So why do you think the 5800x3d is being outperformed by the 7000 series CPUs like the 7600? Im not too familiar with those new CPUs. Did AMD up the clocks to finally hit 5.0 ghz? maybe this engine prefers higher clocks?
Starfield loves
Comparing their own individual advancement doesn't mean much when compared against everything else. Like I'm a pretty shitty cook, if I somehow manage to make a half decent meal I can't be like "holy shit I'm basically Gordon Ramsey!", cause compared to everything else it's probably still mediocre at best. But I do agree this is their best game in many ways when considering performance and graphics, it's a really good foundation for a sequel whenever that comes. It also in a roundabout way makes me more excited for the next Elder Scrolls cause I think whatever issues they have here they will try and take care of for that game. Hopefully they do as you said and ditch the current engine, it's really long in the tooth at this point, and if any game deserves a new engine it's the next Elder Scrolls.
I mean, yeah. I unironically think this is the real answer. Frankly, I'm surprised Starfield runs as well as it does on the Creation Engine. There's got to be so much duct taped code in there, I bet it's a huge mess.
"We optimized as far as this shitcan old engine allowed us to"
There, i fixed it.
You are being facetious. You don't even try to hide it.
Well there you go. Higher clocks it is. Blame amd for releasing so many 4 ghz cpus when Intel was hitting 5 ghz easily years ago. I was looking at 3600 benchmarks and it tops out at 4.1 ghz. Like come on, are we surprised by this? This isn't the first game that prefers higher clocks. Matrix demo and most ue5 and ue4 games also perform better on higher clocks. The only difference between this and other games is that starfield is designed for next Gen cpus running at 3.6 ghz so it makes sense that in order to double the console framerate you would need way higher clocks than 4 to 4.5 ghz.
He probably meant they optimised it when the engine was first used, nothing has changed since then right?
it could be l2 cache too
I will never not understand why this isn't more of a thing.
Pat yourself on the back "hack" we're all waiting on your game that your directing from the development studio that you've been running for the past 25 years.
I'm too lazy to pull up old posts of mine from 2020 where i brought up concerns about how pc cpus will have issues doubling the framerate of these next gen games designed around 3.5 ghz 8 core 16 thread CPUs.
Last gen games dude. Starfield vs hogwarts and borderlands 3 is like asking why tlou part 1 runs at 60 fps no PS5 and starfield doesnt.Most games scale better with cache, than with clock speed. Starfield is an abnormality.
Even 13th gen got a good boost in performance in games from doubling the L2 cache per core.
And Zen4 also doubled it's cache from Zen3.
Even UE games scale better with cache, than with clocks. For example.
So if Neil Druckman or Cory comes out and says that their next game is next gen game only and tells PS4 owners to upgrade, would you say they are hacks?
lmao. why?
The comparable hardware in the XSX runs it at 1080 upscaled and 30fps. How would a 3060 run it that much better?
Thats true, but look at the steam reviews. mostly positive reviews. PC gamers arent stupid. they know what their cards can or cannot do. I remember buying a 2080 in 2019 to run all PS4 games at native 4k 60 fps and i did until i ran into ray tracing games like control which i had to run at 960p internally to get a locked 60 fps. did i bitch and moan? I dont know maybe i did. But its the price i was willing to pay for ray traced debris at 60 fps. Every pc gamer who has tried to run ray traced games since 2018 knows what their PCs can and cannot do.
and yet you must upgrade you GPU to run this crap ass engine running this crap ass animations, look at this shit and compare with the other two
Anime dating sim has been doing this static NPC interaction since the 90', time to upgrade that shit Todd.
Elder Scrolls VI is using the same engine as Starfield IIRC. It's got some improvements according to BGS, but it's the same at its core.
It´s Not Clocks actually, it´s Bandwith, Starfield Scales Very well with Ram Speed.Most games scale better with cache, than with clock speed. Starfield is an abnormality.
Even 13th gen got a good boost in performance in games from doubling the L2 cache per core.
And Zen4 also doubled it's cache from Zen3.
Even UE games scale better with cache, than with clocks. For example.
Us console peasants lurking in the thread watching PCMR go mad:
Your neogaf gold refreshes the thread at 30fpsUs console peasants lurking in the thread watching PCMR go mad:
Yeah. Just get a 360, bitches!He learned from the best
Neon City and Akila City look way better.
Yes. He's a lil guy.
