FranXico
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They're just analysing the patch. What do you think their job is? Tech support for Sony? PR?
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[DF] - The Division 2: Next-Gen Runs at 60FPS - Visual Analysis on PS5 - Series X|S
- Thread starter Tickle My Tendies
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Mr Moose
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Tickle My Tendies
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Insane Metal
Member
PS5 wins by 0.12FPS
bender
What time is it?
Pages and pages of warriors fighting about a cross-platform, next-generation backwards compatible patch from Ubisoft. I can't wait for the rap video analyzing the differences in the footage that DF presented. Teenage angst and a global pandemic are a winning combination.
DJ12
Member
Massively?
Missing fog on a BC game?
I think you need to console war less.
Only xbox fans truly care about BC face offs, got to pick up those W's somewhere.
ethomaz
Banned
They issue is... the "next-gen" BC patch makes the game looks worst than the BC game you were playing before the patch.Pages and pages of warriors fighting about a cross-platform, next-generation backwards compatible patch from Ubisoft. I can't wait for the rap video analyzing the differences in the footage that DF presented. Teenage angst and a global pandemic are a winning combination.
In any case it is indeed another big win for Series X.
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Endless Fluff
Banned
PS5 dips down to 1080p despite not running all effects? Oof.
bender
What time is it?
Ubisoft.
Concern
Member
Tickle My Tendies
Member
This isn't true, my guy. It works both ways. Both sides go crazy for "W's"
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
The title is actually "what's up with PS5 visuals?" but I changed it since the Hitman 3 analysis title wasn't popular.
Summary incoming:
- Game is running in BC mode, or as Tom calls it "BC+ mode"
- Notable downgrades to PS5 version compared to PS4 Pro, missing fog and other effects
- Series S targets 60fps/1080p (dynamic)
- Series X targets 60fps/4k, as high as native 4k, drops as low as 1800p
- PS5 reconstructs to 4k from a max resolution of 1890p, lowest res they counted was 1080p
- Series X takes lead with better BC enhancements
- Newer consoles have better texture pop-in
- Tom hopes the missing effects on PS5 is a bug that will be addressed, Alex surprised this patch even made it out the door in current state
- Black levels are crushed on PS5 version (around 8:20 mark)
- Reflections not working properly on PS5, flat out missing in some areas, Alex says it is definitely a bug that needs to be addressed
- PS5 holds 60 fps very well, Tom did notice one instance of screen tearing around the 12:15 mark that wasn't duplicated on Series X
- Series X holds 60 well but has more slight dips than PS5 probably due to higher settings
- PS5 version clearly not tapping into the increased I/O bandwidth
Sounds like a crappy patch. Hope it gets fixed
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Framerate stats from VG Tech, who also counted the same resolutions as DF does and notes the same missing effects on PS5 version.
Platforms PS5 Xbox Series X Xbox Series S Frame Amounts Game Frames 20510 20468 20492 Video Frames 20510 20510 20510 Frame Tearing Statistics Total Torn Frames 0 0 0 Lowest Torn Line - - - Frame Height 2160 2160 1080 Frame Time Statistics Mean Frame Time 16.67ms 16.7ms 16.68ms Median Frame Time 16.67ms 16.67ms 16.67ms Maximum Frame Time 16.67ms 33.33ms 33.33ms Minimum Frame Time 16.67ms 16.67ms 16.67ms 95th Percentile Frame Time 16.67ms 16.67ms 16.67ms 99th Percentile Frame Time 16.67ms 16.67ms 16.67ms Frame Rate Statistics Mean Frame Rate 60fps 59.88fps 59.95fps Median Frame Rate 60fps 60fps 60fps Maximum Frame Rate 60fps 60fps 60fps Minimum Frame Rate 60fps 50fps 57fps 5th Percentile Frame Rate 60fps 60fps 60fps 1st Percentile Frame Rate 60fps 57fps 59fps Frame Time Counts 16.67ms 20510 (100%) 20426 (99.79%) 20474 (99.91%) 33.33ms 0 (0%) 42 (0.21%) 18 (0.09%) Other Dropped Frames 0 0 0 Runt Frames 0 0 0 Runt Frame Thresholds 20 rows 20 rows 20 rows
The PS5 version patch sounds a bit shit :/.
Mr.ODST
Member
Dont think anyone is arsed about these tests, I only ever hear about it when its a Sony Fanbody banging on that they "won"
Good BC implementation by Xbox, PS5 patch will be fixed soon
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DJ12
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On BC games though? I think not squire.
Insane Metal
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FixedPages and pages of warriors fighting about a cross-platform, next-generation backwards compatible turd from Ubisoft. I can't wait for the rap video analyzing the differences in the footage that DF presented. Teenage angst and a global pandemic are a winning combination.
Silent Viper
Banned
SX takes this win i guess
VectorVictor
Member
And for Sony...ooofff, can’t handle The Division 2 at 4K and has to tur...
...no sorry I can’t. This is squarely on UbiSoft and their patented “Head Up Our Ass” development philosophy. The PS5 is capable of getting closer to the XSX performance than this.
pasterpl
Member
This is next gen patch test, not straight up bc comparison
bender
What time is it?
Calling a Ubisoft game a turd is redundant.
ethomaz
Banned
It is a PS4 Pro game running on PS5 via BC.
You don't have a native PS5 version.
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The Hamburglar
Banned
The difference is this is a patch for a last gen game in backwards compatibility.. which is what I and the poster I quoted were talking about.
Dirt5 was the first next generation comparison right? After the patch wasn’t the ps5 version still more stable fps?
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Trainsmove
Banned
Except lower native resolution, no Volume metric fog, and lower Quality reflections. Go PS5.
JackMcGunns
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phil_t98
#SonyToo
what did I do?
Umbasaborne
Banned
The tower of power’s got gaf in a tizzy
phil_t98
#SonyToo
yeah massively, reflections, res and fog not what it should be
Trainsmove
Banned
I am not worried about it at all, I said it before Time is playstation five's biggest enemy, The more powerful Hardware will eventually Earn its respect.
skit_data
Member
This is not a ”patch”, more akin to ”ripping off a band aid so hard that several layers of skin comes off with it”.
But it is BC in some regard, so i wouldnt call it a next gen version really.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DarkMage619
$MSFT
And 'Massive' developed the game. Looked like you were going for a pun.
DJ12
Member
Nope, it's a BC comparison.
It's a PS4 game, patched to use the PS5s' BC boost mode not a PS5 version of the game.
A next gen version does not exist yet.
Mr Moose
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bender
What time is it?
phil_t98
#SonyToo
unintentional lolMassively... developer name is Massive.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The patches are no different than the Pro/X patches last gen. It's a second round of them for the higher spec in the BC environment.
I wish they would drop the "next gen patch" talk, unless they literally recompiled the game to take advantage of the specs outside the BC environment, natively. It's misleading.
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alabtrosMyster
Banned
The PS5 version is better have a better framerate with all the missing effects.
Ubisoft said that they are aware of issues on PS5
forums.ubisoft.com
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
forums.ubisoft.com
someone will scream at "perfomance over stutters all the day long baby!! " wait for it !
basically it dosnt
martino
Member
best post of the thread so farUbisoft said that they are aware of issues on PS5
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
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Hawking Radiation
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Taking the high road huh?
Where was this response when looking at Control on XSX with it's stuttering issues? Should Sony fans not shot their shot? Regardless of the answer to that question, did it stop them from shooting it?
I wish people could just get a consensus on this across both fanbases because these type of threads are always fraught with biases and goal post shifting.
Tickle My Tendies
Member
Ubisoft said that they are aware of issues on PS5
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
This page has definitely closed. To find your favorite forums and threads, go to https://discussions.ubisoft.com.
I am adding it into the OP, thanks
Tickle My Tendies
Member
so basically either the team didn't playtest the PS5 version, or they did playtest and just shoved the update out unfinished and bugged on purpose.
I'm nor sure which would be worse
I have to think they just shipped out the patch knowing it was shit.
