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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt |OT2| Wanted to find Ciri, but everything Gwent wrong

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Mohonky

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Can you parry / counter the attacks of all creatures In this game?

No problems doing a parry or attack on humans, and I have rarely been able to pull off a counter against a dog or wolf, but for many creatures I find trying for a counter usually just ends with me being hit so I have stuck with dodge a lot. Am I just timing it wrong or is counter not always usable?
 
Can you parry / counter the attacks of all creatures In this game?

No problems doing a parry or attack on humans, and I have rarely been able to pull off a counter against a dog or wolf, but for many creatures I find trying for a counter usually just ends with me being hit so I have stuck with dodge a lot. Am I just timing it wrong or is counter not always usable?

No, most humongous monsters can't be parried.
 
What a standup guy. Thank god he's around. If Geralt's only male friend was Dandelion I'd really have to grit my teeth through some of this stuff.
I wanna run my fingers through his mohawk.

Dandelion, even if he's an moron, is awesome too. I mean. I like Zoltan fine. But we all know who is Geralt's best bro, no contest
Regis ;____;
 

Philtastic

Member
... since a focus of the game is on preparation for a battle..why isn't there a sneaking option where you can scout what enemy is there in order to prepare in time?
Your scouting is witcher sense. You can hear the enemies ahead (thus figure out what they are) and locate them by the wavy circles.

I am really bad at combat in this game. I remember being really bad at Witcher 2, too, (choo?), but got better as the game progressed. I never seem to be able to dodge stuff unless the tell is super obvious, so I'm mainly facetanking stuff and spamming light attacks, acting on the notion that food never ends, so I can just heal after.
Okay, seriously... what am I doing wrong with dodging and rolling? I'm finding it damn near impossible to enter a fight with multiple beasts and come out of it without a huge chunk of health missing. I've started treating combat like Bloodborne where I just get one or two hits in, then backroll to put distance between between myself and the group, but it always seems like the three or four other enemies attack at the same time, with damn near infinite range, and always during the roll, leaving the act of dodging completing pointless if I'm losing the health anyways.
For fast enemies, you may need to pre-emptively dodge since waiting for them to glow red might be too late for a normal person to react to. You also need to dodge in a direction such that they don't actually make contact with you: there are no invincibility frames. Basically, you'll want to practise dodging without attacking to the point where you can both survive indefinitely and you have a good feel for when an enemy will attack. For multiple fast enemies, positioning is important so that you can see all of them and so that your signs hit all/most of them to give you an opening. Opening with a crowd controlling bomb might also help you cut one of them down before the rest can get into the fight while other bombs can give you direct AoE damage to soften them up.

Here's a combat tutorial that I made for a visual representation of these and tips other people have given you that might make it clearer. Most notably, you'll see that I pre-emptively dodge a lot. Not only does this ensure that you get out of the way but you'll finish the dodge earlier which makes it more likely that you'll get a successful counter attack in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFm5qHBRcuU

Anybody got a good guide/video showing how the hell to play Gwent? The in game tutorial is useless or I'm completely stupid.

At the start where you lay all the cards out and try get the highest overall number, I can do that and win. but it's the other two rounds. i have no idea what is going on.
Gwent appears to be a game about getting a higher strength total but, really, it's a game of card management. The metagame is to be ahead of the opponent in number of cards in your hand which stems from the simple fact that whoever runs out of cards first will most likely lose. You can get ahead of your opponent through a number of ways, including winning with the fewest number of cards (ie. beat their total by 1 point), baiting the enemy to use many and/or high value cards when you intend to lose that round, using decoys to bring high value cards or spies back into your hand, using spies to get more cards, healers to bring discarded unit cards back into play, and using abilities that let you play cards directly from your deck. To ensure that you draw your best cards, you want as trim a deck as you can possibly make: remove as many of your low value, no ability cards and maybe most of your weather cards depending on what your overall strategy might be.

Some scenarios to help you think about this:
1) First round, opponent goes first. Going first is a disadvantage because the 2nd player will always be able to react to what the 1st does. If 1st player plays a card, 2nd player has the choice to pass and gain a card advantage or play a card that matches what 1st player did... or not match it and force the 1st player to decide if their strength total is good enough. If 1st player passes to conserve cards, the 2nd player can put as many cards in to win the round. This is also why the winner of the round goes first in the next round.
2) First round, you go first. Because you need to conserve cards for subsequent rounds, the 1st round is always the most interesting because you will either want to lose the round while needing the opponent to waste cards OR you will want to win the round but with as few cards as possible. Since I have spy cards, I generally intend to lose the 1st round since spies count toward the opponent's total so I will play both my spies and my lowest strength cards to prolong this round to make the opponent waste higher value cards. Sometimes, however, the AI passes early with only a moderate total, thus I might switch to winning the round if I can achieve a win with only 1-2 cards which will put me roughly equal with or only 1 card behind the opponent's card hand.
3) Second round, you won the first round so going first. If you won the first round, you now have more options: you can go all-in to win the game OR you can do a bait round where you intend to lose but want the opponent to waste cards, especially since the opponent has to win to stay in the game. In the 2nd round, I usually have 7-10 cards in my hand which might give you an estimate for how many cards you should be saving. This situation is where decoys and medics really shine since you can play your highest non-hero cards to force your opponent to match them but then bring them back into your hand or raise them from the dead in the next round.
etc.

I hope that gives you some ideas for decks and strategies. To reiterate, your goal is to get ahead of your opponent in terms of cards in your hand because whoever runs out of cards first will probably lose. As a very general guideline, play your lowest value cards first to hopefully force the other player to play higher value cards or to pass early to conserve cards.
Edit: Here's a recording I had of my first Gwent game vs. a monster deck. I really baited out something sweet there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjByf3-_ODU
 

Corpsepyre

Banned
Strolling through Skellige, with The Fields of Ard Skellig playing in the back, is almost akin to having a moment of utter clarity. Such beauty.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
Yen going by book canon is also a hunchback and over 100 years old. Triss is in her 30s I believe. Heh

All the sorceress supposedly use magic to enhance their looks though. Gestalt would be better off staying single and collecting those sex cards like in witcher 1. :p
 
Ok, so on PS4, pressing touchpad brings up the menu, and noticed swiping up or down brings up the map straight away (which is what I use since I found that out, swipe up, left trigger, to go to inventory, feels faster than, press, left stick, X),

So anyway, any other shortcuts like that?

If not, I noticed a CDPR guy reads this thread, so suggestions:
Swipe left -> inventory
Swipe right -> Quests

Can we get this for next patch? :)

Oh dude.
If you press down on the touch pad and kind of hold it for a second it goes straight to the inventory!
 

pakkit

Banned
Getting the XP bug has allowed me to focus on the important parts of this game: Gwent.

These merchants at Skellige are no joke. It usually takes a few tries, but I eventually win.

The only bummer is that, despite having a playable deck for each faction, only the Northern Realms deck is developed enough that I can consistently win or put up a challenge. I had a match against an innkeep go to 3 rounds, since we tied the first two. Ended up winning by two points.
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Before the game came out, I kind of hated the fact that the cards had characters within the world on the cards, since it doesn't really work with the fiction, but I've come around. The cards serve as yet another avenue for newcomers to be introduced to characters, and, when dealing with a universe as massive and developed as the Witchers, every bit helps. It's gotta be one of the best minigames I've encountered.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
So why the fuck is the sun rising at 3 A.M? Pretty much the only thing that bothers me about this game.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
so is the no xp bug supposed to be no xp from some quests, or not at all? im confused

sometimes I dont get xp, most times I do tbh, and im grossly overlvled. but just now I didnt get xp from the last part of the
Trish quest (I assume its the last part since she fucked off with her mage buddies in the boat)
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
Just fought Jenny of the Woods. Damn ghost hit too hard. I had to constantly dodge and put Quen between my attacks and Yrden. Wasn't a very fun fight, and survived with only a tiny bit of health left.
 

CoolOff

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Just fought Jenny of the Woods. Damn ghost hit too hard. I had to constantly dodge and put Quen between my attacks and Yrden. Wasn't a very fun fight, and survived with only a tiny bit of health left.

She's a level 12 quest right? I fought her at 17 on the third difficulty, and it was still a pain. Used the enhanced oil + some decoction, and Yrden'd the fuck out of her.
 
Yen going by book canon is also a hunchback and over 100 years old. Triss is in her 30s I believe. Heh

1) Geralt suspects she was a hunchback, but loves her anyways.
2) Triss is not in her 30s.
So why the fuck is the sun rising at 3 A.M? Pretty much the only thing that bothers me about this game.
Have people never heard of Midnight sun in the Arctic? The sun rose at 3AM when I was in Norway a few years back.
 

Verger

Banned
Yeah the 3am sunrise threw me off at the start and then I remembered this is based on Poland fiction so I just assumed it gets an early rise over there

Again, I cannot keep contained my compliments to their day/night lighting system. The guys who implemented that should be given technical awards as I'm constantly awed at sunrise and sunset and whenever clouds are overhead. :O

Seriously, the last time I was enthralled by such a thing was Zelda: Ocarina of Time
 

pakkit

Banned
The Witcher is a series about geriatrics having sex.

I really hope they eventually allow time-lapse meditation for the PC version. I know it was planned (and shown to the press) a few times. The weather system deserves some time-lapse appreciation.
 

Leezard

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The Witcher is a series about geriatrics having sex.

How old is Geralt, again? Eskel and Lambert don't look terribly old, and they (Lambert at least) are supposed to be the same age. I guess Witchers age slower, but Lambert doesn't look to be much more than in his forties.
 

Tovarisc

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How old is Geralt, again? Eskel and Lambert don't look terribly old, and they (Lambert at least) are supposed to be the same age. I guess Witchers age slower, but Lambert doesn't look to be much more than in his forties.

At the beginning of W3 you can learn that Geralt is almost decade old.
 

Kamina

Golden Boy
Relationship spoiler:

What's the point in having the option to turn down Yennefer before the sex scenes when simply telling her thet He loves her is enough to trigger the the fucking Threesome? I wanted to be polite back then and turned her down at the Sex offers so Geralt would end up with Triss.
 

Bessy67

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Is there any point to saving your starting swords? I still have the generic Witcher's silver and steel swords but if they're not required to craft something I want to get rid of them. Oh, and you needed the Kaer Morhen armor to make the Warrior's Leather Jacket, but do you need that to make something better or is that the end product? If that's the final product I'll sell that too.
 

El Jaffe

Member
1) Geralt suspects she was a hunchback, but loves her anyways.
Not sure if I remember it correctly, but in the Last Wish book
Didn't Geralt see how Yen is without all the Magic glamour stuff (saw she was a hunchback) then immediately made the ambiguous last wish that binder them?
 

El Jaffe

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Is there any point to saving your starting swords? I still have the generic Witcher's silver and steel swords but if they're not required to craft something I want to get rid of them. Oh, and you needed the Kaer Morhen armor to make the Warrior's Leather Jacket, but do you need that to make something better or is that the end product? If that's the final product I'll sell that too.
No there isnt. When the game came out someone started a rumour that the best gear in the game is the upgraded starting gear so I held onto that equipment for 100hrs. And there was no such thing.
 

Flipyap

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He managed to make you world famous, what more do you want.
Probably the exact opposite of that? It can't feel nice to hear your best friend publicizing every awkward thing that ever happened to you, or the things you tell him in secret.
In the end, all of that just gives Geralt an urban legend status. He's effectively a homeless celebrity. What more could you want?

~100. And I think Lambert is the youngest, also he's the last Witcher recruited I think.
Officially, that's just guesswork. The author has always been loose with dates (which never quite add up) and describes Geralt's age as some unknown number "over 50".
This game likes to remove any remaining ambiguity, so yeah, in video game fanfic canon, he's around 100.
 
Not sure if I remember it correctly, but in the Last Wish book
Didn't Geralt see how Yen is without all the Magic glamour stuff (saw she was a hunchback) then immediately made the ambiguous last wish that binder them?
I'm pretty sure
he doesn't see her without it, but it's kind of like Geralt's tracking detective work. He notices how she moves, how she looks at things, how she looks at him and he thinks that under the glamour, he sees a hunchback. And of course, what the Wish means is up to debate anyways.
 
How old is Geralt, again? Eskel and Lambert don't look terribly old, and they (Lambert at least) are supposed to be the same age. I guess Witchers age slower, but Lambert doesn't look to be much more than in his forties.

Eskel and Geralt are from the same class, Geralt is about a century old at least.

Lambert is from one of the last witcher classes and is the youngest Witchers left.
 
Dumb question: can someone help me understand how to block? Every time I hold left trigger to guard, an enemy hits me and I get stunned for a few seconds. What am I missing?
 

Broank

Member
lol Geralt egging on Ciri to
mess up Avallach's laboratory.
These two are too damn cute. Finally gonna finish the game tonight I think.
 

frontovik

Banned
Has anyone been able to acquire any of the following:

- Redanian Halberdier Armor
- Nilfgaardian Armor
- Witch Hunter Armor

If so, where did you find them?
 
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