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[Iceman829]

if you die in the DZ do you also lose your Phoenix credits that you just picked up?

You only drop the contaminated loot you are carrying. Some keys and DZ cash. You also lose DZ xp.

No one can touch the items in your personal inventory that is not contaminated, your normal funds and your pcreds.

 

[milkham]

I think the problem is that it's clear now that PvE is not a priority feature of the game. If you play PvE, you are basically told to stop after you are able to clear the now easy challenge missions.

you're forgetting all that content in the boxes of the pve world!
we can craft vectors forever

 

[firehawk12]

you're forgetting all that content in the boxes of the pve world!
we can craft vectors forever

Hey man, you can log in every hour to collect a green electronic part from the BoO!
CONTENT.

 

[BLunted]

Right now it is almost impossible for a PvE player to have a full set of 31 HE gear unless you have good RNG or are satisfied with vendor rolls.

I have a mix of crafted 31 and dropped 30 from challenge modes, all tweaked for my build. DZ blueprints would only offer incremental upgrades at this point, so DZ is not required.

Problem is that PVE players just don't have that much to do.

 

[milkham]

Hey man, you can log in every hour to collect a green electronic part from the BoO!
CONTENT.

That's literally contents

 

[firehawk12]

I have a mix of crafted 31 and dropped 30 from challenge modes, all tweaked for my build. DZ blueprints would only offer incremental upgrades at this point, so DZ is not required.

Problem is that PVE players just don't have that much to do.

The whole thing about a game like this is the incremental upgrades though. I mean, maybe the Challenging Incursion is going to be easy as shit and you can just go in with level 30 gear (who knows what those QC guys who took 3 days to beat it were using when they played it), but I would expect that they want you to have good 31 gear with optimal rolls on them.

That's literally contents

Contents of content in my contents.

 

[Deku Tree]

A player who never entered the dark zone would only be missing an ilvl 31 vest at this point. The ilvl 31 holster was sold in the BoO.

All other stuff could be ilvl 31 with no RNG required.

They stated on stream that you shouldn't do challenge before you have at least four pieces of set gear to take advantage of the set gear perk.

 

[firehawk12]

A player who never entered the dark zone would only be missing an ilvl 31 vest at this point. The ilvl 31 holster was sold in the BoO.

All other stuff could be ilvl 31 with no RNG required.

They stated on stream that you shouldn't do challenge before you have at least four pieces of set gear to take advantage of the set gear perk.

I mean, they nerfed crafting, but before the patch the DZ player who can optimize their rolls on the three missing pieces (chest/holster and... gloves I think? I can't remember) is going to have an inherent advantage. The holster had a decent roll, but someone who could have made a dozen holsters probably has a better one.

 

[Deku Tree]

I mean, they nerfed crafting, but before the patch the DZ player who can optimize their rolls on the three missing pieces (chest/holster and... gloves I think? I can't remember) is going to have an inherent advantage. The holster had a decent roll, but someone who could have made a dozen holsters probably has a better one.

Advantage in PvP? If you don't enter the DZ then who cares?

Even if that re-rolling DZ player has better rolls in PvE you can still become an OP super soldier who can blast easily through all PvE content without ever entering the DZ.

Besides they are nerfing re-crafting on Tuesday.

 

[VE3TRO]

Going into DZ in abit.

 

[firehawk12]

Advantage in PvP? If you don't enter the DZ then who cares?

Even if that re-rolling DZ player has better rolls in PvE you can still become an OP super soldier who can blast easily through all PvE content without ever entering the DZ.

Besides they are nerfing re-crafting on Tuesday.

I mean, unless they add more enemy variety into the level 32 PvE named enemies, you're going to have to go into the DZ eventually to find whatever drop you might be looking for. And even then, it's still inherently faster to farm in the DZ than it is in the Challenge modes, especially since they removed the Hornet exploit.

 

[Deku Tree]

I mean, unless they add more enemy variety into the level 32 PvE named enemies, you're going to have to go into the DZ eventually to find whatever drop you might be looking for. And even then, it's still inherently faster to farm in the DZ than it is in the Challenge modes, especially since they removed the Hornet exploit.

If you don't like the DZ at this point then I don't see the long term appeal of this game for people like that TBH.

 

[firehawk12]

If you don't like the DZ at this point then I don't see the long term appeal of this game for people like that TBH.

Pretty much.

 

[Lima]

If you don't like the DZ at this point then I don't see the long term appeal of this game for people like that TBH.

Even then it's not a game you should play every day or find reasons to play it every day. I know I did with Destiny and I won't make that same mistake again.

 

[Deku Tree]

True

 

[BLunted]

The whole thing about a game like this is the incremental upgrades though. .

Ok, maybe incremental wasn't the best word. What I meant was that DZ gear at this point could only offer me something like a 1% upgrade to my DPS and health. Not nearly worth the hassle of dealing with the DZ and not required to be ready for challenge mode incursion.

If you don't like the DZ at this point then I don't see the long term appeal of this game for people like that TBH.

You are correct. Unfortunately, us PVE'ers are only beginning to come to this conclusion now, after money has been spent. Live and learn and buyer beware.

 

[deoee]

True

 

[PatDH]

I came up with a theme song for bambi hunting. Then it shifted to people playing their own theme songs while were on the chase. We attempted to use proxy chat, but it turned out poorly. So we went back to party chat and blasted themes songs are each other.

See you over the weekend!

Haha that's awesome, bring on Sat & Sun - so keen!

Miss you Pat :-(

It's Dom, btw. Stupid GAF name is old and I need to change it but oh well.

Same here Dom! We have to do some big multi hour sessions this weekend just like last weekend.

 

[deadduck]

So many wall glitchers and double revivers going on in the DZ today, so this M44 vs 3 rogues was was very satisfying:

https://youtu.be/HQFnj_TJkN4


About the limited amount of challenge modes, I think Hamish said on stream today more are coming in the update.

 

[deoee]

So many wall glitchers and double revivers going on in the DZ today, so this M44 vs 3 rogues was was very satisfying:

https://youtu.be/HQFnj_TJkN4


About the limited amount of challenge modes, I think Hamish said on stream today more are coming in the update.

Haha that's nice.

 

[wesleyshark]

Just got my 3rd Midas lmao. A Bambi dropped it at Bryant Park.

Going into DZ in abit.

Hahahahahahaha

 

[Trigonx]

did MM, got into a pretty good group and were doing Lex with no glitches in 8 min 6 seconds for our best run. averaging 9 minutes for most, but go into 8 min range for the last 5 runs.

 

[EL CUCO]

This HE drop rate buff is seriously making me consider actually leveling up my materials alt. There's really not much use for it after April 12

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

So many people doing double revive glitch and out of map glitch

Whole bunch of them on PS4 tonight....

survived 7-8 manhunts and 3 hours in the DZ for 2 measly ranks....DZ ranking is so friking slow.

 

[Daft Punk]

So many wall glitchers and double revivers going on in the DZ today, so this M44 vs 3 rogues was was very satisfying:

https://youtu.be/HQFnj_TJkN4


About the limited amount of challenge modes, I think Hamish said on stream today more are coming in the update.

What's your stats at?

 

[Trigonx]

So many wall glitchers and double revivers going on in the DZ today, so this M44 vs 3 rogues was was very satisfying:

https://youtu.be/HQFnj_TJkN4


About the limited amount of challenge modes, I think Hamish said on stream today more are coming in the update.

that was satisfying to watch

 

[deadduck]

What's your stats at?

Currently running, off the top of my head:

242k (accuracy talent on vector), Deadly, 57% crit
135k Brutal, balanced, Deadly m44, 308% headshot
74k health
11k leccy
56% damage MIT

that was satisfying to watch

Cheers, the manhunt guy didn't know what happened. Think the solo guy they were chasing got the rest of their stuff too

 

[Arrrammis]

I still just want something out in the PvE map... I love exploring and coming across named guys walking around with their posse, or randomly finding collectables (I have the map perk, but I just have the HUD turned off), but there is a limited amount of those. Massive is giving us daily missions to go do (kill 10 cleaners, etc.) but I do really want to go out into the other 80% of the map outside of the DZ that is completely empty and having more enemies, random events, generated missions ("Hey, there's a band of cleaners attacking people at [address], please help!"), or just about anything. The DZ is great, but there's so much wasted space in the PvE areas. The PvP* is ok, but sometimes I just want to relax and walk around, shooting enemies, and the DZ is too exciting now that they've made going rogue useful.


*

Spoiler

Gank squads

 

[MaximusPayne]

If you are in a group and a group member kills a rogue, does that count towards the 20 for the I Am The Law trophy?

 

[EL CUCO]

Got home from work an hour earlier to get some extra play time. Stand in the BOO for about an hour calibrating stats/gear.

Facepalm

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

If you are in a group and a group member kills a rogue, does that count towards the 20 for the I Am The Law trophy?

No, it has to say your name for it to count.

 

[Geneijin]

Ok, maybe incremental wasn't the best word. What I meant was that DZ gear at this point could only offer me something like a 1% upgrade to my DPS and health. Not nearly worth the hassle of dealing with the DZ and not required to be ready for challenge mode incursion.

But doesn't the Incursion challenge mode require gear score of 31? I thought it was confirmed. You need a minimum to enter.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/04/the-division-raids-incursions-april-update1-1/

Incursions (as all future raids will be known in The Division) come in Hard and Challenge modes. Gear and weapons will now have a Gear Score which replaces the Gear Level. It’s recommended that all players have a Gear Level/Gear Score of 30 to play Falcon Lost on Hard mode.

Challenge mode is different. It has a required Gear Score of 31, meaning if you haven’t got the right equipment you won’t be able to attempt it.

 

[Bluecondor]

I still just want something out in the PvE map... I love exploring and coming across named guys walking around with their posse, or randomly finding collectables (I have the map perk, but I just have the HUD turned off), but there is a limited amount of those. Massive is giving us daily missions to go do (kill 10 cleaners, etc.) but I do really want to go out into the other 80% of the map outside of the DZ that is completely empty and having more enemies, random events, generated missions ("Hey, there's a band of cleaners attacking people at [address], please help!"), or just about anything. The DZ is great, but there's so much wasted space in the PvE areas. The PvP* is ok, but sometimes I just want to relax and walk around, shooting enemies, and the DZ is too exciting now that they've made going rogue useful.

+1 on this idea.

It would be great add to the endgame if each safehouse had a radio or board that put out random events like what you described above with level 30 enemies. This way, we could revisit any of the neighborhoods at any time and fight against the respective gangs.

 

[deadduck]

But doesn't the Incursion challenge mode require gear score of 31? I thought it was confirmed. You need a minimum to enter.

Hard is recommended.
Harder has a minimum.

 

[Geneijin]

Hard is recommended.
Harder has a minimum.

I was referring to Challenge mode specifically, which is why I stated the CM. I should have been more clearer.

 

[BLunted]

But doesn't the Incursion challenge mode require gear score of 31? I thought it was confirmed. You need a minimum to enter.

https://www.vg247.com/2016/04/04/the-division-raids-incursions-april-update1-1/

Unless the requirement is gear that is coming out on tuesday, then I already meet it. From what was shown in the video, I already have a gear score of something like 200-205.

EDIT: the article is wrong, requirement is 131(can be verified ingame), and during the special report video, high end items listed as being item level 200+

Here is the video I was talking about

 

[Geneijin]

Unless the requirement is gear that is coming out on tuesday, then I already meet it. From what was shown in the video, I already have a gear score of something like 200-205.

EDIT: the article is wrong, requirement is 131(can be verified ingame), and during the special report video, high end items listed as being item level 200+

That's only hard mode though. CM requirements isn't viewable yet but confirmed on the stream.

Also, not all High End items are gonna be 200 plus. New patch notes refute that.

Dark Zone
The vendor in the Church Safe House will now sell items in Dark Zone Funds instead of Phoenix Credits
Added a new Dark Zone bracket for characters with Gear Score 160+

Ranks requirements for Superior and High-End quality items at the Dark Zone Vendors have been adjusted:
Superior (Purple) items: Rank 15 instead of 30
High-End (Gold) level 30 (Gear Score 163): Rank 25 instead of 50
High-End (Gold) level 31 (Gear Score 182): Rank 40 instead of 50

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4dh6yv/the_division_update_11_incursions_patch_notes/

Here is the video I was talking about

Those could be High End 32s. Not all High Ends are the same item level, which means not the same gear score. And it's confirmed High End 32s will be 200+

As you already know, we will be deploying update 1.1 in a few days. This is very exciting for all of us as it will be the first major content update since the release of the game! With it, we will implement new End-Game activities and a new layer of character progression with gear score 204 (equivalent level 32) items and Gear Sets items.

http://tomclancy-thedivision.ubi.co...division-item-drops-and-crafting-in-update-11

 

[BLunted]

That's only hard mode though. CM requirements isn't viewable yet but confirmed on the stream.



https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/4dh6yv/the_division_update_11_incursions_patch_notes/

No, hard mode has a gear score recommendation. Challenge mode has a requirement.

Here is the video

EDIT: You're right, it's quite possible they were showing lvl 32 HE's and purples shown were rated as gearscore 131. I am pretty sure I am in the range, most likely on the higher end.

 

[Geneijin]

No, hard mode has a gear score recommendation. Challenge mode has a requirement.

Here is the video

That's exactly what I've been saying... hence Incursion challenge mode.

 

[GalacticToast]

Anyone want to help me through my first daily Challenge thing? I still don't quite understand what it is, but I just hit Level 30.

 

[VE3TRO]

DZ tonight is full of agents. Probably come across 6 groups within 5 minutes.

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Anyone want to help me through my first daily Challenge thing? I still don't quite understand what it is, but I just hit Level 30.

Today's CM can be rough for a fresh 30, you should try the 2 easier ones first - Lincoln Tunnel and Lexington.

Don't mind helping out though, I can do CM if we find 2 more (PS4).

 

[chogidogs]

Do I get the same benefits from the headshot pulse talent that I have when I actually pulse all enemies?

 

[Kalamari]

Today's CM can be rough for a fresh 30, you should try the 2 easier ones first - Lincoln Tunnel and Lexington.

Don't mind helping out though, I can do CM if we find 2 more (PS4).

I'll help

 

[GalacticToast]

Today's CM can be rough for a fresh 30, you should try the 2 easier ones first - Lincoln Tunnel and Lexington.

Don't mind helping out though, I can do CM if we find 2 more (PS4).

Do I have to wait for those to come around? I'm assuming they cycle daily, right?

 

[VE3TRO]

Do I get the same benefits from the headshot pulse talent that I have when I actually pulse all enemies?

Seems so, haven't really tested though.

 

[MikeyMike]

I'll help

I'll be number 4.

PSN : MikeGaum1984

EDIT : If I can actually connect to the darn game -_-

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Do I have to wait for those to come around? I'm assuming they cycle daily, right?

There are only 4 CM missions in the game right now, which can be done anytime and repeated as many times as you want. The daily CM just gives you 20 extra Phoenix Credits over the non-daily ones.

I'll help

Thanks, I'll be online in a bit.

 

[GalacticToast]

There are only 4 CM missions in the game right now, which can be done anytime and repeated as many times as you want. The daily CM just gives you 20 extra Phoenix Credits over the non-daily ones.



Thanks, I'll be online in a bit.

Yay. DGAF to the rescue.

 

[Tawpgun]

Pro tip: if you have a high end drop you really want, maybe don't extract it at Bryant park while rogues are fighting other people.

Thanks for the high end chest with reckless anyway Bambi