MythicReclaimer
Member
I feel rather squishy with armor at 65% and Health at 55K-75K (Doesn't seem to matter). The purple 32s in the Incursion seem different for purple enemies as far as damage output.
Maybe it's just me.
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I feel rather squishy with armor at 65% and Health at 55K-75K (Doesn't seem to matter). The purple 32s in the Incursion seem different for purple enemies as far as damage output.
Maybe it's just me.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't design this properly. No way is a new player (or even me at 140 GS) going to compete with a matched set of 160 gear with all the right talents and stats on it. Especially considering you can just drop your sidearm to lower your score even further. Gear score is the wrong metric to use for this, or is at least far too simple.
Once again, the DZ doesn't really sound the least bit fun now that I've hit level 30 with purple gear (2 HE so far only at 140 gear score, but my gear is not great). I was optimistic that it would be a bit more balanced with the latest patch but that's clearly not the case.
It's different based on ROF? I thought the shotgun proc rate was just because each slug per shot is considered a single bullet, but each is still just 50%.
MythicReclaimer
Member
I'm not sure anyone (including Massive) can explain what they were going for with the addition of a Gear Score.
The idea that a single equipped piece of Gear Set armor is rated 214 is a complete joke considering most High-end gear items of the same slot will be much more useful even though the Gear Score will be much lower.
Gear Set armor should start at a very low Gear Score and go up as you add pieces to unlock perks.
MythicReclaimer
Member
Nope
Jorav
Member
So blue division tech is useless then?
HoodWinked
Member
just convert it when a craftng assignment is asking for it. like upgrade electronics materials just convert it and it will count.
EL CUCO
Member
You can use Blue DT to convert into regular HE. Green DT converts into regular Blues.
MythicReclaimer
Member
You can use it for crafting High-end Fabric, Electronics, Tools, or Weapon Parts. In the crafting section you will see these listed as Fabric (Dark Zone) etc. That just means you need to use Division Tech. You can also use green Division Tech to craft blue crafting mats.
TheLetdown
Member
I thought this patch was supposed to make DZ05 / DZ06 desirable.
With what is either a stealth buff to NPC damage or a stealth nerf to player mitigation and the fact that the same GS tier drops up there as it does down in the bowels, it basically cemented the DZ 02 - 04 shuffle.
DZ01 is still a playground for rogue groups.
With what is either a stealth buff to NPC damage or a stealth nerf to player mitigation and the fact that the same GS tier drops up there as it does down in the bowels, it basically cemented the DZ 02 - 04 shuffle.
DZ01 is still a playground for rogue groups.
wesleyshark
Banned
Street sharks vs nurse sharks
DomsPlaying
Member
Two man Incursion obvi.
I want to believe but The Division has been one of the most glitchy, buggy experiences I've had with a AAA console game this generation. Crashes, falling through the map, instances where the front door of a mission refuses to unlock ... these aren't subtle bugs. How do these patches pass certification?
I'm sure someone will refresh my memory with a worse game, but, wow, this is bad.
I never played THPS 5
So spent an hour and a half wth 4 ransoms doing the incursion, first try we got to wave 10, second try we get toasted by shotty on wave 3 and then FINALLY we get to wave 15 and everything starts coming down on you and two of us died and then the last two people couldn't hold out.
It was so upsetting to know we got to the last wave working well as a team
It was so upsetting to know we got to the last wave working well as a team
From what we discovered last night, wave 15 will not end until you plant the bomb. We were on it for 20 minutes the first time until we figured that out.
Get the bomb on wave 15, and just rush the ACP and plant and run away. The entire place will auto die and you win after like 30 seconds after its planted.
I am dying to know what the game was like before it was pushed back.
I made a new character and pushed her level 1 pistol over to my main. I stalked a solo character who was probably also lower geared as he was on manhunt and crushed him from behind since he didn't expect someone on equal footing.
Level 1 pistol forever. And add Massive to the list with Bungie of "I want a Tell All book of Incompetence",
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Final wave is overwhelming, best strat is to kill the elite with the explosives asap, use defensive link and plant the bomb, then hide. All the enemies will despawn once the APC is down.
MythicReclaimer
Member
It is if they contain gold.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Enjoy your green and blue DT's.
None, unless you're using that one talent (repo reaper I think) that gives your primary 30 ammo if you get a kill with the sidearm.
draughn101
Member
My DPS varies wildly depending on which positon it's in. Sometimes I'm at 190k with my M4 as primary and sometimes it's there at secondary. I think it's broken unless I'm missing something
Glad to see the oversight of GS calculation that allows scumbags to artificially drop their numbers to farm, yes, farm players. They even refer to it as such. I'm just going to hang out in the higher bracket as ironically I think there's less scumbags up there because they have to play on more equal footing outside of using superior tactics of having number advantage and shooting people who are in combat with AI.
I'm going to have to go Punisher route again soon I think, see a player extract, hang out of sight, when the leet-skilled players show up to farm the solo guy, I'll pick them off then. Farm the dirt farmers.
I'm going to have to go Punisher route again soon I think, see a player extract, hang out of sight, when the leet-skilled players show up to farm the solo guy, I'll pick them off then. Farm the dirt farmers.
DomsPlaying
Member
Who's on for X1 DZ action?
Wolfe
Member
I found that talent super useful while doing the story missions while leveling up, so nice to finish a few dudes off with the pistol and reclaim a few clips for my AK.
Dropped it pretty quick after 30 though.
wesleyshark
Banned
So far I've only gotten one 182 gold drop in the dz. And it was in the <160 bracket lol
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Is the best HE that hard mode named boss s drop 163 gear/weapons?
Oh crap I'm in the 161 + bracket, im going to get destroyed. I did not mean to put on that extra kneebrace. I juat wanted to see my stats with mods on it...this going to suck.
Im on 158...this is BS. I do not want to be on 161+ until i get my vector gun. Well thw good news is that i am only 6 credits away from buying that vector blueprint.
Im on 158...this is BS. I do not want to be on 161+ until i get my vector gun. Well thw good news is that i am only 6 credits away from buying that vector blueprint.
I'm gonna ask this question at the risk of being the Bambi, but I don't care.
Ve3TRO and Co. The "Bambi hunters." As we all kind of watch the thread evolve, there are posts like the one above. Now, Ve3TRO was kind enough to raid and Trials and whatever else with my kid in Destiny. Are you guys playing up the anti hero image here in thread? Obviously we've seen Wes' videos of him gunning down everyone in sight. Sad.
But having always put GAF out there as this fantastic place with super helpful people and fine fun folks to play with, part of me refuses to believe that helpful people are out there just being merciless and being proud of it in the thread.
Tell me you guys are just playing it up and it's not as mean spirited as it comes across. Under the GAF symbol it says "Believe"and I'm trying.
Goes back to Bambi cave, hiding from crazed snipers...
wesleyshark
Banned
I'm gonna ask this question at the risk of being the Bambi, but I don't care.
Ve3TRO and Co. The "Bambi hunters." As we all kind of watch the thread evolve, there are posts like the one above. Now, Ve3TRO was kind enough to raid and Trials and whatever else with my kid in Destiny. Are you guys playing up the anti hero image here in thread? Obviously we've seen Wes' videos of him gunning down everyone in sight. Sad.
But having always put GAF out there as this fantastic place with super helpful people and fine fun folks to play with, part of me refuses to believe that helpful people are out there just being merciless and being proud of it in the thread.
Tell me you guys are just playing it up and it's not as mean spirited as it comes across. Under the GAF symbol it says "Believe"and I'm trying.
Goes back to Bambi cave, hiding from crazed snipers...
Nah we're just in it having fun and playing up the antihero. In party chat we're all just carrying on and taking advantage of what massive created to be a ruthless pvp/pve zone. I've never played a game like this before, where all bets are off, and I've always been interested in DayZ and the like- just haven't had a pc for gaming in almost ten years now.
In destiny I'm always down to help and Sherpa and raid with randoms. I think it's a blast, to be able to take what you've learned and offer that to help other people.
But the dark zone?
Entirely different ballgame.
The game is outright unplayable for me now.
I can MM to the darkzone, and everything is fine.
I try to do the same for the dailies, and it's like i've turned into spectator mode!
I'm not seen by the NPCs, i can stand in their line of fire with no damage at all, i can empty the clip into a NPC from 1 meter and no damage or any reaction.
i can't deploy a skill, my grenades doesn't explode.
This happened for the second night today, since the 1.1 patch.
Does anyone have any idea what is happening ? is this a known issue ?
I can MM to the darkzone, and everything is fine.
I try to do the same for the dailies, and it's like i've turned into spectator mode!
I'm not seen by the NPCs, i can stand in their line of fire with no damage at all, i can empty the clip into a NPC from 1 meter and no damage or any reaction.
i can't deploy a skill, my grenades doesn't explode.
This happened for the second night today, since the 1.1 patch.
Does anyone have any idea what is happening ? is this a known issue ?
Did some testing today thanks to Tawp and Wes.
Reckless talent is still bugged.
w/o Reckless => 10707 damage body
w/ Reckless => 9707 damage body.
This is visible in the UI under "Survivability" where it says All Damage Mitigation. The numbers were just verifying that it wasn't only a UI glitch.
If you have a chest piece with Reckless I would highly recommend using it over a little extra health or armor.
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Armor mitigation is still working fine, and it's not the cause of the DZ enemies seemingly hitting harder. Not sure if it was the placebo effect of the Rehab glitch, or if they upped the strength of them in the patch.
3888 armor (54.47% mitigation) => 1804 body, 3058 head
1308 armor (18.32% mitigation) => 3237 body, 5487 head
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I wish the enemies damage was visible so we could test the 0-160 bracket against the 160+ bracket to see if there is any difference in enemy difficulty.
Thought I'm assuming that a 32 is a 32 regardless of where they are at.
Reckless talent is still bugged.
w/o Reckless => 10707 damage body
w/ Reckless => 9707 damage body.
This is visible in the UI under "Survivability" where it says All Damage Mitigation. The numbers were just verifying that it wasn't only a UI glitch.
If you have a chest piece with Reckless I would highly recommend using it over a little extra health or armor.
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Armor mitigation is still working fine, and it's not the cause of the DZ enemies seemingly hitting harder. Not sure if it was the placebo effect of the Rehab glitch, or if they upped the strength of them in the patch.
3888 armor (54.47% mitigation) => 1804 body, 3058 head
1308 armor (18.32% mitigation) => 3237 body, 5487 head
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I wish the enemies damage was visible so we could test the 0-160 bracket against the 160+ bracket to see if there is any difference in enemy difficulty.
Thought I'm assuming that a 32 is a 32 regardless of where they are at.
Insane Metal
Member
My DPS is floating like crazy. I enter the sidearm menu, it goes up to 155k. I go to the Primary Weapon menu, it goes down to 146k. WTF? And no the weapons aren't different levels... they're all 182. Fuck this shit.
Edit: also, I bought the MP5 BP because everyone says it's the best weapon, crafted two and both had horrible talents and even with all the best mods I have, the DPS doesn't even go to 140k. I'll just keep my long time Vector going.
Edit: also, I bought the MP5 BP because everyone says it's the best weapon, crafted two and both had horrible talents and even with all the best mods I have, the DPS doesn't even go to 140k. I'll just keep my long time Vector going.
Dat stealth edit doe
Cool Wes. Just asking. I've enjoyed the DZ more treating it like co-op but knowing the hectic nature of it - it's probably the most fun experience I've had outside of a raid in Destiny!
EL CUCO
Member
You're still going to get rekt :]
When we're not hunting bambis we're doing science
wesleyshark
Banned
Caught it just before it dipped below the water's surfaceDat stealth edit doe
Cool Wes. Just asking. I've enjoyed the DZ more treating it like co-op but knowing the hectic nature of it - it's probably the most fun experience I've had outside of a raid in Destiny!
I'd have to say that Vault of Glass and King's Fall are two of my most favorite gaming experiences, out of all the games I've played that involve co-op of some sort. Especially VoG. Bungie did a lot of things wrong in Year One but they absolutely nailed VoG.
The dz is an entirely different beast. While yes, it can be treated as a co-op experience, and yes, you definitely will fare better with a friend or three, it's still very much a pvp free for all zone, where there are no rules by design.
It's what you make of it, but it's also what others make of it for themselves, which can either bypass or gravely affect you.
EL CUCO
Member
I would love to test my all 163 with one glove 182 vs your all 182. Gear plus one 163. I have huge armor pen + crit build working that mow down every person build ive fought at the 160 area.
Another one? What happened Deku?