Captain Tuttle
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I thought they would have used the Killzone 2 engine in more games for the PS3 but they didn't as far as I know. I could be wrong.
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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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Ninja Scooter
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Stop trying to "get" it. Reviews are just another persons opinion, just like mine or yours or anyone else's. Nothing more or less. Stop seeking validation in someone else's opinion. If someone told you they didn't care for steak and you did would you rack your brain trying to figure out why?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
IMO Sony should design just one or two engines for its games.
Its retarded how like, every studio is making its own engine.
They should let Naughty Dog's graphics engine be the one most studios use.
The RAD guys should've used the Uncharted 4 engine. Would've worked well. It does gorgeous character models too.
ver_v3rtigo
Banned
i agree. specially after being to Target and best buy today. the game has been selling out very well. on top of that, most people which have purchased and played the game have been enjoyed it very much. it just shows that reviews from gaming sites dont really hold the weight that they once did.
Bloodborne is not the game we need to worry about, we know the game is 90+ quality already.
it's FFXV, The Witcher 3, No Mans Sky, Assassins Bug 49, SW Battlefront, etc we should be worrying about. I really hope No Mans Sky doesn't disappoint.
Haven't played The Order but I guarantee it looks better than Unity on PS4. Game is blurry and ugly as fuck while running at a garbage framerate. PC tho.... no chance
Has there still been no gameplay shown besides walking and flying around?
Mr. PlayStation
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A buddy of mine sent me a screenshot of him playing The Order 1886 on his PC with PS4 emulator. Is such a thing even possible? I am finding it hard to believe, immediately after he started playing, his Nvidia driver crashed and he pinged me back the screenshot of the error.
After 8 hours in I saw the last Sequenz and I can say I will never give any crap about a review again.
Graphics:
Very Very amazing, I was so amazed I had to take a breathe and realize that this runs real time. The beautiful art direction helps and it is very atmospheric, like the whole game. The sceneries and set pieces are pure art and really suck you in. Really a stunner.
Sound:
Astonishing soundtrack and a very well mixed sound. Maybe one of the best I have ever heard. Voices are clear and hearable. Grenades have huge impact and guns sounds are amazing too. You can really feel the kick and heavyness of the gun just by listening.
Gameplay:
Yes the game is not flawless and far from perfect when talking about gameplay. Too much help from the game itself. To much button smashing and press X to go further. Very corrdiorlike encounters. The guns feel great though, but I hoped for more fancy weapons.
The basic shooting is very good though and the cover mechanics work great.
Story:
The Story is really good even great for a videogame ( I believe games are nowhere near movies and only Last of Us reached a very comparable awesome movie storyline). The Pacing is a little but just a little imperfect. The game starts too slow and ends too quick with slight confusion ( I can totally understand why the game ended that way and why this decision is made). I also disliked that I just got thrown into the world. No Background, no explaining. At the beginning you get lost a little , because you don't understand what is going on, unless you watches all Trailers and Interviews/Making-Ofs.
They should have made an Intro revealing some backstory or other ways to get you more into the Order and the Knight and the Lycans
But overall I really liked the story and was really drawn into it. I wanted to know more. The atmosphere is really tight and superb, while the music delivers everytime, which make the Story even more compelling.
Conclusion:
I really liked the Order and hope for more. I would love the to have a sequel to this awesome foundation. I would not recommend that game to Players, who love exploring and making decisions or open-world fans. The Game is what it wants to be. A cinematic experience with a good to great story and basic gameplay. It sucks you in though and really delivers, when you are open enough to embrace the concept. When you like movielike games and a great Story go for it. I love these kind of games and do not like openworld that much though. I recommend that to everyone, who loves story, atmosphere and great soundtracks. If you like Wolfenstein New Order, Killzone 2 or Resistance you will like this also, I guess.
I really had a fun time and enjoyed the whole cinematic-game-experience and can just say please play that game it really deserves a shot and please give me a even better sequel.
PS: If you are offended by my english skills, I am sorry, but it is not my mothertongue
Graphics:
Very Very amazing, I was so amazed I had to take a breathe and realize that this runs real time. The beautiful art direction helps and it is very atmospheric, like the whole game. The sceneries and set pieces are pure art and really suck you in. Really a stunner.
Sound:
Astonishing soundtrack and a very well mixed sound. Maybe one of the best I have ever heard. Voices are clear and hearable. Grenades have huge impact and guns sounds are amazing too. You can really feel the kick and heavyness of the gun just by listening.
Gameplay:
Yes the game is not flawless and far from perfect when talking about gameplay. Too much help from the game itself. To much button smashing and press X to go further. Very corrdiorlike encounters. The guns feel great though, but I hoped for more fancy weapons.
The Elders encounters and Lycans encounters were a little bit disappointing and kind of underwhelming.
Story:
The Story is really good even great for a videogame ( I believe games are nowhere near movies and only Last of Us reached a very comparable awesome movie storyline). The Pacing is a little but just a little imperfect. The game starts too slow and ends too quick with slight confusion ( I can totally understand why the game ended that way and why this decision is made). I also disliked that I just got thrown into the world. No Background, no explaining. At the beginning you get lost a little , because you don't understand what is going on, unless you watches all Trailers and Interviews/Making-Ofs.
They should have made an Intro revealing some backstory or other ways to get you more into the Order and the Knight and the Lycans
.I did not quite understand why they want to sent Vampires to USA, instead of Wolves ?The Leader were Half-breeds , Elders or the ancient heritages ?
Conclusion:
I really liked the Order and hope for more. I would love the to have a sequel to this awesome foundation. I would not recommend that game to Players, who love exploring and making decisions or open-world fans. The Game is what it wants to be. A cinematic experience with a good to great story and basic gameplay. It sucks you in though and really delivers, when you are open enough to embrace the concept. When you like movielike games and a great Story go for it. I love these kind of games and do not like openworld that much though. I recommend that to everyone, who loves story, atmosphere and great soundtracks. If you like Wolfenstein New Order, Killzone 2 or Resistance you will like this also, I guess.
I really had a fun time and enjoyed the whole cinematic-game-experience and can just say please play that game it really deserves a shot and please give me a even better sequel.
I hate giving numbers, but if I have to it would end up with 7,5 / 10
PS: If you are offended by my english skills, I am sorry, but it is not my mothertongue
For no man's sky I'd be OK if it was just essentially aimless exploration with a bit of shooting inbetween. Anything else on top of that is gravy. I'm more worried that Battlefront will be turned into a Battlefield clone.
BadAss2961
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No... Let Sony's developers keep their creative freedom. It worked on PS3, it'll work now.
Better that than a situation like last gen where every other game used UE3.
TheChewyWaffles
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Ps4 emulator? Maybe a ps TV?
I have prepared for disappointment months ago. They literally have shown nothing besides flying and walking around and the people that defend it and post a list of boring stuff of what you can do ain't exactly inspiring confidence.
Kacho
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Nothing substantial that I'm aware of. There is definitely a giant question mark on that game right now.
Never make too many assumptions about From Software quality. Even with Miyazaki at the head, there's still a lot that could go wrong.
But I hope you're right.
How do we know Bloodborne is "90+ quality already"? While I expect that the game will be good because it comes from an excellent pedigree, I certainly don't know that.
Mr. PlayStation
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No no not PS TV, Order 1886 running on his PC played with an Xbox 360 controller!
Not really. All he is saying is that people who enjoy the game aren't really enjoying the game. It's sophistry.
Screenshots must not be doing the game any justice, because they're pretty equal from what I've seen.
Everything looks better in person, so I won't really know until I play the game myself.
This is so wrong. I don't even...
Mad Season
Banned
My stores were full of the game. Hold your horses on speculation either way until
Numbers get released
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It's really weird to see the fetish-ization of reviewers in this thread to the point where people are questioning their own feelings.
:headscratch:
Freeman
Banned
PS4 emulator? Your buddy is just making fun of you.
Bad reviews affect long tail sales, not week 1 sales. sorry.
I'm glad that video game reviewers have ascended past the pettiness of something as trivial as basic human emotion.
Yes, saying you shouldn't take it personally that a reviewer has a different opinion then you is fetishization.
Right.
It's the reviewers that have an agenda, like you in this thread correct?
Watched a no commentary playthrough as I can't afford too many games nowadays. Agree that that the game has flaws (albeit not 65/100 flaws, but it is what it is). What struck me is the possibility of The Order 2 being this generation's Uncharted 2.
A graphical powerhouse in its first iteration with issues in other areas. But for its second iteration RAD has a finished top-notch engine, which leaves more time to develop gameplay mechanics and story writing.
I mean, they're no Naughty Dog but still, the resemblance is there. Hope they don't waste the opportunity!
A graphical powerhouse in its first iteration with issues in other areas. But for its second iteration RAD has a finished top-notch engine, which leaves more time to develop gameplay mechanics and story writing.
I mean, they're no Naughty Dog but still, the resemblance is there. Hope they don't waste the opportunity!
Mr. PlayStation
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No sir he's not, he's not joking!
iNvid02
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jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
OMG yes!
The reason for that is because developers continue to try and one-up each other with unnecessary epicness in their games. If you increase your scope it won't matter how much the costs go down because you just use the leftover cash to cover the budget for your new ideas.
Basically they really do want to spend $300 million on the game; they just want to spread it around on more crap.
So that's "PC" as in "PlayStation Console"?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
He even said the game was quite laggy on his PC just minutes before it crashed!
Freeman
Banned
Then he is either a time-traveler or a magician.
what's my agenda?
Mr. PlayStation
Member
oh come on, I am seriously asking if you guys have heard of something like this!
Make a thread. I believe you!
The Lead Designer/Producer Dana Jan, essentially mentioned that gameplay was an afterthought for this game. So, unless RaD's tune changes dramatically, the gameplay mechanics will continue to be second fiddle to their graphics and story. If that is the case, the sequel will get shit on like this one did in most Reviews.
You know what, I've got a bridge to sell you...
There is no PS4 emulator on PC end of story.
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Fnord
Member
Agreed. A lot of the reviews remind me of Gene Siskel's movie reviews (frequently). He tended to review a movie based on what he thought the movie should have been rather than what it actually was. Which is unfair to the subject being reviewed. Review what's there, not what isn't there.
ChosenPredator
Banned
yeah this game is visually gorgeous if they can get the other things polished up in the sequel it could be one of the best games ever in this sort of genre.
Captain Tuttle
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I totally agree and it's strange they haven't done this yet, such and increase in effencies.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
Hold on... making new(s) thread!
Fire the game designer, and get someone in there with a practical idea that doesn't rely on the player not engaging.
If there's one third person game they should have imitated, it's Batman:AA. Small locale that you pack full of unique things to interact with, while still having control for a script.
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