d00d3n
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They didn't - that's why they added the cheese crossbow, to allow people to hastily move on.
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The Order: 1886 |OT| Gears of Yore
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They didn't - that's why they added the cheese crossbow, to allow people to hastily move on.
Carnby
Member
Near the gate you will find more ammo.
d00d3n
Member
Yeah, the 5 arrows that you start with are more than enough to get you to that place.
I lost my hope for this series when the developer tweeted this - https://twitter.com/AndreaPessino/status/571137039753564161
It means the dev's have learnt nothing from the criticism of the game and seem adamant that their game design choices are justified. There is no hope for the sequel as well if it ever takes place. Sony should avoid future deals with RAD in my opinion and use that money for better projects.
It means the dev's have learnt nothing from the criticism of the game and seem adamant that their game design choices are justified. There is no hope for the sequel as well if it ever takes place. Sony should avoid future deals with RAD in my opinion and use that money for better projects.
It would be fine if I could just press triangle when I'm close to someone to kill them, instead of timing this stupid QTE
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Rented this late last night, and now the credits are rolling.
Overall, I thought this was a pretty good game, but I'm glad I didn't buy it.
As been said a million times before, the graphics are just gorgeous. RAD's artists did an amazing job, and this is easily the most visually impressive game I've seen yet.
I absolutely love the concept, and thought the story was fine. Anyways, I do have a few nitpicks...
- Gunplay felt smooth, and landing head shots was often easy, but I still felt most of the guns lacked punch.
- Lycan encounters were always the same. A little more variation would've been nice, as well as more encounters period. Some of the environments were pretty fucking creepy, and I found myself thinking I'd be shitting my pants if they staged some surprise Lycan encounters. There were moments were I envisioned how I would've had some flashes of Lycans in the environments to build tension, before springing unexpected encounters. No doubt some missed opportunities in injecting some fear into the game.
- Speaking of fear, there never was anything to be afraid of. This could've made for a great horror game, but you always knew whether an encounter was coming by whether your character had his gun holstered. Once again, strolling through some creepy environments, but fear not, because my gun was holstered. Nothing was going to happen.
- QTEs could be a pain in the ass. Especially the type where you have to move a cursor to a dot on screen with your right thumb, and press a button. I wasn't a fan of it.
- Although I tried to inspect and find every little item, I must've missed one or more. There's no way of seeing progress made in each level in regards to papers, photos, cylinders, etc.
Anyways The Order really needs and deserves a sequel. Maybe a little more in the scares department, a little more action, and some less triangle button. The potential is big for such a bitching concept. Oh, and can we get some howling here? Some distant howls when Lycans around would've had my hair standing on end!
Overall, I thought this was a pretty good game, but I'm glad I didn't buy it.
As been said a million times before, the graphics are just gorgeous. RAD's artists did an amazing job, and this is easily the most visually impressive game I've seen yet.
I absolutely love the concept, and thought the story was fine. Anyways, I do have a few nitpicks...
- Gunplay felt smooth, and landing head shots was often easy, but I still felt most of the guns lacked punch.
- Lycan encounters were always the same. A little more variation would've been nice, as well as more encounters period. Some of the environments were pretty fucking creepy, and I found myself thinking I'd be shitting my pants if they staged some surprise Lycan encounters. There were moments were I envisioned how I would've had some flashes of Lycans in the environments to build tension, before springing unexpected encounters. No doubt some missed opportunities in injecting some fear into the game.
- Speaking of fear, there never was anything to be afraid of. This could've made for a great horror game, but you always knew whether an encounter was coming by whether your character had his gun holstered. Once again, strolling through some creepy environments, but fear not, because my gun was holstered. Nothing was going to happen.
- QTEs could be a pain in the ass. Especially the type where you have to move a cursor to a dot on screen with your right thumb, and press a button. I wasn't a fan of it.
- Although I tried to inspect and find every little item, I must've missed one or more. There's no way of seeing progress made in each level in regards to papers, photos, cylinders, etc.
Anyways The Order really needs and deserves a sequel. Maybe a little more in the scares department, a little more action, and some less triangle button. The potential is big for such a bitching concept. Oh, and can we get some howling here? Some distant howls when Lycans around would've had my hair standing on end!
Take aspects of the beautiful engine they built, the world and lore, scrap just about everything else, including the Dev. Give it to some competent game designers who want to create interesting gameplay scenarios, weapon sandbox designers, level designers, combat and enemy AI designers, writers, etc. Take the great parts of The Order and turn it into a great franchise. That youtube vid is some pandering bullshit, RAD supporting it is sad. They should be taking their licks on the gameplay and combat/level design front, bounce back from the valid criticism and make a game guys.
JackLongRod
Banned
Got my Platinum early today
loved the game hopefully this gets a sequal
loved the game hopefully this gets a sequal
Finally got the Platinum today!
You know whats funny I just saw the reveal trailer for this game from back in 2013 and I clearly remember thinking "oh great another CG trailer *yawn* ". Wish I could go back in time and slap my past self for that lol. Shows the testament of RAD's work here.
I cant believe its been like a 1+ year and the graphics are out of this world on this console. I really enjoyed this game.
You know whats funny I just saw the reveal trailer for this game from back in 2013 and I clearly remember thinking "oh great another CG trailer *yawn* ". Wish I could go back in time and slap my past self for that lol. Shows the testament of RAD's work here.
I cant believe its been like a 1+ year and the graphics are out of this world on this console. I really enjoyed this game.
Kill it with fire and let's never speak of this again.
CrackaF3tt
Member
lol I never used the crossbow during that part. Only after that part did i use it.
Bearded Skull
Neo Member
I had a lot of fun playing this. It's a shame it took such a beating in reviews. I offered to let a friend borrow it after I beat it, and I almost had to talk him into playing it for free.
I really hope they get to do a sequel. They've laid down the groundwork and I think they could do something great with it.
I really hope they get to do a sequel. They've laid down the groundwork and I think they could do something great with it.
shinobi602
Member
Garbage as in difficult or garbage as in too easy? I had zero problems with it personally. The stealth sections felt like nice changes of pace to me actually.
I actually knife killed everyone thinking this would certainly get me a trophy...only trophy I got in that mission was the "use all weapons" one after a few kills with x-bow. lol
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
He's a technical director on the game, so he's a person on one team in RAD who without question did their job perfectly. People in charge of game design will listen to criticism, I'm sure. What I'm less sure of is if the game will ever get a sequel. Judging by the number of "Thumbs up" on the PS4 menu, I don't think it's selling all that well.
EL CUCO
Member
Just finished my 3rd playthrough. I really enjoyed it the most. It was nice connecting dots and hearing little things said here and there that make a lot more sense when you know what they're referencing.
The complete experience was as immersive and felt as fresh as my first run. This time my wife sat through the entire thing. She liked it as well.
I know I did on my first playthrough.
The complete experience was as immersive and felt as fresh as my first run. This time my wife sat through the entire thing. She liked it as well.
I wonder how many people actually miss the scene after the credits?
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Just beat the game...
Wow. Easily an 8/10 for me.
The voice acting and writing were spot on, the characterization, seemingly lambasted in all reviews, was there and was not lacking. The narrative was unexpected, the plot well placed...I just do not understand the beating it was giving by reviewers.
Every PS4 owner owes it to themselves to at the very least rent this game as it is a sign of amazing things to come, both technically speaking and for next gen gaming as a whole.
There were issues yes and I am certain the QTEs and Cut scenes were not loved by all but I cannot wait to see what RAD will do with this series in the future!
Wow. Easily an 8/10 for me.
The voice acting and writing were spot on, the characterization, seemingly lambasted in all reviews, was there and was not lacking. The narrative was unexpected, the plot well placed...I just do not understand the beating it was giving by reviewers.
Every PS4 owner owes it to themselves to at the very least rent this game as it is a sign of amazing things to come, both technically speaking and for next gen gaming as a whole.
There were issues yes and I am certain the QTEs and Cut scenes were not loved by all but I cannot wait to see what RAD will do with this series in the future!
Nightengale
Member
Are there regional splittings for 'thumbs up' for The Order?
Off the top of my head, The "Thumbs Up" for my version of The Order is only at around a few hundred.
Brad Grenz
Member
I was really sad to hear Jeff and Dan basically talk Drew out of even trying it for himself.
According to a dev who was in the chat during GameTrailers' full playthrough stream last night he was using a Lightning gun that was supposed to be playable in the game before eventually being cut.
Yeah, I've never understood the reverence people have for the series. Didn't play all that remarkably well in my estimation, and the story, setting and visual design are all quite bad.
Yeah, it wasn't really about killing Lucan, it was about all the responsibility and the weight of everyone's sins being piled onto his shoulders in that moment.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Given Igraine's fury and seemingly unwavering rage at Galahad, I would love her to be a sort of Antagonist in the next game. Lafayette will clearly jump ship lol
Gears is pretty fast if you are good at it, in MP and SP. The gameplay and level design for the all important combat/feedback loop is also First Class for TPS.
You can sit back for a bit, but you'll get pushed and overwhelmed if you don't get moving. The mechanics of movement allow for some clever and quick movement, so long as you are able to execute.
You can sit back for a bit, but you'll get pushed and overwhelmed if you don't get moving. The mechanics of movement allow for some clever and quick movement, so long as you are able to execute.
ArkkAngel007
Member
Given how the game was presented, the ending (and epilogue), and things that have been said, the sequel is already in the works. Wouldn't surprise me if Sony and RAD already had a multi-title deal when they started work on the game.
That review is horrible. Wow. Of course homeboy would tweet this.
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
"cheese crossbow"
As if the stealth gameplay they come up with was of any value whatsoever.
Damn, that's sad... to cling on to some super minor YouTuber with an incredibly amateur production as some kind of beacon of truth. What a terrible way to behave in public.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I like how the reason for using the crossbows IIRC is that Lucan says they should move in silence....proceed to brutally murdering dudes OJ style with a knife instead of quietly choking them out.
Somebody getting choked out can still make noise. Shank'em and get it over with.
XxRampage07xX
Member
It looks pretty much like a joke to me
And Sony ain't stupid. They clearly know what to do with their money. If they don't find any available potential in the deal between them and RaD, they will definitely stop it.You're taking his tweet too seriously.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Just finished it. It really feels like things were planned to be a little more fleshed out and they had to wrap it up more quickly than they liked.
I think its worth playing on a rental but there's a lot of dull sections and the actual gameplay isn't very good.
I think it has potential but they kind of missed it and overdid it on the cutscenes.
I agree with the Giant bomb review and a lot of the 6/10 stuff. It fails to be above average in almost anything but graphics.
When it comes to pure gameplay there isn't really anything that elevates it above sub par third person shooters from last gen like army of two or that "wanted" and terminator salvation game that grin made.
I think its worth playing on a rental but there's a lot of dull sections and the actual gameplay isn't very good.
I think it has potential but they kind of missed it and overdid it on the cutscenes.
I agree with the Giant bomb review and a lot of the 6/10 stuff. It fails to be above average in almost anything but graphics.
When it comes to pure gameplay there isn't really anything that elevates it above sub par third person shooters from last gen like army of two or that "wanted" and terminator salvation game that grin made.
I'd be down for some kind of stopgap First Light type of game as well. Just put the engine to more use and make a smaller game, maybe a prequel to flesh out the Knights more. Could also be a nice testing ground for some fresher ideas.
Andronicus
Banned
..lol was this sarcasm?
Chronicles of Riddick: Butcher Bay is still the best shanking stealth game of all time.
My single biggest complaint has nothign to do with the concept or "cinematic game" or it's a cover shooter or QTE stuff or the length or whatever else.
it's this:
it's this:
they fucked up in their portrayal of lycans. Lycans should have been handled with some tension, buildup, some mystique -- some mystery. Maybe we'd see glimpses of them or we'd see the aftermath of a lycan attack, stuff like that. The concept of lycan should be built up in the first half of the game or so before any are encoutnered directly, and when they are encountered directly, they should be tough fights.
Instead of this, what we got was a lycan encounter in the first portion of the game, it's completely without any buildup, it's not important, it felt as though you were dog catchers doing routine business. There was no mystique, no buildup, no tension, and the fight was easy. They fucked up. They had one really cool monster card to play that is part of their fiction and they blew it.
Instead of this, what we got was a lycan encounter in the first portion of the game, it's completely without any buildup, it's not important, it felt as though you were dog catchers doing routine business. There was no mystique, no buildup, no tension, and the fight was easy. They fucked up. They had one really cool monster card to play that is part of their fiction and they blew it.
I just went back to the hall and picked them off slowly
TLOU is a much better TPS than Gears. One of the best controlling TPS there is. Altering between stealth to melee to active combat with guns that sound meaty and powerful is so much smoother. TLOU has a very natural and beautifully implemented cover system which is one of the reasons why the alterations between all the three options works so well. Gears would do well to learn from TLOU going forward. All TPS's should actually.
Gonna disagree wirh you, the gunplay is awful in TLOU jiaf like the uncharted games. They are a chore to play through in that regard. But gameplay is not the focus in those games the cutscenes and plots are the bigger focus. Gears on the other hand is a blast to play
UnwrittenZero
Member
I loved that game so good. God I can't wait for machine games next outing.
M.W.
Member
I tried that but the damn shotgunner runs in and destroys me.
No. TLOU gameplay is superior to Gears IMO. Gears focus on cutscenes is as much as TLOU - the only difference is they are worse. Uncharted 2 has way more combat options than any gears sp campaign and has much better level design. There is a reason both these games have had universal acclaim and are frequently mentioned in best game of the generation lists.
Anyways I think I should stop because it is an Order OT afterall.
Yeah, I guess you didn't play TLOU.
I'd try to just use blacksight on the shotgunners. You can hang back pretty safely for that fight.
When someone says laughable shit like "gameplay isn't the focus" my bullshit detector goes off. Sorry to doubt you.
It's a pretty common complaint with TLOU. Especially on here. I loved the game, but I find the gunplay a chore. It won't hold up years down the line like gears and vanquish will. But yea, not the thread for this discussion.
Gears of war 3 cutscenes length - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrgae5ZTHDc 2 hours and 18 minutes
TLOU cutscenes length https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJpXI8Ao-9I 2 hours and 2 minutes
TLOU is a much much longer game than Gears of War 3.
Lol gameplay is not the focus but cut scenes are apparently in TLOU.
Gears did not top most lists last gen let alone in coming generations. It will most certainly not hold up. Especially for those who like good single player games with good level design.
El-Pistolero
Member
Holy Shit! You either did not play the game, or played it really wrong.
Played it wrong, I guess...
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
TLOU had some of the most memorable combat scenarios in the TPS genre for me. I really loved how that game played. I liked Gears and Gear 2 a lot, too, though. Never played the third. Now Uncharted 3... the shooting in that game felt broken and absolutely frustrating for me. Another one in this genre from last gen that I really enjoyed even though it felt a bit low budget was Binary Domain. I had a blast playing through that and the story was really interesting too.
Anyway, I hope they figure something out for the sequel to The Order. They nailed the feel of the aiming and shooting part in my opinion. It's just the combat scenarios are not very interesting at all.
Anyway, I hope they figure something out for the sequel to The Order. They nailed the feel of the aiming and shooting part in my opinion. It's just the combat scenarios are not very interesting at all.