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Tom Clancy's The Division |OT2| The Wolves of Wall Street
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yup, i used to post a lot in there. but i soured on that game and i can't bear to talk about it anymore.
Yea. It's a communication app setup with mostly gaming in mind. You can setup a server and can setup multiple lobbies for chat discussions. It also has voice communication. It's a fun app and the phone app works well as well. I had my buddies I used to play an older mmo with switch off facebook chat and we setup a discord. They still play some pc games, so they use it for voice chat as well.
shawnoftheshred
Member
I'm a level 30. Have 50 purple weapons/mods etc. between my inventory and stash that I'm not using. Knowing that I'm mostly just hoping to get better weapons, is there consensus on better approach? Sell vs. deconstruct?
I'll say it again, (probably not the last time), but instead of looking at the DZ and making suggestions of how to make it more carebear or PvE friendly you should be crying to revisions to the 2/3's of the map that is basically worthless once all encounters/sidemissions/collectibles are done.
That's the PvE area. You should cry for improvements there.
That's the PvE area. You should cry for improvements there.
deconstruct, you get mad money from doing everything else. i have $200k now that i dunno what to do with.
wesleyshark
Banned
Deconstruct, deconstruct, deconstruct.
I'm sitting on $1.3mil reg funds and $1mil dz funds and I deconstruct everything I extract in the dz or loot from CMs.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
Just some knee pads which pushed crit dmg up 27.5% and the minors were all 25% resistance to shock, blind and burn. So pretty handy. Now I gotta farm for some high-end DT to craft this 31 chest piece.
it's already boring now so i have to agree. they need to pump up PVE areas with more activities.
WavyStretch
Neo Member
Yep. Events.
DomsPlaying
Member
This is a damn good point.
Now that I've completed all main and side missions/encounters and collectibles, the only reason I go to that part of the map is daily missions and fast travel back to home base. It'd be nice to have a reason to explore the majority of the map outside the DZ, but the incentive isn't there at present.
I think the eventual "Underground" DLC portion will accomplish giving us a reason to venture back outside the DZ during end-game but that's paid of course and not until June right?
TheLetdown
Member
I recall people saying the kneepads blueprint was causing issues similar to the backpack one.
Is that still the case?
Is that still the case?
Olengie
Member
Yes. The PvE area is dead to me besides the farmable materials.
Did a cursory search on this. So what are incursions supposed to be exactly?
wesleyshark
Banned
"raid"-esque ops supposedly. We really have gotten zero info so far.
No one knows. We will know more tomorrow.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
The DZ is an amazing part of the game and an exhilarating experience that has very few games that can compare.
However, I just don't understand how matching Level 30s with blues with Level 30s with all HE gear and mods slots being balanced in anyway. Matching people based on skill would help, and leaving the range open enough to allow some one sided fights to keep things tense for all players in that bracket. Like I've said, most fights aren't really satisfying when you steamroll over people. Finding an equipped group and stacking skills against them and them against you keeps the fight going for a few minutes and makes it more tense.
Setting ambushes to landmarks that just came up and guessing where the sheep are herding to is so much fun. Eyeing up the other players knowing they can open fire at anytime is so awesome, chest beating all the time haha
But to think the DZ doesn't require any changes is really silly.
wesleyshark
Banned
You enjoy herding sheep but find it unfair that people can attack players who are fresh 30s. How does that not contradict?
The dz is designed to be unfair. It's better that way.
In theory that sounds good, but in practice it doesn't work IMHO. It sounds like SBMM and that makes it impossible for friends of different skill levels to play together and have fun. The DZ is a balancing nightmare, so I say just let it be a lawless free for all. Just get rid of the glitches and the bugs.
Flying Toaster
Member
The DZ does not require changes. PVE deserves improvements. Do not make the DZ anything less than it already is.
I think people are mad they are locked out of the lvl 50 vendor stashes in the DZ and the HE items that drop. CMs drop plenty of HE items and bosses can drop great weapons, so if you like pve you have ways of obtaining great items to use in the incursions that will be released. You can't expect to obtain every item in the game unless you play all of the content in the game.
Yeah, I hope they make some changes before then. Maybe the April update will include some fresh content outside of Incursions.
This is true. I agree with them having certain gear blueprints in the DZ because it makes them more valuable. There is more risk involved with getting those blueprints, and therefore having them feels more rewarding.
If you get spawn trapped at a checkpoint and somehow still have your high value items that you want to extract before leaving ( I don't even understand how this scenario works as you drop your items upon death but whatever) the game has a solution for you.
Open your map, switch to the matchmaking tab and matchmake for the DZ. Yes this can be done from inside the checkpoints. Now you have switched servers. If you then still get spawn killed by a different group. Aye tough luck homie.
Open your map, switch to the matchmaking tab and matchmake for the DZ. Yes this can be done from inside the checkpoints. Now you have switched servers. If you then still get spawn killed by a different group. Aye tough luck homie.
wesleyshark
Banned
Nailed it. They don't want to have to work for the dz gear and are pissy that other human players can impede their progress.
Standing at extract
Other group " lets throw a flash bang and take his shit huehuehue"
Then my group arrives
" oh man there's more guys, lets not"
I told them i heard everything lol
Scary enough i had yellows on me, i was freaking out
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It is a pain in the ass ranking up
It would be cool if they offered a few things at lvl 40DZ though
Large gap and people may not see any yellows drop in that time frame
Other group " lets throw a flash bang and take his shit huehuehue"
Then my group arrives
" oh man there's more guys, lets not"
I told them i heard everything lol
Scary enough i had yellows on me, i was freaking out
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It is a pain in the ass ranking up
It would be cool if they offered a few things at lvl 40DZ though
Large gap and people may not see any yellows drop in that time frame
You don't have to go into the DZ as a level 30 with blues. Run some CM and get geared up for DZ. DZ is harder than CMs (at least 2 of the CMs!), especially if you want to do DZ solo (which is a death wish, tbh, if you are a 30 in blues) so this progression only makes sense to me.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
The issue is you have no idea what their equipment is like. All you can see is their Level and if they're Level 30 they can be 50-200k dps for all you know.
Once again, unlike some I am trying to listen to both sides of the DZ opinions.
Yeah its truly commendable to take on such a crazy balancing act. They have done a lot of good so far, but it was by listening to people complaining about how harsh the DZ was. People keep forgetting that Massive listened and reduced the penalty of death and death as a Rogue.
Wait, what? So people are excited over something they don't even know what it is? And they named it before saying even what it was?
I get them saying "new mode coming, look for it soon," but they said "Incursions are coming," like I'm supposed to know what an incursion is, like they announced CTF or something.
This is GABBO all over again!
SumptuousLemur
Banned
Well the game gives you a mission at Level 10 to go to the DZ....
wesleyshark
Banned
But that is the point. You're not supposed to know who is a badass and who is fresh meat. This does not need changed.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
D-Tech is only used for blueprints that are from the DZ though. If you have those blueprints than you are already rank 50 in the DZ and should have plenty good gear to allow farming.
I agree that their drop rate or mode of acquiring it should be looked at, but I don't think it should be available anywhere other than the DZ.
I would pass out from excitement if they added a CTF mode to the game, haha. I just want more PvP. While I love the DZ, it's not really PvP to me because 95% of my kills/deaths have been against people who didn't see it coming (or I didn't see it coming) or when a side was outnumbered (e.g., chasing a rogue). I'd love some actual PvP where both sides were equal and expecting a fight.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
Yes but I was addressing the fact that I don't know they were Level 30s with blues when I steamrolled them, so I can't be hypocritical when I don't know if they are low level or not.
If I knew they were low level I wouldn't attack and go after the highly geared players for more rewarding encounters.
Dark Zone Tip of Evil: If a player is looking at their watch it means they are in the menu, its time to attack
wesleyshark
Banned
Agreed. Their drop rate needs further adjustment, but they should not be allowed to be gained outside the dark zone.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Yup, you take that chance when you decide to attack another agent and I wouldn't want that changed.
However, I would like the names of other agents to appear over their heads a bit faster, especially when they walk/roll in front of your gunfire.
If I'm chasing an agent I don't want to stop and aim at him/her to see the name, that's annoying.
Correct, they did. But they did that to increase the amount of people going rogue and to increase the amount of tension and chaos. Not to reduce it in any way.
Just make sure that you have less than half of your HE backpack filled before logging out and you should be fine.
Orochinagis
Member
Any cool gear or weapons on vendors right now?
SumptuousLemur
Banned
http://redd.it/4cih8c
The subreddit does a daily update with all the vendors that refresh daily, along with the daily missions details and a "gear item of the day" if anything really good shows up.
TheLetdown
Member
If they're in the DZ with 50k DPS, that's on them.
Just like in PvE where you shouldn't take on Challenging until you have a nice amount of purple gear equipped, at the least, the same goes for the DZ.
It's not the place to get your easy starter gear. Or it is, if you want, but fully accept that the possibility of someone going rogue is there.
hunchback
Member
I'm just starting out and have a few questions. Did you solo most of the PvE mission's?
I'm at the point where I'm unlocking the medical and tech wings of the base. I'm level 5 but when I try to solo the Lincoln tunnel which unlocks the security or tech wing, I get slaughtered. It says it's for level 5 agents.
Should I hook up with randoms and complete them that way or should I do side missions and over level myself so I can do it solo? All of my equipment is green and I have 2 blue weapons. My dps is only 2 thousand.
Thank you in advance for any info or tips.
I'm at the point where I'm unlocking the medical and tech wings of the base. I'm level 5 but when I try to solo the Lincoln tunnel which unlocks the security or tech wing, I get slaughtered. It says it's for level 5 agents.
Should I hook up with randoms and complete them that way or should I do side missions and over level myself so I can do it solo? All of my equipment is green and I have 2 blue weapons. My dps is only 2 thousand.
Thank you in advance for any info or tips.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
I love the emergent gameplay that comes from the DZ.
Remembering names is probably the most important thing to do when going Rogue. Knowing that the person arriving at your extraction was the person you killed a few minutes ago is vital to getting the drop on them.
Also, make sure to eye them up! HE gear has that yellow division colour outline and you can easily see the weapon they have equipped and their secondary on their back. Learning to eye someone up quickly to make that decision to attack is so much fun ahaha
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