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[wesleyshark]

Reckless was stealth patched fyi

 

[SumptuousLemur]

rerolling for the best AUG possible just wipes out any mats you hoarded, meanwhile hoarding for mats post patch is nuts :[

Yeah I wiped out my entire regular credit hoard re-calibrating 2 gear set items.

Also weapons that cost 940 PxC, PLSSSSS

 

[SumptuousLemur]

This thread is starting to feel like every Destiny thread ever (on any forum), pre Taken King... and post Take King. Let the hate flow through you.

It isn't just Destiny, go back to Diablo 3 OT1/2/3 here, Final Fantasy XIV and others.

 

[lt519]

Its been crazy seeing the change in attitude here and on the subreddit based on this patch.

They basically attempted to do a gear reset a month after launch, which would have been fine if the new gear was actually interesting. It's just numbers on top of numbers, there is nothing unique about grinding for a 204 Aug now versus grinding for the 182 Aug before. Even the gear set perks are just damage multipliers.

Then they went and jacked up all the prices because of the exploits. Before the patch it took me a week of playing to get around 200 credits and I could buy one or two blueprints a week and craft each one several times. Now they expect me to play for two weeks to get one blue print that I can craft twice a week for a chance at a slight improvement? I would have loved to log in every day, do the hard missions solo, run DZ for 30 minutes and call it a night. But that's no longer a viable option to make any progress because when the higher GS comes out next month with the new Incursion my two new pieces of a gear it took me four weeks to get is now irrelevant.

They catered to the exploiters and guys that can play 3-4 hours a day. Never a good idea.

 

[darkwing]

They basically attempted to do a gear reset a month after launch, which would have been fine if the new gear was actually interesting. It's just numbers on top of numbers, there is nothing unique about grinding for a 204 Aug now versus grinding for the 182 Aug before. Even the gear set perks are just damage multipliers.

Then they went and jacked up all the prices because of the exploits. Before the patch it took me a week of playing to get around 200 credits and I could buy one or two blueprints a week and craft each one several times. Now they expect me to play for two weeks to get one blue print that I can craft twice a week for a chance at a slight improvement? I would have loved to log in every day, do the hard missions solo, run DZ for 30 minutes and call it a night. But that's no longer a viable option to make any progress because when the higher GS comes out next month with the new Incursion my two new pieces of a gear it took me four weeks to get is now irrelevant.

They catered to the exploiters and guys that can play 3-4 hours a day. Never a good idea.

or maybe majority of their customers are players that can play 3-4 hours a day?

 

[Xion_Stellar]

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Whoa there calm down there I'm not singling you out or anything I'm just speaking in a general term and everyone is feel to react however they want but I just don't feel some of the more extreme reactions I seen ate completely warranted yet.

You do realize this is the exact opposite of what the devs communicated to us for this update?

I seen this WAYYYYY too many times and specially in the MMO space (damm you Yoshi-P) but basically message and ideas told by the dev team should be hopeful implementations at it's best because development intentions and what actually get implemented are two totally different things.

In the end though the blame does fall on Massive for not properly communicating what the game initially was and what to expect out of the future content but as for now thanks to the way the game is built right now I foresee more flagpole moving and I'm OK with that and I understand if that's not everyone's cup of tea.

They screwed up the initial game economy and they are trying to fix it.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

or maybe majority of their customers are players that can play 3-4 hours a day?

No way, 37% of players reached level 30 (more people shut a car door than leave Brooklyn and get to Manhattan).

A level 30 player doesn't mean a good gear score either, so of that 37% you're looking at maybe 8% or less that are gear score 180+ and play a lot each day.

Not even close.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

Whoa there calm down there I'm not singling you out or anything I'm just speaking in a general term and everyone is feel to react however they want but I just don't feel some of the more extreme reactions I seen ate completely warranted yet.


I seen this WAYYYYY too many times and specially in the MMO space (damm you Yoshi-P) but basically message and ideas told by the dev team should be hopeful implementations at it's best because development intentions and what actually get implemented are two totally different things.

In the end though the blame does fall on Massive for not properly communicating what the game initially was and what to expect out of the future content but as for now thanks to the way the game is built right now I foresee more flagpole moving and I'm OK with that and I understand if that's not everyone's cup of tea.

They screwed up the initial game economy and they are trying to fix it.

They do a stream every maintenance period on Tuesday mornings and had 2 streams specific to this update and the Incursion.

If they can't properly communicate via communication plans they streamed then that is just sad.

I called it and I am going to find it, this is a blanket reset in disguise.

 

[ChrisW]

Hope this forum and the subreddit doesn't turn into just a constant bashing of the game. I love coming on here and reading peoples stories from their DZ experiences and some of the stuff they have crafted etc. Plus the daft videos

 

[SumptuousLemur]

Hope this forum and the subreddit doesn't turn into just a constant bashing of the game. I love coming on here and reading peoples stories from their DZ experiences and some of the stuff they have crafted etc. Plus the daft videos

Eh that's what happens when a patch hits. If its good then its sunshine and rainbows, its its bad then its shit and mud.

 

[wesleyshark]

Hope this forum and the subreddit doesn't turn into just a constant bashing of the game. I love coming on here and reading peoples stories from their DZ experiences and some of the stuff they have crafted etc. Plus the daft videos

The sad thing is what they did to the game yesterday has put up roadblocks and hurdles for all of us to be able to have those types of experiences and showing off cool shit we crafted or found.

The game just isn't fun anymore outside of griefing people, but that's only fun for assholes like myself lol.

 

[chogidogs]

Rolled an M1A with coolheaded, deadly and ferocious. Should I keep it? I like the talents but I keep reading that balanced is a must for it. Is balanced really worth it?

 

[draughn101]

Anyone for the incursion on Xbox 1. GT Draughn

 

[Paertan]

Rolled an M1A with coolheaded, deadly and ferocious. Should I keep it? I like the talents but I keep reading that balanced is a must for it. Is balanced really worth it?

You could at least try it out since you got it. Coolheaded is very nice.

 

[telasoman]

I had no issues with the difficulty of the incursion on hard mode. We did it 3 times after the hotfix last night. Its chaos, but I like it.

I got pretty lucky with drops last night too.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

I had no issues with the difficulty of the incursion on hard mode. We did it 3 times after the hotfix last night. Its chaos, but I like it.

I got pretty lucky with drops last night too.

On the 2nd and 3rd runs you just got the drops from the APC right?

 

[chogidogs]

You could at least try it out since you got it. Coolheaded is very nice.

I was thinking that also. This gun kinda forced me to be a skill guy just to unlock it haha

 

[telasoman]

On the 2nd and 3rd runs you just got the drops from the APC right?

The second time, we had a new person who hadn't done it at all yet, and we made him party leader, and I got 2 drops.

The third time he got on an alt and was host, and I only got a drop off the APC.

 

[Granadier]

RE: crafting changes

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
182GS = 8 HE mats = 40 blue mats
	4 HE's or 20 purples

[B]NOW:[/B]
182GS(weapon) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples
204GS(weapon) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples

182GS(gear) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples
214GS(gear) = 30 HE mats = 450 blue mats
	30 HE's or 225 purples

------------------------------------------------------------

[B]CRAFTING TOP GEAR [/B]
(6 gear slots + 2 weapon slots) *ignoring sidearm and crafting once each

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
6, 182GS gear 		= 48 HE mats = 240 blue mats
	24 HE's or 120 purples
2, 182GS weapons 	= 16 HE mats = 80 blue mats
	8 HE's or 40 purples

CURRENT:
6, 214GS gear 		= 180 HE mats = 2700 blue mats
	180 HE's or 1350 purples
2, 204GS weapons	= 20 HE mats = 300 blue mats
	20 HE's or 150 purples

------------------------------------------------------------

[B]FARMING:[/B]
(DZ01 & DZ02 route as control. Ideal situations where all bosses and chests available each time. 7 named, 8 DZ chests)

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
30 purples = 60 blue mats = 12 HE mats
	6 runs (42 named + 48 chests)

[B]AFTER:[/B]
23 HE's = 23 HE mats
	9 runs (63 named + 72 chests)

TLDR: crafting current tier equipment has increased by 50% across the board post-1.1

 

[fuzzyset]

DZ route running question. Is there a reliable way to to reset what instance you're in? My general strategy is to hit the subway from the SW DZ entrance for the named boss there, but obviously he's not always there. Also, I seem to never find chests that I can open (guess they're looted?).

I def don't usually get 7 named bosses and 8 chest when I run through DZ01-02. :-/ I need help!

 

[Xion_Stellar]

They do a stream every maintenance period on Tuesday mornings and had 2 streams specific to this update and the Incursion.

If they can't properly communicate via communication plans they streamed then that is just sad.

I called it and I am going to find it, this is a blanket reset in disguise.

I completelt agree with this sentiment because that's what I was expecting and that's exactly what we got

The signs were all over the place the moment the nerfed the Phoenix Credits drops while alot of the end game designs didn't agree with that change (such as using Phoenix Credits at the recalibration) so maybe they hopefully do some interesting things with the actual first Expansion because I'm not expecting much out of the upcoming 1.2 update next month.

 

[theWB27]

Bought the m44...rolled balanced, brutal and deadly. Scope adds 19.5 head shot damage. 83 extended mag with 33% crit hit damage.

All talents unlocked.
I like it.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

The second time, we had a new person who hadn't done it at all yet, and we made him party leader, and I got 2 drops.

The third time he got on an alt and was host, and I only got a drop off the APC.

Thanks for the details. I've only run it on Hard once and want to again tonight, so I will make sure my friend who hasn't complete it is the leader.

If this glitch persists it seems alts aren't necessary.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

The Divison's Big Incursion Update Has Got off to a Rough Start - Eurogamer

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...incursion-update-has-got-off-to-a-rough-start

So far this is the only media article I can find in regards to the patch. I mean actual impressions versus the usual posting of bugs, such as the wiped Xbox One/PC characters.

 

[wesleyshark]

RE: crafting changes

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
182GS = 8 HE mats = 40 blue mats
	4 HE's or 20 purples

[B]NOW:[/B]
182GS(weapon) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples
204GS(weapon) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples

182GS(gear) = 10 HE mats = 150 blue mats
	10 HE's or 75 purples
214GS(gear) = 30 HE mats = 450 blue mats
	30 HE's or 225 purples

------------------------------------------------------------

[B]CRAFTING TOP GEAR [/B]
(6 gear slots + 2 weapon slots) *ignoring sidearm and crafting once each

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
6, 182GS gear 		= 48 HE mats = 240 blue mats
	24 HE's or 120 purples
2, 182GS weapons 	= 16 HE mats = 80 blue mats
	8 HE's or 40 purples

CURRENT:
6, 214GS gear 		= 180 HE mats = 2700 blue mats
	180 HE's or 1350 purples
2, 204GS weapons	= 20 HE mats = 300 blue mats
	20 HE's or 150 purples

------------------------------------------------------------

[B]FARMING:[/B]
(DZ01 & DZ02 route as control. Ideal situations where all bosses and chests available each time. 7 named, 8 DZ chests)

[B]BEFORE:[/B]
30 purples = 60 blue mats = 12 HE mats
	6 runs (42 named + 48 chests)

[B]AFTER:[/B]
23 HE's = 23 HE mats
	9 runs (63 named + 72 chests)

TLDR: crafting current tier equipment has increased by 50% across the board post-1.1

It almost reads like a good April Fools Joke. But it's not.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

Anyone fancy trying the incursion on PS4? PSN ID is bobs_99

 

[Darknyss09]

Ubi posted an update regarding the missing character issue.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1432215-An-update-on-the-Missing-Characters-issue

Were some people able to log in after the 1.1 update and got locked out later? If so, prepare for a roll-back.

 

[fuzzyset]

Also, not to jump on the negativity train, but is there non-gear set 220+ gear? The CM Incursion gives you 240 gear, but its always a gear set item I think. The next Incursion requires 220+, so are they funneling everyone into gear sets?

 

[Granadier]

There are no high end items that are above 204 gear score. That is what ilvl 32 HE's are at.
So yes, in order to make the next incursion you will need at least some set pieces equipped.
source

This means that the highest gear score attainable right now is 228.

 

[Sober]

Why did they adopt the stat roll system of D3 if they don't plan on adopting D3's loot system as well?

If there were maybe only 10 weapon talents and each of them about as useful as deadly/brutal, then the low amounts of HE drops you get would make sense.

Even when the CM boss dropped 4 HEs, 99% of the time they were unusable either because they didn't roll the stats you wanted, or had very low rolls on said stats.

Nothing has changed.

The most reliable way to roll for a ilvl32 item is via crafting (DZ blueprints) which now require 4 HE Div Techs each, which you get 1 per day if you don't go box looting in the DZ...OR you pray it drops from the named boss at Supply Drops.

The only thing that has lived up to the "get the best loots from drops" part is Incursions, only because they restricted certain set gear pieces to only drop from there. Even then its still battling with RNG upon more layers of RNG (set type, stat types rolled, stat amount rolled).

Yeah, the problem is that the game still wants both Diablo style loot rolls and MMO style progression. You need to sacrifice one or the other. Gearscore itself is a horrible idea, because you're saying that a ilvl 31 highend that rolled low on all its stats is the same as a ilvl31 highend that rolled high on all its stats and has the talents you want. The power levels are way too drastic there. It's basically the new accuracy inflating your paper doll DPS. It means jack shit especially because your shooting is still entirely skill based. It seems like a really silly way to have to help people who aren't familiar with RPGs by giving them a stupid system to judge their gear instead of thinking about what they're replacing in their slots. Higher gear score really does not mean better performance if the gear you're slotting in is utter shit and you're only doing it cause the number at the top gets bigger.

And I find it absolutely hilarious that an SMG/M1A are the highest quality blueprints you could find. Is Massive not even going to try to take that meta down or are they simply happy that everyone is running at least a HE Vector? I was hoping this game would not math out as hard to what kind of gun you'd have to use, but it's still like that. I really want to use the other weapon types but you'd be foolish not to do the SMG/M1A combo.

I would rather that all high-end gear just have fixed stats, names, talents, etc. Basically expand the uniques and make all high end unique. Handcrafted items with specific stats allocated with every point spent. Every Pakhan or Tenebrae or Damascus or this particular set of HE stamina gloves that drop from a DZ named boss should always be the same for every player. "here, we are just an MMO now. All the gear you want is spread around these named bosses in PvE/DZ or crafted/bought. Go farm them until you get it. Optimizing your gear is now a puzzle game, not a slot machine."

If Massive instead wants us to play the TPS cover shooter version of Diablo 3 maybe they should start by themselves playing Diablo 3 ROS and understanding what makes that loot grind so good.

 

[VE3TRO]

I want to try Incursion but feel its not really worth doing. I'm 190 at the moment on gear score with all my high-ends and some purchased Striker gear.

 

[KDR_11k]

Heh, I'm equipped with all HEs and swapping out my Damascus for a shitty grey revolver that dropped off a civvie lowered my gear score to 150 so I can go into the lower DZ...

 

[SumptuousLemur]

Heh, I'm equipped with all HEs and swapping out my Damascus for a shitty grey revolver that dropped off a civvie lowered my gear score to 150 so I can go into the lower DZ...

You monster!

 

[darkistheway]

I'm sitting at 100k DPS, 65k HP and 10k Skill.

I haven't done any exploits so I don't have tons of cash or materials.

Every High End I get is not as good as my superior gear.

The few times I have crafted something the base stats are not as good and the talents not worth keeping. I can't really keep crafting because I don't have the materials to re-roll.

My only option is running the missions and hoping for good drops. I will slowly accumulate better gear (through drops and occasional crafting attempts).

The Dark Zone vendors do offer substantial upgrades to my gear but I have to grind DZ ranks (I only hit 30 on Monday) to get them.

So I wonder: am I the player Massive wants?

Because the rate of progression feels too slow.

just my two cents...

 

[DomsPlaying]

DZ route running question. Is there a reliable way to to reset what instance you're in? My general strategy is to hit the subway from the SW DZ entrance for the named boss there, but obviously he's not always there. Also, I seem to never find chests that I can open (guess they're looted?).

I def don't usually get 7 named bosses and 8 chest when I run through DZ01-02. :-/ I need help!

I think the only ways would be to get invited to a friend's instance which requires DZ transfer, invite friends so that your server might fill up and cause a transfer or leave DZ then log out completely from the game and log back in..

Last option has sometimes not worked in the past. We went against a group of Manhunts not taking damage the other day, tried this and it kept the same server.

 

[>-Baron-Spamedi-<]

Well played a couple of hours yesterday and a couple of hours today.
So far, I've really enjoyed it. Not done the Incursion yet as I'm waiting for some people on my friends list to be available.

I had a great laugh in The DZ solo the other day. Found a set of Gloves of the Nomad at a supply drop (it was pandemonium lol) only to get it taken by a rogue. Then I respawned, went back and killed a boss in the same area only to get another pair of the gloves. Went To DZ 4 killed all the dudes in the contaminated area, opened the chests and extracted from the roof of the nearby Evac zone.
Great fun.

I don't have an issue with some people not liking the changes or the patch or the game itself. Diff'rent Strokes and all.
I think some folk seem to go on a mission to convert people into their negativity, and that's what people are reacting to.

 

[spyder_ur]

Heh, I'm equipped with all HEs and swapping out my Damascus for a shitty grey revolver that dropped off a civvie lowered my gear score to 150 so I can go into the lower DZ...

I'm pretty sure it looks at your inventory. Unless they didn't follow through on that. But nice try.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

5th crash since the patch.

Almost at the end of the daily, someone joined me and it crashed my game

 

[EL CUCO]

Ubi posted an update regarding the missing character issue.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1432215-An-update-on-the-Missing-Characters-issue

Were some people able to log in after the 1.1 update and got locked out later? If so, prepare for a roll-back.

copy pasta since people might be too busy complaining to actually click the link.

Agents,

Some of you reported that their characters went missing after Update 1.1. Our team has identified and fixed the source of this issue to ensure that your characters could be correctly restored.

The issue was caused by a malfunctioning server that couldn’t synchronize character data correctly and corrupted them instead. The game client was unable to read this corrupted data, and simply assumed that the character didn’t exist. Once this has been identified, we were able to restore the server to its normal functions, thus ensuring that the issue will no longer occur for other players.

For those who experienced the issue: your character is not gone. We are currently working on a fix that should make it available shortly. Implementing this fix will require a server downtime, and we will let you know when we are ready to perform it.
Please note however that in order to make your character available, we will need to restore the latest uncorrupted save of your entire account, which happened during the server maintenance of April 12. In other words, your character will be back just as you left it on April 12 at 9am CEST | 3am EDT | 12am PDT. You will lose any progress made on this character or any other one from the same account between April 12 and the next maintenance.

We apologize for the inconvenience and want to thank you for your understanding and your help in identifying this issue.

The Division Team

 

[draughn101]

I want to try Incursion but feel its not really worth doing. I'm 190 at the moment on gear score with all my high-ends and some purchased Striker gear.

I'm playing with randoms and getting wrecked. Wave 3 so far

 

[Sober]

I'm pretty sure it looks at your inventory. Unless they didn't follow through on that. But nice try.

Apparently you can just bank it in your stash. Problem solved.

 

[DomsPlaying]

I want to try Incursion but feel its not really worth doing. I'm 190 at the moment on gear score with all my high-ends and some purchased Striker gear.

We can beat it bro. I got to Wave 12 with rando's and IGN. I know it was pre-fix but still, 190 is way above what people are using to beat it. We have to at least try legit! If we get frustrated then we will just b-word hunt in DZ.

I'm at some doc appt today until a few hours but after that I'm all in.

 

[robertlebrone]

The sad thing is what they did to the game yesterday has put up roadblocks and hurdles for all of us to be able to have those types of experiences and showing off cool shit we crafted or found.

The game just isn't fun anymore outside of griefing people, but that's only fun for assholes like myself lol.

I've decided I'm done with the game, but sometime this evening I'm going into the DZ and killing (or attempting to kill) every single person I see. I don't care if they are in a group of 8. I don't care if they have a 200 GS. I don't care if they don't have any gear. I'm shooting everyone.

 

[wesleyshark]

I'm pretty sure it looks at your inventory. Unless they didn't follow through on that. But nice try.

Nicer try. You can equip low gs stuff. Just put your high gs stuff in your stash. The game doesn't gear check beyond your backpack. &#128513;

 

[fuzzyset]

Nicer try. You can equip low gs stuff. Just put your high gs stuff in your stash. The game doesn't gear check beyond your backpack. &#128513;

Which is honestly fine. Not like you can equip it in the DZ. The dumber thing is that pistol counts since 99% of the time no one actually uses it.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Nicer try. You can equip low gs stuff. Just put your high gs stuff in your stash. The game doesn't gear check beyond your backpack. &#128513;

This is exactly what I said a week ago, how there was nothing to stop higher GS players from going into a lower bracket by equipping lower GS gear and swapping it out later.

 

[Xion_Stellar]

copy pasta since people might be too busy complaining to actually click the link.

So basically what everyone expected it would happen (load a restore point) but at least the roll back isn't too bad but it still sucks for those affected by it.

This is exactly what I said a week ago, how there was nothing to stop higher GS players from going into a lower bracket by equipping lower GS gear and swapping it out later.

I said the same thing but I'm not bothered by it since I'm perfectly fine sitting in the 160+ bracket.

 

[wesleyshark]

I've decided I'm done with the game, but sometime this evening I'm going into the DZ and killing (or attempting to kill) every single person I see. I don't care if they are in a group of 8. I don't care if they have a 200 GS. I don't care if they don't have any gear. I'm shooting everyone.

Destiny can wait.

There's going to be blood in the <160 bracket tonight.

 

[SumptuousLemur]

Well played a couple of hours yesterday and a couple of hours today.
So far, I've really enjoyed it. Not done the Incursion yet as I'm waiting for some people on my friends list to be available.

I had a great laugh in The DZ solo the other day. Found a set of Gloves of the Nomad at a supply drop (it was pandemonium lol) only to get it taken by a rogue. Then I respawned, went back and killed a boss in the same area only to get another pair of the gloves. Went To DZ 4 killed all the dudes in the contaminated area, opened the chests and extracted from the roof of the nearby Evac zone.
Great fun.

I don't have an issue with some people not liking the changes or the patch or the game itself. Diff'rent Strokes and all.
I think some folk seem to go on a mission to convert people into their negativity, and that's what people are reacting to.

Not sure how anyone can be fine with the 50% blanket increase in crafting requirements...

 

[Paertan]

Any PC Agents wanna do Incursion? I managed to get to wave 15 yesterday and have better gear today and want to try again.

Another weekly reward for you who have already done it since I haven't =)