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[Snapshot King]

Maybe if EB has a trade SFIV + 10 dollars for Super SFIV...........

I even shelled out money for a TE stick, but screw buying the same game again

30% increase in characters and significant upgrades across the board?

Halo 3 is less of a sequel than this.

Oh, guilt me! Guilt me some more.

There's no loss here. I have a multitude of electronic time wasters.

But Street Fighter isn't just another time waster. It's STREET FIGHTER!

See? Not a true believer. But since not, can't blame ya. You just don't got the SF crazies. Too bad.

 

[Perdew]

I'm so confused... if it's really 10 extra characters, especially 3S ones, awesome Alpha ones, and completely new ones, as well as extra stages/music/everything... how is it not worth a new disc just because it's based on the same engine? Should Lost Planet 2 and Dead Rising 2 be DLC also? The fuck?

Plus, I have like 50MB left on my hard drive. Disc or bust.

 

[LowParry]

30% increase in characters and significant upgrades across the board?

Halo 3 is less of a sequel than this.




But Street Fighter isn't just another time waster. It's STREET FIGHTER!

See? Not a true believer. But since not, can't blame ya. You just don't got the SF crazies. Too bad.

Cue Doctor Demento.

 

[Snapshot King]

BELIEVE

 

[SuperMattyFighter2T]

I'm so confused... if it's really 10 extra characters, especially 3S ones, awesome Alpha ones, and completely new ones, as well as extra stages/music/everything... how is it not worth a new disc just because it's based on the same engine? Should Lost Planet 2 and Dead Rising 2 be DLC also? The fuck?

Plus, I have like 50MB left on my hard drive. Disc or bust.

I hope there are extra stages... if they are from previous SFs. Lots of Turbo, Alpha, and 3S stages I would like to see. If they're making more stages, but they're just the same generic shit they did in the first place... I would rather see them spend those work hours on other characters or anything else.

 

[vg260]

I'm expecting very little actual information to revealed other than confirming it's general existence and more teasers.

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

But Street Fighter isn't just another time waster. It's STREET FIGHTER!

See? Not a true believer. But since not, can't blame ya. You just don't got the SF crazies. Too bad.

Oh trust me, I was huge into SF2 and SF3. Hell, I'm getting a PC rig together to play those games and other awesome 2D fighters online with GGPO.

Unfortunately SF4 went off in the wrong direction. God damn polygons and development outsourcing.

Oh well, ASW and SNK keep the true 2D flame burning. Not to mention ASW completely outclassing Capcom in the online play deparment.

 

[Snapshot King]

Polygons and Dimps. Really? Thats all you got? Graphical style aside, the game plays great. Right up there with all the others. But if its not up there for you, your stance on new versions certainly seems clearer. Except that even if they made the gameplay even better, doesn't seem like it'd matter =\ Cuz of them darn polygons.

 

[LowParry]

Oh trust me, I was huge into SF2 and SF3. Hell, I'm getting a PC rig together to play those games and other awesome 2D fighters online with GGPO.

Unfortunately SF4 went off in the wrong direction. God damn polygons and development outsourcing.

Oh well, ASW and SNK keep the true 2D flame burning. Not to mention ASW completely outclassing Capcom in the online play deparment.

I've been meaning to ask what your thoughts were on 3D fighters. I know you love them 2Ders. And hate SF4 so much. :lol

 

[permutated]

Trolls aside when is the announcement?

 

[Snapshot King]

Tuesday morning at 5am EST. Probably just a teaser/announcement trailer though.

 

[Perdew]

Polygons and Dimps. Really? Thats all you got? Graphical style aside, the game plays great. Right up there with all the others. But if its not up there for you, your stance on new versions certainly seems clearer. Except that even if they made the gameplay even better, doesn't seem like it'd matter =\ Cuz of them darn polygons.

I'm going to have to jump in here and say that I'm glad TToB exists. It doesn't really matter that he doesn't play SFIV, and it's nice to see someone sticking to their sprite based guns.

Even though I don't agree with it, and try to spend equal time in BB and SFIV. I'm still waiting on KoFXII to hit $20, too.

 

[Snapshot King]

I'll admit, I would have preferred sprites too. But I like the new style anyway. Specially since it lets them churn out characters at a record pace.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

:lol @ people thinking this will be DLC.

Seriously.

Thirded. I find people's reactions unbelieveable. :lol This thread is fucking loony-city.

 

[Xux]

I'll admit, I would have preferred sprites too. But I like the new style anyway. Specially since it lets them churn out characters at a record pace.

Yeah, 2D's pretty awesome. Too bad everyone turned into graphic whores in the mid 90's and the series died 'cause of it. :/

 

[isamu]

They're supposedly doubling the roster.

what they need to double is their efforts for the online features and give 4 player lobby matches, spectating and much better netcode(for PC specifically).

 

[Cynar]

Will buy, day 1 :O

 

[SuperMattyFighter2T]

Yeah, 2D's pretty awesome. Too bad everyone turned into graphic whores in the mid 90's and the series died 'cause of it. :/

If they've turned into graphic whores they should prefer the 2D. I look at BlazBlue and SFIV... there is no comparison. Then again it could just be the art style also. BB backgrounds are 3D and they blow away the horrible generic stages in SFIV.

It isn't all bad though. SFIV looks fine either way, and I doubt we would be getting that many new characters anytime soon if it wasn't for going 3D. DUDLEY!!! DUDLEY!!! DUDLEY!!! It better be true.

 

[TheShampion]

Oh man, I just sold SFIV (not to my taste), but if half the things the rumors say are on this version, I may have to double dip. The only things that would make this a must buy for me though is either Rolento or Skullomania.

 

[Xux]

If they've turned into graphic whores they should prefer the 2D. I look at BlazBlue and SFIV... there is no comparison. Then again it could just be the art style also. BB backgrounds are 3D and they blow away the horrible generic stages in SFIV.

It isn't all bad though. SFIV looks fine either way, and I doubt we would be getting that many new characters anytime soon if it wasn't for going 3D. DUDLEY!!! DUDLEY!!! DUDLEY!!! It better be true.

Well, yeah; I'm saying people back then thought the robots in Virtua Fighter were better than Makoto's clothes and Dudley and Elena's footwork just 'cause of the polygons.

They really need to view the stages as an extension of the character and pump out awesome scrolls along the lines of 2i's stages. Less VS. stages more SF stages.

 

[CloudV]

While I've only played SF4 at the arcades here (unfortunately the home version is still really expensive in Japan) this would be something I'd be interested in picking up if they indeed do bring in characters like Makoto and Dudley.

More importantly, if this is indeed the next "edition" of SF4, I find it extremely funny that it looks like they're playing it on a small and shitty SD TV:lol

 

[kazuo]

The only things that would make this a must buy for me though is either Rolento or Skullomania.

LOL, and here I thought I was the only guy hoping they'd add Skullomania :lol

I don't seriously want him in the game, I just think it would be funny... I want Skullomania and D. DARK!

EXPROSIVE.

...anyway, uh, if the amount of shit they are allegedly adding pans out (10 charas, new Supers/ultras etc), then it is worth the extra money, IMO.

How can you really argue against that? Adding TEN characters to the roster is pretty crazy.

 

[permutated]

How can you really argue against that? Adding TEN characters to the roster is pretty crazy.

It's NeoGAF bro, people hate on shit before they even know what they're hating on. :lol

Spoiler

I'd like to see Rolento in there too!

 

[DR2K]

Oh well, ASW and SNK keep the true 2D flame burning. Not to mention ASW completely outclassing Capcom in the online play deparment.

With half-assed balance to absolutely no playability. Too bad they're as 2D in their philosophy as they are in their design.

 

[TheVisualizer]

It's NeoGAF bro, people hate on shit before they even know what they're hating on. :lol

Truer words have never been spoken

 

[Kodiak]

Considering the amount of time my household has sunk into SFIV, 60 dollars isn't too much to ask for double the roster.

Hope it maintains the fun/balance/variety ratio currently in the game. It's pretty much perfect perfect (for our skill level)

 

[bistromathics]

With half-assed balance to absolutely no playability. Too bad they're as 2D in their philosophy as they are in their design.

ouch!

(i agree)

 

[remz]

With half-assed balance to absolutely no playability. Too bad they're as 2D in their philosophy as they are in their design.

SF4 has just as many balance issues as Blazblue, if not more.

Actually yeah, I retract that comment.

 

[FindMyFarms]

SF4 has just as many balance issues as Blazblue, if not more.

I don't think there's any matchups in sf4 close to as bad as arakune vs tager

 

[DR2K]

SF4 has just as many balance issues as Blazblue, if not more.

Only 3 out of 12 characters are viable, tons of horrible one-sided match-ups. Now SFIV has it's fair share of problems and there are some loopy match ups, I'd say about 3/4 of the cast is viable. All you need to do is look at tournament results and character diversity for both games and be prepared to laugh at that statement.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"SF4 has just as many balance issues as Blazblue, if not more."

Absolutely not. As mentioned, Arakune vs. Tager is absolutely terrible. Tager vs. a lot of characters is pretty bad.


"Only 3 out of 12 characters are viable, tons of horrible one-sided match-ups."

Not even close.

 

[DR2K]

"SF4 has just as many balance issues as Blazblue, if not more."

Absolutely not. As mentioned, Arakune vs. Tager is absolutely terrible. Tager vs. a lot of characters is pretty bad.


"Only 3 out of 12 characters are viable, tons of horrible one-sided match-ups."

Not even close.

Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

 

[Xater]

If this end up being a re-release maybe they can also do some work on the online? Then I'd be happy to put down full price again.

 

[panda21]

anime avatars = blazblu :lol

 

[KaYotiX]

They better add in ALL original stages and music damn it!!!!

 

[GeoNeo]

Blazblue despite being horribly unbalanced is still worth a buy in my books; for the netcode alone. Though, a HDD install feature on the PS3 version would have been nice.

KOF12 on the other hand should be avoided at all costs. Last week I had checked if the patch was even out for the unplayable netcode, and surprise MS has yet to approve it. Wonder why? Being a huge SNK fan this game ripped my heart out of my chest spat on it and left it broken as the netcode it currently has. Though, I hear the patch the PS3 version got is nothing to write home about. Ugh.

I'll be buying SSFIV Day 1 along with Tekken 6 BR and VF5R (If it ever comes out.), and lastly the new and improved BlazBlue.

 

[killdatninja]

All the speculation for the new release reminds me how obsessed I was when capcom first showed the ink bleed trailer. They were such a cock tease for soo many months, I'm hoping tomorrow is not just another tease saying we can expect the next clue months down the line.

Here's the Gametrailers trailer analysis for SFIV back in 2007 (for old times sake), they pretty off quite about a lot of stuff but still fun to watch what we thought back then.

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?"


Disagreeing with you on the only 3 out of 12 characters are viable bit.

 

[AndriaSang]

All the speculation for the new release reminds me how obsessed I was when capcom first showed the ink bleed trailer. They were such a cock tease for soo many months, I'm hoping tomorrow is not just another tease saying we can expect the next clue months down the line.

Here's the Gametrailers trailer analysis for SFIV back in 2007 (for old times sake), they pretty off quite about a lot of stuff but still fun to watch what we thought back then.

Given that select members of the press apparently played it during TGS, I'm certain we'll be seeing a good amount on the game shortly.

Also, given the timing of the announcements, expect it to be in tomorrow's Famitsu leaks.

 

[FindMyFarms]

All the speculation for the new release reminds me how obsessed I was when capcom first showed the ink bleed trailer. They were such a cock tease for soo many months, I'm hoping tomorrow is not just another tease saying we can expect the next clue months down the line.

Here's the Gametrailers trailer analysis for SFIV back in 2007 (for old times sake), they pretty off quite about a lot of stuff but still fun to watch what we thought back then.

Unless the capcom guy meant artistic direction(couldn't tell if the journalist was asking 2d/3d in terms of graphics or gameplay), the sf4 cg movies contain nothing indicative of the game's actual fight mechanics.

 

[speedpop]

Wow. Guess my timing of trading in SF4 was to perfection. Now I can sleep guilt free!

 

[arstal]

With half-assed balance to absolutely no playability. Too bad they're as 2D in their philosophy as they are in their design.

SNK's latest KOFs were balanced. Lots wrong with XII, but not balance.

98UM and 2k2UM were well-balanced also.

That said, I'm done with SNK due to the crappy ports we get.

BB had poor balance- not as bad as 3s but still bad, though it looks like the update will fix some of thsi.

 

[SuperMattyFighter2T]

Only 3 out of 12 characters are viable, tons of horrible one-sided match-ups. Now SFIV has it's fair share of problems and there are some loopy match ups, I'd say about 3/4 of the cast is viable. All you need to do is look at tournament results and character diversity for both games and be prepared to laugh at that statement.

lol bullshit.

3 out of 12 characters viable? Almost all of them are. Only character that really has quite a lot of bad matchups is Tager. Nu and Arakune definitely need looking at as they are overpowered. Even Rachel. But the rest of the cast can still win and do very well. Don't blow shit out of proportion and act like you know what you're talking about. And yeah, it's laughable how many Nus win tournaments. That will be fixed in the update. Game is still hella fun and worth playing seriously.

As for KoFXII... not going to act like I know anything about a game I've played for all of 60 minutes, unlike other people here. I just know I didn't like the looks nor gameplay from what I did get to play.

 

[DR2K]

lol bullshit.

3 out of 12 characters viable? Almost all of them are. Only character that really has quite a lot of bad matchups is Tager. Nu and Arakune definitely need looking at as they are overpowered. Even Rachel. But the rest of the cast can still win and do very well. Don't blow shit out of proportion and act like you know what you're talking about. And yeah, it's laughable how many Nus win tournaments. That will be fixed in the update. Game is still hella fun and worth playing seriously.

As for KoFXII... not going to act like I know anything about a game I've played for all of 60 minutes, unlike other people here. I just know I didn't like the looks nor gameplay from what I did get to play.

If viable isn't working for you, how about I use the word dominant?

I still don't understand how badly you can fuck up with only 12 characters and all those years tweaking GG.

SNK's latest KOFs were balanced. Lots wrong with XII, but not balance.

98UM and 2k2UM were well-balanced also.

That said, I'm done with SNK due to the crappy ports we get.

BB had poor balance- not as bad as 3s but still bad, though it looks like the update will fix some of thsi.

Can't really say anything about KOFXII balance because no one plays it. I was refering to BB mainly about balance, and KOF regarding playability.

 

[SuperMattyFighter2T]

If viable isn't working for you, how about I use the word dominant?

I still don't understand how badly you can fuck up with only 12 characters and all those years tweaking GG.

Dominant is a better term. They aren't god tier broken either. Despite your chart you can still do well with almost any character. I play Noel, a character that has to be in your face to win, and she isn't even free for a good Nu. Hell, Mike Z beasts with Tager. Game is still fun and worth playing seriously. Hopefully Continuum Shift fixes these problems, even though the Noel changes for the loc test have me scared as hell.

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

Psycho Crusher needs a buff, devils reverse hand needs to be able to hit on both sides, headstomp needs more priority against SRK, and better tracking. It is too easy to whiff


The man needs his cape back as well, and the cutthroat motion as a taunt.

EX crusher makes up for his normal one being somewhat lame, at least on startup, and I've had good results stomping shotos to death. I will agree with you on the DR tho, but I pretty much use it to bait ultras or for mind games.

 

[Ryu bogard]

Day 1 but only if they fix sagat and ryu.

 

[voodoopanda]

Dan vs Zangief is a pretty bad matchup.

 

[SuperMattyFighter2T]

Dan vs Zangief is a pretty bad matchup.

lol Dan vs anyone is a pretty bad matchup. Feel free to switch out Dan with Fei Long and it's still a correct statement. Two worst characters in the game.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Also they should make a Q alternate costume makoto, make everyone happy. Because Q is a poorly designed and bad Makoto with moves that don't matter in a game without parries.

Q sux