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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |OT2| Wanted to find Ciri, but everything Gwent wrong

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Forkball

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Points of interest work much better in Witcher 3 than other open world games for several reasons:

+You don't know what it is until you visit them. Other open world games just throw a lot of shit on the map and it's a chore to go and collect 50 whatever, but you never know what each ? could hold. It could be a group of level 3 bandits, or a level 25 monster. Depending on what you encounter and your level, you can basically have a boss battle at any ?. It adds some mystery and intensity to exploring the landscape.
+You actually get rewards instead of bumping up a number. Many "do X quests" don't pay off until you complete all of them, but not so here. You never know what you will find at each point of interest, whether it just be crafting fodder or an amazing sword. I love finding diagrams for stuff I'm so far away from even crafting yet.
+Many POIs tie in with the area or have a story connected to them. Yeah, monster nests are just monster nests, but a lot of the treasure hunts and bandit camps have notes that flesh out what happened. You can ignore these if you want, but they do provide some context.

They're a good activity to tackle if you tire of the main story or side quests. The game really allows you to do whatever you want based on your current attitude. "I don't want to burn through the story, let me explore the landscape. I'm tired of going to every ?, time to check out some monster contracts. These side quests are too high for my level, maybe I should check out the main story again." etc.
 

I have a manual save file where Geralt is just level 13 and ready to go to Novigrad. Explored quite a lot of "?" in Velen (not all cause there's quite a few that are level 20+ and still show ?? creatures at them) and finished up most side quests up to that level range.

You just need the .sav file right? If so here and it's for v1.04: http://puu.sh/i65YK/4e6a06c77d.rar

I didn't go Roche's path though or saving Triss particularly (but she comes back since she escapes any ways in TW2). BUT, I did spare Letho.

Edit: Woops you may need the image for the save as well, just save this to your save location too: http://puu.sh/i66ao/c351354b79.png
 

Vamphuntr

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Because some don't seem to enjoy the way they play. I'm nto saying to obliterate undiscovered POIs, just make it opt-in instead opt-out so people may enjoy or try to enjoy the happyness of surprise and exploration.Then do it like me and turn then off. It's easy as that.

I stopped caring about the ? marks about 15 hours ago in my playthrough. I was just agreeing with the guy that said when you called out other devs for doing something and you basically do the same it's really shitty. I do find the rewards given by quests to be often terrible though like I said. It's not really rewarding to go through the whole thing and get terrible loot at the end.

I'm burned out on it in part because I don't think the combat is really interesting like I said in my other post. I played for over 50 hours so far and I'm glad I'm almost at the end because I couldn't go for much longer without quitting. I don't need 50 people quoting me and telling me I'm playing the game the wrong way either
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Points of interest work much better in Witcher 3 than other open world games for several reasons:

+You don't know what it is until you visit them. Other open world games just throw a lot of shit on the map and it's a chore to go and collect 50 whatever, but you never know what each ? could hold. It could be a group of level 3 bandits, or a level 25 monster. Depending on what you encounter and your level, you can basically have a boss battle at any ?. It adds some mystery and intensity to exploring the landscape.

I still like Skyrim's system best. Maps are blank and POIs only show up on the compass when you're near enough, encouraging free-form exploration based on geographical features rather than running specifically towards "?" indicators on a map. And even though when you're near enough it tells you whether it's a cave, or a dwemer ruin, or an abandoned towers, those are all indicative of the time commitment required for the location. If I've only got 5 minutes, towers and bandit camps are perfect. If I have half an hour to spare, I might hunt down a ruin.
 

Sanctuary

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So? Those are still not quests. It's like seeing a pack of wolves and going "What? ANOTHER enemy?"

You guys can keep saying they aren't quests, but the game clearly states that they are. In fact, I still have a treasure hunt stuck in my log book being incomplete since level 2 due to me clearing out the needed camp prior to getting tasked in doing so. They might not be "major side quests", but according to the developer, they are still quests.

Wasn't my point anyway though.

Anyone remember [what menial tasks]?
 

GHG

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About point 2. You level up your character mainly with the quests, not with the point of interests. PoI contain loot, in the form of weapons, armor, diagrams, rare crafting materials, etc. But you need to level up to gain more advanced loot. In other words, the best way to play the game, the way the designers intended is mixing it up both: doing some side quests and exploration, then a pair of main quests, then returning back to exploration and contracts, then back again to the main plot.

Some POI are places of power.

Upon completing them you get an instant skill point and in some cases a buff as well.
 

Einchy

semen stains the mountaintops
You guys can keep saying they aren't quests, but the game clearly states that they are.
They might not be "major side quests", but according to the developer, they are still quests.

Wasn't my point anyway though.

Are you trying to do all of them?
 

I made the same choices as you (In terms of Witcher 2), currently just getting into (maybe 2 or so quests in) to Triss's quest path in Novigrad.

Might be able to get you a save file later (working right now, probably shouldn't be on GAF :p)

If you want to know what other options I chose, PM me
 

robotrock

Banned
I have a question concerning a certain quest about Radovid, and a certain quest about Dijkstra in Novigrad.
I have this quest from Radovid about finding Philipa Earheart or whatever, and then I have this quest from Dijkstra about killing Radovid. I don't really want to give Philipa to Radovid, so should I just not do this quest? Or should I kill Radovid and then do this quest? Is it possible to do this Philipa quest for Radovid, but then tell her to avoid Radovid? What do I do! I am no player of roles.
 

Torraz

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Caution: this is probably a very late-game Spoiler question

Just got the "look for backup in the fight to protect Ciri quests". Automatically failed the keira metz one. Does this mean I am automatically screwed?

Low-spoiler answers preferred

thanks
 

abundant

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Yeah, I'm not really sure why CDPR decided to even have the option to see the "Points of Interests." I feel like the sense of discovery in the game would've benefitted from not having them available to see at all, minus maybe if they included the option to purchase treasure maps from vendors to reveal said locations or something equivalent.

That's what they should've done. To unlock PoI, you either buy a map from a vendor or read about it on a note that's placed on the notice board (I know they do this already).
 

Bajan32

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Hey so I keep seeing you guys saying if you drop items o ground they stay there forever. But that doesn't seem to be happening for me. Is there something I'm not understanding? Got all the upgrades to saddlebags but still running out of room. Wanna drop my enhanced Griffin gear and pick it up later but scared it's gonna dissappear
 

Torraz

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Caution: this is probably a very late-game Spoiler question

Just got the "look for backup in the fight to protect Ciri quests". Automatically failed the keira metz one. Does this mean I am automatically screwed?

Low-spoiler answers preferred

thanks

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Static Jak

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I have a manual save file where Geralt is just level 13 and ready to go to Novigrad. Explored quite a lot of "?" in Velen (not all cause there's quite a few that are level 20+ and still show ?? creatures at them) and finished up most side quests up to that level range.

You just need the .sav file right? If so here and it's for v1.04: http://puu.sh/i65YK/4e6a06c77d.rar

I didn't go Roche's path though or saving Triss particularly (but she comes back since she escapes any ways in TW2). BUT, I did spare Letho.

Edit: Woops you may need the image for the save as well, just save this to your save location too: http://puu.sh/i66ao/c351354b79.png
That's actually close to perfect. Thank you so much for that.

Honestly, the choices in Witcher 2 don't really seem to matter anyway, if anything the results of not saving Triss make more sense in 3. Did you save the dragon though or kill Shile?
 
Caution: this is probably a very late-game Spoiler question

Just got the "look for backup in the fight to protect Ciri quests". Automatically failed the keira metz one. Does this mean I am automatically screwed?

Low-spoiler answers preferred

thanks

Did you not do Keira's personal mission? The one that lead to Tower of Mice? The one that makes you decide her fate?
cause if so that's why.

As to whether you're screwed that's hard to answer without spoilers or hints. Just know that the best outcome occurs if you have every possible character there to help.
 

abundant

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Caution: this is probably a very late-game Spoiler question

Just got the "look for backup in the fight to protect Ciri quests". Automatically failed the keira metz one. Does this mean I am automatically screwed?

Low-spoiler answers preferred

thanks

It means you just missed out on one of the better secondary questlines.
 

Chariot

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You guys can keep saying they aren't quests, but the game clearly states that they are. In fact, I still have a treasure hunt stuck in my log book being incomplete since level 2 due to me clearing out the needed camp prior to getting tasked in doing so. They might not be "major side quests", but according to the developer, they are still quests.

Wasn't my point anyway though.

Anyone remember [what menial tasks]?
The treasure hunts are quests, yes, and there are single quests that may involve a point of interest (e.g. in Skellige you have to get a bandit camp, since there is a certain sword somebody wants), but by no means are you obligated to run around and to everything you see. Those things are meant to be there when you want to explore or want to do something to relax from actual quests.
Hopefully Iorveth and Saskia show up there. Since they aren't in the game at all as far as I know.
Indeed. I went with Roche in Witcher 2, but I want to know whatever happened to the Free Pontar Valley.
 

Torraz

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Did you not do Keira's personal mission? The one that lead to Tower of Mice? The one that makes you decide her fate?
cause if so that's why.

As to whether you're screwed that's hard to answer without spoilers or hints. Just know that the best outcome occurs if you have every possible character there to help.

Im pretty sure I actually did that quest... At the end
she stole that guys research, I think, after you liberated the tower on the island

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I have a towerful of mice under completed quests in the log
 
That's actually close to perfect. Thank you so much for that.

Honestly, the choices in Witcher 2 don't really seem to matter anyway, if anything the results of not saving Triss make more sense in 3. Did you save the dragon though or kill Shile?

In TW2 I killed her but when simulating the TW2 save in TW3 I can't remember actually what I responded with when he asked... though I think I did say I killed Sile. Not 100% sure though.
 

Static Jak

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In TW2 I killed her but when simulating the TW2 save in TW3 I can't remember actually what I responded with when he asked... though I think I did say I killed Sile. Not 100% sure though.
Thanks, that's fine either way. Very little comes up in 3 outside of the odd comment and an appearance from Letho for all of 5 minutes. I've played all points of view in 2 so it's good either way.
 

Torraz

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Another spoiler question:

It seems I completely misread/misjudged what the endgame was going to be.

Is there even any drawback to inviting everyone back to the castle? I thought people who do not get along would start murdering each other, if you sent incompatible people to kaer morhen (bit like dark souls), as opposed to the mass effect-esque "gather all your buddies from the galaxy and fight together against a common foe"
 
Another spoiler question:

It seems I completely misread/misjudged what the endgame was going to be.

Is there even any drawback to inviting everyone back to the castle? I thought people who do not get along would start murdering each other, if you sent incompatible people to kaer morhen (bit like dark souls), as opposed to the mass effect-esque "gather all your buddies from the galaxy and fight together against a common foe"

Nope, gotta catch em all, there is a bit of cool dialogue if Roche and letho are both there, but nothing more murdery.
 

KHlover

Banned
Okay I got a REALLY nasty bug on my hands. After the quest where you help Triss save that Alchemist I got my weapons back, but my inventory shows my Silver Sword slot as being empty. The sword is equipped (I can use it and get it back in my inventory by equipping another sword), but now I can't add runes or use oils since it is shown as empty :(
 
Thanks, that's fine either way. Very little comes up in 3 outside of the odd comment and an appearance from Letho for all of 5 minutes. I've played all points of view in 2 so it's good either way.

Yeah so far the only major thing I saw was Letho when you come across him in that side quest in the manor and him in the barn, didn't expect it though.
 

Torraz

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Nope, gotta catch em all, there is a bit of cool dialogue if Roche and letho are both there, but nothing more murdery.

Thank you.

God damn it. First time I play a game, especially as along as this, in a completionist way and it goes completely wrong. So much time wasted.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
spoilers for lvl 6 quest

disapointed that if you
save the tree spirit, he doesnt come back to kill the crones with you
. In fact, nothing changes except a couple of lines of dialogue.

I love that the
Gran ended up being the Baron's wife
tho, how
both quests connected
 

abundant

Member
Another spoiler question:

It seems I completely misread/misjudged what the endgame was going to be.

Is there even any drawback to inviting everyone back to the castle? I thought people who do not get along would start murdering each other, if you sent incompatible people to kaer morhen (bit like dark souls), as opposed to the mass effect-esque "gather all your buddies from the galaxy and fight together against a common foe"

FYI, you're nearing the end of Act 2. There's still one more Act to go.
 
disapointed that if you
save the tree spirit, he doesnt come back to kill the crones with you
. In fact, nothing changes except a couple of lines of dialogue.

It's much more than a couple lines of dialogue, if you kill the
tree spirit
the kids are eaten but Anna survives, meaning the Baron won't kill himself.
 

Applesauce

Boom! Bitch-slapped!
Playing my first round of Gwent and

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Hey so I keep seeing you guys saying if you drop items o ground they stay there forever. But that doesn't seem to be happening for me. Is there something I'm not understanding? Got all the upgrades to saddlebags but still running out of room. Wanna drop my enhanced Griffin gear and pick it up later but scared it's gonna dissappear
Literally no one has been saying that. It's been known since the first day that it doesn't work properly, and as of the last patch, it may not work at all for any platform. Don't do it. It's not how the system is meant to be used.
holy shit the enhanced feline armor is the best looking armor i've ever seen in a game.
I have it and I really like it as well. The problem is that the Superior and Mastercraft armor look meh in comparison.
 
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