With you on this, 1.4 is the cats ninth life. For those that are still playing and those waiting to see what 1.4 brings it needs to hit the ground running and wow people again to get the buzz talk back in the game and for people to be excited/look forward to 1.4, anything less is not an option.
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With you on this, 1.4 is the cats ninth life. For those that are still playing and those waiting to see what 1.4 brings it needs to hit the ground running and wow people again to get the buzz talk back in the game and for people to be excited/look forward to 1.4, anything less is not an option.
That's it? Cool, I'll go back to having forgotten this game exists.
We don't know son.
We have like NO info about anything now. Just little tidbits like "FL will get checkpoints".
No one can tell you if 1.4 will fix the game or not.
Not talking about the whole 1.4 patch but just the PTS.
I see no point in delaying the PTS (unless it's unplayable) because the point of it is to get feedback from more people and apply changes when necessary.
Delaying it means that more people will think think that the update is gonna be in later October, by which the game will most likely be dead.
I see no point in delaying the PTS (unless it's unplayable) because the point of it is to get feedback from more people and apply changes when necessary.
Delaying it means that more people will think think that the update is gonna be in later October, by which the game will most likely be dead.
I know you are just talking about the PTS and I am just saying that the PTS will not be seen as a test server. It will be seen as the statement of what the game will be when 1.4 will release and if they don't have ALL the big stuff in the PTS when they open it up, the community will go ham and paint a grim picture of doom even worse than they already are.
Massive needs to have absolutely everything in there to show it off because the community will not understand "it's a test server,more is coming".
What?
They didn't say it's a final representative of 1.4.
The TS in PTS means test server how could you confuse that for the final build.
Because that's how gaming communities are.
Facts mean nothing, hyperbole is almost everything and they will distort things through shitposting.
People will start the PTS on the first day, see what is different and say "This is it. This is what they did. It's not enough, get fucked Massive" even if Massive plastered a huge "THIS IS JUST 30% OF THE CHANGES" all over their screens.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
What are they even planning to change?
Having played hundreds of hours in the DOTA 2 test server I don't agree with you.
People know that there purpose of a PTS is to test changes and gather feedback.
Sure you'll have people who will complain at anything but I doubt they'll make the majority.
DOTA 2 isn't The "GAME IS DEAD OMG EVERYONE RUN" Division though.
EL CUCO
Member
The last SOTG gave us a heads up of what kinda chages to expect.
https://youtu.be/4UNINMJEDuE
Edit: Didnt realize Skill Up put up another video breaking down what we should expect.
https://youtu.be/WFIfYQDRXl0
Here is a very detailed written summary of the Elite Task Force meeting written by one of the participants:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/52hvtz/my_elite_task_force_summary_and_impressions/
Now,I am not saying I suddenly have huge hopes, but it does at least read very positive.
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/52hvtz/my_elite_task_force_summary_and_impressions/
Now,I am not saying I suddenly have huge hopes, but it does at least read very positive.
MaKTaiL
Member
Guys, the Gold Edition is on sale on PSN this week for $49,99 and I'm thinking of getting it. How is the game nowadays? I heard the game was full of exploits people used a lot to grind and get better gear back in the day. They kept releasing patches, which was good, but people would still find new exploits. I heard nothing more from the game since then. How is the community? I am torn between getting this or Destiny's DLC. I only have $50 to spare.
None of us know if the 1.4 patch in October is going to change the endgame so fundamentally that it becomes as fun as the leveling experience.
I would advise you (and I am saying this as someone who really loved his time with the game and also has the gold edition) to wait and pick up Destiny for now.
We all have no idea if the game is heading the right way or not.
MaKTaiL
Member
Hmmmm. I played a lot of the Beta back then and loved it. My hype was strong for it but I didn't have any money. Then I heard about all the problems and completely forgot about the game until today. I'll think about it. Destiny is my most played PS4 game but the DLC might not be worth $30. Oh... decisions, decisions. Hahahaha.
The DLC is worth 30$.
You'll easily get 30 hours out of it,if not more and that's 1$ an hour.
With Division,right now, the 1-30 is great and then it bombs hard.
1.4 patch MIGHT fix the after 30 bomb, but no one knows if it will.
MaKTaiL
Member
Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll get Destiny's DLC after all. I'll keep checking in here once the patch comes out and if it indeed fixes the end game I might get it down the line.
Chuck the Bean
Member
Yup... I don't understand why that is...
I kept hoping to see it again,but alas
and I REALLY love the glowing blacklight graffitis too!
Insane Metal
Member
I finally logged in again to get my supply drop. A shitty M60 and Alpha Bridge gloves.
Amazing.
Amazing.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Seemed like a complete waste of alot of cool assets to only use it once.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
World levels hmm...
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
RIP lvl 34 and lvl 35 NPC's 
If the loot scales with you.... How do you get better loot to take on higher levels?
It means that tier 1 will drop loot so you can do tier 2 and tier 2 drops for tier 3 and tier 3 for tier 4 and tier 4 drops the highest loot.
it doesn't scale with you,but with the tier.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Very impressed by 1.4 changes so far.
Some cool changes in theory that give more variety, but for now it just sounds like they enabled easy mode. Hopefully there'll still be activities that will feel challenging for people who already have best GS equip for practically all sets.
The way the difficulty scales atm is of course super lame (just more HP/Damage), but at least you can't rush through the DZ or heroic UG/Incursions even with the best equipment.
Of course too early to tell since we don't know all the changes to skills and equip, but they already said several times that people will feel more powerful with 1.4. Hopefully they don't exaggerate with that.
I hope they get the PTS up soon because that's what's going to be the thing that makes the numbers work in the live version.
It needs to go into peoples hands so they can mek and break it and then they adjust the numbers to make it fun/challenging
I have to say, I am happy that for the first time in a long while can we actually see something like a glimmer of hope for the game at the end of the tunnel
Ah, this sounds good. So Tier 4 on heroic hopefully will be exactly for those kind of players I mentioned in my last post.
MythicReclaimer
Member
"Heroic will only be available for Incursions"
Well this is a bit confusing, I hope that does not mean what I think it means..the best gear in the game will be relegated to one PvE activity yet again.
If heroic difficulty is Incursion only then what is this...
"Tier 4 (Level 33 enemies – GS 229 loot ) – heroic mode in Incursions"
...that you can supposedly select as a global difficulty. Is it just for Incursions? If so, well, that sucks.
I would be bored to tears with...
"Tier 3 (Level 32 enemies – GS 204 loot )"
...for the rest of the game activities.
Well this is a bit confusing, I hope that does not mean what I think it means..the best gear in the game will be relegated to one PvE activity yet again.
If heroic difficulty is Incursion only then what is this...
"Tier 4 (Level 33 enemies – GS 229 loot ) – heroic mode in Incursions"
...that you can supposedly select as a global difficulty. Is it just for Incursions? If so, well, that sucks.
I would be bored to tears with...
"Tier 3 (Level 32 enemies – GS 204 loot )"
...for the rest of the game activities.
EL CUCO
Member
From what I understood, your world level dictates the lvl of the enemy across the entire game. There are 4 tiers of world levels.
The higher difficulties will reward the same loot, only more of it. Not sure what kind of challenges are in place for the higher difficulties. Maybe they go with modifiers?
Nah, that just means you can choose heroic only for Incursions. You still can switch to normal/hard/challenging Tier 4 for everything else. And you don't get better loot for increasing the difficulty in a tier, you just get more of it. So that means that Incursions probably are supposed to drop the most loot, that's why they're the only option for heroic.
Not 100% sure yet how the DZ works with that though, it seems to behave a bit differently. I think the goal is the same though: you can't get better loot, but you get more of it than in normal PvE. And that's exactly how it should be since you obviously have the risk of losing it.
MythicReclaimer
Member
This makes no sense and sounds convoluted and completely unnecessary. So you have Normal, Hard, Challenging difficulties for each Tier (which is seemingly just the level of the NPCs)? WTH.
Normal, Hard, Challenging, and Heroic should be the Tiers of difficulty and just be done with it without introducing a bunch of other stuff on top of it.
Insane Metal
Member
Oh wow, this all sounds absolutely great
We will be able to play with different gear/sets again.
We will be able to play with different gear/sets again.
Oh wow, this all sounds absolutely great
We will be able to play with different gear/sets again.
Hopefully the buff the other sets and change some of the talents on the HE items.
Difficulty does NOT impact the quality of drops just the AMOUNT.
Heroic difficulty does NOT lock high quality gear in any way.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
It makes perfect sense.
You set your world level. So tier 4 is level 33 NPC's who drop the highest GS loot.
Then you play on normal for 1-2 drops, hard for 3-4 drops, and so on....
Yep, it's the right direction they are going. I have only two concerns now:
1) There is a chance that the game becomes too easy for people with optimized Gear
2) We could actually get too much loot. Especially if they additionally remove some RNG layers on equip, it's possible that you get "perfect" gear pretty fast. At least the people who play the game almost daily.
Hopefully they'll be able to make more gear useful, so there is enough to grind for
MythicReclaimer
Member
That sounds fine but what is the difference of Normal, Hard, and Challenging for the Tiers in regards to difficulty? Red Bar Enemies - Normal difficulty, Purple Bar Enemies- Hard Difficulty, and Yellow Bar Enemies (Elites) - Challenging Difficulty?
We don't know yet. Remember there will be a PTS where we will be able to see and hopefully influence all this