didn't take a cameraman with him, let alone his fucking GIRLFRIEND. Seriously, Andy? Seriously? He deserves to have her cheat on him. But will she....
 

Davey Cakes

Member
You know they'll have scenes of him down there, despite the fact that he probably didn't take a cameraman with him, let alone his fucking GIRLFRIEND. Seriously, Andy? Seriously? He deserves to have her cheat on him. But will she....
I think that's where they're going. She and Pete will probably do something.
 
Yeah they had horrible writing so it's hard to fault most of the actors. Oscar used to be one of my favorite characters because he was understated but consistently funny in subtle ways. Then they made him a part of a Mad TV sketch. The only long-time actor on the show I would say is genuinely bad is Pam. Even in the show's glory days there were some pretty cringeworthy moments due to her bad acting.
She's the worst part of this show by far and I agree with you about Oscar. He was so subtle in the past. Listening to him explain to Michael what a surplus is was one of the greatest moments of the series for me.

Explain to me like I'm a 5th grader what's wrong with Pam. I absolutely adore her character. And I know my shit. Come ate me bor.

As far as this episode goes, for me...
Thought it was a funny, silly, slapstick episode, just 2 complaints...

1. With a prank that epic on Dwight, wherein he practically professes his love for David Wallace, involves nearly the entire office staff in a crazy prank call, I expected the whole gig to be up by the end when Dwight conferenced David Wallace in. And what the hell was up with Toby? Toby seems to be on Xanax or something because he just didn't give a crap about much, and HAD to be aware of the mayhem in the break room and conference rooms. I just expected more consequences to come from that prank. Loved it, but I needed a different payoff.

2. Erin not going on the cruise, come on. Andy gets all competent, and manages to still duff that part of his personal life so hard? If they are fizzling, then it's both their faults. They can't be portraying her so dumb that she couldn't just straight up tell him she wanted to go. I guess they needed that setup for her to start boning Plop though. I don't understand the up & down game they play with that relationship. I like them togather, done. Deal with it.

I loved the focus on Kevin this week. Ice cream cone falling, lol. Kevin giggling, almost busting the secret for Oscar actually made me tense, especially Angela saying "then he wanted a little Mexican". I know the writing was a little forced there but so is every "that's what she said" tee-up and I like those too. I loved Andy fighting the sailor. Funny to see Josh Groban laid out on the boat in that side stateroom. I loved Dwight going crazy, that whole prank was amazing, especially Nellie actually, and really lol'd when I saw Kevin sitting in there in HIS underwear too.

I liked the episode.

I loved Dwight doing his vocal warm up excersies. I was trying it myself after...
Brrrrrttt... BRRRRTTT.. la la la la...
Greta, the tittle tattle, prattled on about the little metal bottle. She spat a bit of spittle… Tricky Siskel spat a bit of wicked biscuit…
 

.GqueB.

Banned
Explain to me like I'm a 5th grader what's wrong with Pam. I absolutely adore her character. And I know my shit. Come ate me bor.

Let's say your mom and dad want to open an ice cream shop. You overhear them coming up with the flavors they want to sell at the shop and they talk about selling mint chocolate chip, butter pecan, cookie dough and strawberry. Angry, you walk in and yell "what about vanilla?!". But your parents explain to you how boring Vanilla is. No one really orders it because it's so bland compared to the others. They'd have all of these amazing flavors that people get excited about and then they'd have Vanilla sitting over there bumming everyone out.

Nobody likes Vanilla.
 

eastmen

Banned
Let's say your mom and dad want to open an ice cream shop. You overhear them coming up with the flavors they want to sell at the shop and they talk about selling mint chocolate chip, butter pecan, cookie dough and strawberry. Angry, you walk in and yell "what about vanilla?!". But your parents explain to you how boring Vanilla is. No one really orders it because it's so bland compared to the others. They'd have all of these amazing flavors that people get excited about and then they'd have Vanilla sitting over there bumming everyone out.

Nobody likes Vanilla.

WTF . I love vanilla. What I don't like is plain chocolate. I need to have something else in it. Chocolate and peanut butter or chocolate and fudge . And screw strawberry , I'm allergic .

I can have plain vanilla , it tastes really good . Also if you look two of the flavors you list have vanilla as the main flavor.
 
Let's say your mom and dad want to open an ice cream shop. You overhear them coming up with the flavors they want to sell at the shop and they talk about selling mint chocolate chip, butter pecan, cookie dough and strawberry. Angry, you walk in and yell "what about vanilla?!". But your parents explain to you how boring Vanilla is. No one really orders it because it's so bland compared to the others. They'd have all of these amazing flavors that people get excited about and then they'd have Vanilla sitting over there bumming everyone out.

Nobody likes Vanilla.
I like vanilla plenty. Explain it to me like I'm 5.
 

Grinchy

Banned
I fucking love vanilla ice cream but I can't stand Pam. It's amazing when someone can dethrone Kelly as worst character on The Office.
 
Sorry but I'll just come out and straight up defend Pam. She's 20% of why I am still ALL IN on this show. Dudes, angry Pam, in the last episode was FUCKING AWESOME (Here Comes Treble). She slayed it in that.

I am married, so I know that "you fucking did WHAT" look and conversation and I thought that they handled it so well. I could feel Jim's pain. I have very, very few complaints about how Jenna Fischer handles the Pam Halpert character these days.

I think there were some touch-n-go moments there in S1, but once she got it, she really got it. I guess she reminds me of people I know in real life so I have some attachment to her character.

More vanilla for me please. I love them scoops.
 

.GqueB.

Banned
WTF . I love vanilla. What I don't like is plain chocolate. I need to have something else in it. Chocolate and peanut butter or chocolate and fudge . And screw strawberry , I'm allergic .

I can have plain vanilla , it tastes really good . Also if you look two of the flavors you list have vanilla as the main flavor.

I like vanilla plenty. Explain it to me like I'm 5.

I fucking love vanilla ice cream but I can't stand Pam. It's amazing when someone can dethrone Kelly as worst character on The Office.

I love vanilla bean. All about vanilla bean.

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Pam's one of the few people I still consistently like on the show. She's not the reason I watch and I don't think she's the best character, but she's one of the only ones who rarely annoys me on the show. It's not saying much, but that's how bad the show's gotten.
 
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