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Tom Clancy's The Division |OT 3| Crafted From 150 OT 2s
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nope, no armor mods:
sentry chest - 1765 (268) previous 1530 (240)
TA mask - 437
sentry kp - 1044
TA bp - 1058
TA gloves - 434
TA holster - 1000
ill take an updated screen cap when i get back. replacing my mask with a 268 will be hard cause it has 2 modslots
main stat of the backpack is skill power everything else is stamina....are you saying to roll off armor (the extra armor) and add +skill power? ill try that since its still a 240, atleast i've established the armor cap, just need to find the right gear pieces
How do you determine when you have excess armor? Or excess anything for that matter?
Yes. Both mask and backpack should have additional skill power as their major attribute on them. That goes for every build. It's an easy and free way to get skill power without sacrificing anything else.
i see, all my mod slots have stamina mods with skill power attributes. ill do what you recommended and see how that works out. guess i can experiment a little
EL CUCO
Member
Lol I was running with 368k last night and felt like the lvl 35 snipers were dropping me with one shot.
Armor cap is at 5358
You are supposed to play this like a cover shooter now for real. You will never see me outside a maxed out Smart Cover. 120k toughness ain't so bad with 75% damage reduction from Smart Cover. I'd rather kill things quickly.
Eh if you have a competent team that does in on the left it takes like 20 minutes for a run. Just don't do it from the fucking pit.
GustyGardens
Banned
I have 226K Toughness with 42K Skill power. I run Smart Cover & Pulse or Overdose & Pulse, depending on the situation. The damage reduction is beautiful and I can melt through enemies pretty nicely.
Thank you!
that's the thing, i don't have a team. my friends stopped playing eons ago, all my FL challenge clears were via matchmaking.
i doubt i'll be lucky enough to land in a competent team that knows to do it from left side. i'll try to roll the dice later tho
i already got 4 piece sentry 268 (bp, chest, mask, holster), you have to farm the supply drops. concentrate on the ones that drop in DZ6 and 5...the lower dz drops has a chance of 268 but i always get a 229 item.
we tend to sit in a checkpoint and wait for the drop and keep server transferring after that for a chance to collect more. havent played any of the incursions since the update, tried heroic on FL and wiped on the last wave! not doing that shit again
yeah i pretty much spent all day yesterday in DZ6 and going after supply drops. only got one tactician's, backpack. i get a bunch of final measures, nomads and lone stars.
i will try that checkpoint/server transfer tip tho.
also, my luck with this game is the worst, 4 talent rerolls on my m1a trying to get accurate or capable and nada, so i'm out of phoenix credits for another roll, i try to roll bleed or coolheaded on my x-45 and first talent that pops up is accurate lol
also the amount of garbage talents in the pool is still shocking to me. i mean, "restored" lmao
MythicReclaimer
Member
I can't even imagine such a low Toughness rating being remotely viable for CM/Heroic Operations/Incursions (especially Operations w/ the Mad Skills Directive active). You will at times find yourself without Smart Cover, needing to move, getting flanked, needing to revive teammates, etc where you will simply be a liability. You better be melting enemies simply by looking in their direction.
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I think the game was initially pushing the player into a balanced build direction upon release only to have most people use a Sentry's/Striker build which they countered with a push towards a Tank/Skill build to supposedly balance things out only to push it again back towards balanced builds with active talents, etc.
With the current state of the game and requirements of active talents my base builds start at 200K DPS, 400K Toughness, and 30K Skill Power while using First Aid w/Overdose and mostly Smart Cover (with a little Flashbang and Pulse mixed in from time to time). All weapon talents active.
My main is at 250K, DPS, 400K Toughness, and 30K Skill Power.
My alt is at 320K DPS, 420K Toughness, and 31K Skill Power.
In any case, the game is definitely back to being a "cover shooter" and that's a good thing.
Just hit Rank 30 in the Underground. Rank 31 is 20,000 XP away with seemingly each additional rank going up another 1000+ XP. That said, multi-phase Operations with all Directives active sure do provide some tense moments.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
The DZ drop nerf is real. Green sealed caches are much rarer now, yellow drops are turning into HE armor more frequently than weapons 
The DZ drop nerf is real. Green sealed caches are much rarer now, yellow drops are turning into HE armor more frequently than weapons
just wait for supply drops then keep transferring servers lol
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
i have plenty of nomad and lone stars thank you very much
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Nope, but the new one will drop with +armor destruction.
All named weapons are locked to their original GS.
Midas will always be 182, Hungry Hog and Warlord will always be 204, Showstopper will always be 229 and so on..
Insane Metal
Member
I am finally free again.
Haven't played much the last few days, been working a lot
Haven't played much the last few days, been working a lot
Insane Metal
Member
But what does it change outside of a stronger sticky bomb?
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
true
gave up on the dps chase a while ago
smart cover basically negates the loss of dps while running a tanktician build
only downside is not being able to activate multiple weapons talents.
Smart cover and pulse at max and always on.
Basically it gives you a huge toughness and DPs boost as long as you can keep the tactician bonus on.
I tried the heroic Hudson camp mission. Even with max smart cover and 2pc final measure the rc cars still melt you. The added bosses at the end and infinite respawning rushed made it harder to solo but its doable.
Insane Metal
Member
stronger smart cover with 100% uptime. short downtime on heals and signature. me solo with only 400k toughness vs 4 rogues and they couldn't drop me due to conceal smart cover plus the heals i get back pretty quick, and i run 2 final measure + 4 sentry so i leisurely switched to my pistol marked two of them switched back to my smg dropped them both since i get a huge boost to my dps with smart cover, and watched the other two run away
i tried going back to dps+stamina it just doesn't work for me anymore, i find myself hating the cooldown on my skills and missing the buffs.
@death that build is crazy
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Might as well use nomad and hunters faith.my alt build without 4 tactician is 640k toughness, can get to 700k with lone star sets
I wish this game had a class system instead of this fuckery that we got now.
MythicReclaimer
Member
I would have been fine with scaling HE gear and individual unique talents (just more of them). You could even have "sets" with those as you kind of already do just not with the set-like bonuses currently but instill some kind of synergy or added perk for using an entire Tactical, Gunslinger, Spec-ops, etc sets.
I find individual talents on armor/gear much more interesting than the gear sets and having weapons with no talents active just seems weird / boring to me in this game, I don't get why so many go with builds that simply void talents.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
10 hours of DZ today.
Everything was lone star, hunters and nomads. Even supply drops. Got 1 usable gun.
Everything was lone star, hunters and nomads. Even supply drops. Got 1 usable gun.
I tried joining you a few times, but it kept saying your group was full. Then again, I would've been melted in DZ6 easily.10 hours of DZ today.
Everything was lone star, hunters and nomads. Even supply drops. Got 1 usable gun.
Northern_Manny
Member
Still no G36 drop for me, what have I done to deserve this
I think they are a myth lol
I think they are a myth lol
PuppetSlave
Member
Still no G36 drop for me, what have I done to deserve this
I think they are a myth lol
I got an G36 C with gear score 163. 28k better DPS then my old AK47 with gear score 204. lol
MythicReclaimer
Member
Still no G36 drop for me, what have I done to deserve this
I think they are a myth lol
I have eight of the 229 variety in my stash, two on each of my characters, and have sold a handful as well. I get nothing but those and the new snipers from Underground caches.
The two I use the most have Deadly, Brutal, and Fierce & Accurate, Deadly, and Ferocious. I know how folks feel about "accuracy" in The Division but the latter one there absolutely shreds, God tier.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Did both hard missions, the challenge mission, a heroic mission, and a challenge incursion last night and didn't get a single damn usable thing :\
Are there any spots with Tactician gear drops more than others? Since I can't find another AlphaBridge piece for the life of me to try the four piece bonus maybe I'll look to TA shit.
Are there any spots with Tactician gear drops more than others? Since I can't find another AlphaBridge piece for the life of me to try the four piece bonus maybe I'll look to TA shit.
Interesting.
Damn @DeathJr that build is boss.
Skill Power scaling because of TA 4 piece (shooting range)? Base without it should be around 25-30k judging by the electronics.
Similar numbers when the talent is fully active
I've been getting some decent 240 items on heroic Lexington. Improved my build quite abit farming this as I still was running some 214's.
Insane Metal
Member
Sorry for yesterday ruthles, I was just fucking around with another group for a while then logged out.
About that build of yours, I seriously don't understand how you can get 500+ toughness while still having almost 200k dps. I fucked around with my inventory and managed to get 500+ toughness but my dps goes to around 100k. :|
About that build of yours, I seriously don't understand how you can get 500+ toughness while still having almost 200k dps. I fucked around with my inventory and managed to get 500+ toughness but my dps goes to around 100k. :|
MythicReclaimer
Member
I only have 1362 Electronics on one of my characters and have 32K Skill Power because of the use of +SP mods and +SP as Major Attributes on the mask and backpack. It also looks like the DPS is scaling as well due to Smart Cover. Nice build regardless although the lack of weapon talents is a real downer for me, it's kind of like having a weapon in Destiny and not activating any of the perks/customization.
Edit: It definitely is as you can see an active Smart Cover on the sand bags.
GustyGardens
Banned
Where can I get Stamina mods with Skill Power? I got new gloves last night, and they boost my Toughness, but lower my Skill Power a few thousand. I bought the blueprints from the Base of Operations vendor, but I can't seem to roll SP.
MythicReclaimer
Member
Try running Heroic Lexington 5-10 times as that should provide a decent chance at getting one (32 power level as well) although you are ultimately at the mercy of RNG.