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Tom Clancy's The Division |OT2| The Wolves of Wall Street
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What's the tl;dr?
No problem.
I jumped to the end and he seemed to be suggesting the game isnt an RPG.
gutterboy44
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Do story mission mobs on hard scale to the highest level player on the squad or squad average level?
Highest
gutterboy44
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Poop. What a shitty system. I have to deliberately try to gain as little XP when I play solo so I don't fuck over my group.
KevMan1815
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I'm curious what everyone's take on a raid is. Because in every game I've played with "raids" it's doing an instance with a group larger than a standard party. Last info I saw, Incursions are still a four man group.
Did raids somehow become synonymous with "fight mechanics?" If that's the case most five man dungeons in WoW are raids.
Flying Toaster
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It is crappy... Yay extra character slots!
I didn't watch the whole thing: downgrade, false advertising, good pc port, beautiful, bullet sponges. Then i closed the video.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
So I picked it up from Redbox on PS4, played in the Xbox one closed and open beta.
Holy fuck did this game deliver, so much to do. I am a level 17 in PVE and haven't even touched the DZ yet. Yea I need to buy this.
The only aspect I would like to see added is straight up competitive multiplayer, reduced health all that jazz.
The mechanics feel so much like Socom 2 to me that it would just be incredible!!!
Holy fuck did this game deliver, so much to do. I am a level 17 in PVE and haven't even touched the DZ yet. Yea I need to buy this.
The only aspect I would like to see added is straight up competitive multiplayer, reduced health all that jazz.
The mechanics feel so much like Socom 2 to me that it would just be incredible!!!
Se_7_eN
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It's not his kind of game...
I agree, and there are quite a few of the old SOCOM devs playing this.
It's a silly system. I can kind of understand it in hard mode, but in normal they should just have the enemies a set level and scale damage down accordingly. I'd like to play with my friends but I hopped in with them yesterday and would have made their mission unmanageable.
berserk_ftw
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Does anyone else have severe sound problems on ps4? Lots of times the sound dissappeared and never came back so I had to restart the game.
Praises engine and world that devs build with that engine. His contact to end game is through talking to people who are doing it and basically rises concern that many are feeling about PvE and DZ endgame. Hopes that game had more interactions with the world and people in it. Doesn't see it as RPG in any way.
In the end somewhat positive about the game and hopes he can get past gameplay design (enemies not dying to 1-2 hits) so he could enjoy game more.
Acknowledges that it's a good game but not for him. Then goes on to list a wide variety of complaints (bullet sponges, fanboys, tedious, it's not an rpg, worth waiting a year before buying it and other minor issues).
It seems to be a common issue. Must've happened to me twice so far.
Orochinagis
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Are there hats that doesnt hide ponytails?
xplicitone
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My stats sucks compared to yall haha
xplicitone
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It's almost like it was Destiny.
Damn... Broadway Emporium (lvl 8 Mission) on Normal, solo and for the first time, was so intense. World building in this game is impeccable. In light of VR announcements from all three parties, I can imagine myself pissing my pants every once in a while if games get even more immersive than they are right now.
Cannot understand the criticisms towards "bullet-sponges". It's like people have decided that realistic settings must have realistic kill speeds when using guns.
Destiny has gigantic bullet sponges, yet it's never brought up because that's in space and gets a free pass.
smh
edit: must understanding of Destiny gripes was too limited to make this claim.
Destiny has gigantic bullet sponges, yet it's never brought up because that's in space and gets a free pass.
smh
edit: must understanding of Destiny gripes was too limited to make this claim.
xplicitone
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I'm going to buy First Wave and Classic to go with my Socom. The classic talent with bonus damage might be better
goomba stomper
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I just fell in love with my current character set up. My first HE drop was the Caducues assault rifle and it has a weapon skill that reduces all skill cooldowns by 5.5% for every headshot (doesn't have to kill, any headshot triggers the effect.) I paired the self heal + damage boost and resistance with smart cover. With the cooldown perk on the Caducues smart cover and my first aid are so close to always available to me, most of the time my smart cover is ready to be used again before the initial is even done. The damage boosts are making up for my lowered DPS as well, I'm getting 285k critical headshots with my marksman rifle. I just completed the challenge mission with such little issue, never had to use a medkit or my signature skill.
Thanks, I'll keep testing out weapons for now and not let DPS focus bug me. I was just swapping up to guns I normally wouldn't use when it complained about item level since I wouldn't notice it otherwise. Yeah I've been adjusting to the aiming and it seemed a bit slow when scoped at first but I told myself I could always crank the mouse speed up via the mouse on the fly if needed. Seems that I've adjusted well to it since I haven't thought about doing that in a while.
Need to put mods on the weapons too since my friend mentioned that at lunch. I keep forgetting to apply them. I need to figure out how the armor/gear mods (or whatever they're called) work too since I have never used them and they're just sitting in my inventory. I guess I'll build a list of questions and hit the thread with them once I get to level 30 if I haven't figured them out as I go along.
xplicitone
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This is false. Bullet sponges in Destiny were always brought up, but for the bosses of strikes mostly. They even toned down the biggest bullet sponge of them all.
I think because in challenge mode division, every enemy is a huge sponge. Some people don't enjoy that whether they aren't with a capable team or what.
everyday math
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This is a bullshit comment I'm sorry. It was brought up so much you must've never read anything destiny related. Bungie responded by toning down the bullet sponginess.
So I got this vector roll:
Headshot damage is increased by 24% when using this weapon
Using a skill increases your critical hit chance by 8%
Damage increases by 13% when closer then 10 meter to the target.
Yah or nay?
ffejeromdiks
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Wanted to continue this conversation from the last thread:
This is extremeeeeeely disappointing. I really enjoyed the mass hordes of rogues in Beta, but I suppose I understand that was solely because everyone had nothing to lose but everything to gain then. I was getting into insane 30 minute firefights between groups that transformed the streets into rainbow loot nirvana, I was hoping I was experiencing a microcosm of the full game, but I don't think anything like that could possibly happen in the game as it is. In fact I think I've seen one rogue since launch day.
It's too bad that by the time they patch more incentives to go rogue, most people will be decked out in the best gear and not really have much desire to steal crap gear from other players.
This is extremeeeeeely disappointing. I really enjoyed the mass hordes of rogues in Beta, but I suppose I understand that was solely because everyone had nothing to lose but everything to gain then. I was getting into insane 30 minute firefights between groups that transformed the streets into rainbow loot nirvana, I was hoping I was experiencing a microcosm of the full game, but I don't think anything like that could possibly happen in the game as it is. In fact I think I've seen one rogue since launch day.
It's too bad that by the time they patch more incentives to go rogue, most people will be decked out in the best gear and not really have much desire to steal crap gear from other players.
berserk_ftw
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Last three days I was hoping for a purple chest drop and today I bought one, one mission later, 4 new purple chests. 😅
half a moon
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If it's a lockout hopefully you can run it up to 4 times a week per account rather than toon. People would probably run it on 4 chars and give the loot to their main otherwise.
GeordieMark
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I have completely changed my opinion on The Division over the course of today. Yesterday, I hated it. I found it boring, repetitive and frustrating and was about ready to give up on it, but after playing it all day today, I am starting to love it. I still have plenty of gripes with it. The loot isn't very exciting, and it can be bloody hard at times if you get the wrong group, but its incredibly addictive and the dark zone is a really cool idea. The tension, followed by relief when I managed to extract my loot was pretty awesome.
Yo, what safe house vendor is the classic being sold at?
False. This has been brought up so many times in the OT, reddit, Bungie forums, basically everywhere. It's why one of the Strike bosses was called Spongebob for a long ass time. I still call him that even though his sponginess was toned down (a lot) due to never remembering his real name.
Your negative is actually the positive that you cited from the beta. If everyone is decked out in top-tier gear, then the streets will become bathed in agent blood.
gutterboy44
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It would be nice that when you walk up to a mission entrance and you have that matchmaking/difficulty floating hud, you saw the loadouts of your squad. You could easily see where you may have gaps. Hell, any way to see the gear of your squadmates would be nice.
Yeah, it's baffling. I would also appreciate some end of mission stats.
A one size fits all definition of raids just doesnt work in the modern day. Originally raids had 70+ people... these days games like Destiny and FFXIV have single digit group sizes. So I think its pretty arbitrary to start trying define what a raid is strictly by the number of people involved.
In my opinion raids are more about structure than player count these days. 5 man dungeons arent raids because they are simple bite sized bits of content that you finish in a half hour or less. I see raids as something that require a bit more commitment and coordination relative to the other pve content in the game.
I didn't even wanted the gun. Bought it because why the hell not. Have nearly 1 million credits saved anyway. Both the vendor stock one and the one that drop still aren't as good as the SOCOM M1A I've been using since Saturday.
everyday math
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This glitch is annoying
I would loooooooooove this.
But I can also see how it would be used to shame lower geared players, just like DPS meters in WoW.
This glitch is annoying
Yeah it is a graphical glitch and that needs to be fixed.
The Division is set in modern day Manhattan. You're shooting at looters in hoodies.
Destiny is set in fantasy world literally filled with space magic. You're shooting at alien robots and wizards.
It's not too hard to understand why the former doesn't seem appropriate for bullet-sponge adversaries that can take a full clip of ammunition to the head, does it?
This glitch is annoying
it's not a "glitch" per say.
It is your camera going into an object.
Your camera HAS to zoom out for the menu so it will just phase into whatever is in that position behind you. A wall, a crate, an NPC.
If you make sure not to have anything to close behind you, it won't happen.
The Division is an RPG first and foremost before anything else though. The fact that it's set in Manhattan only solidifies the atmosphere. Constraining the combat mechanics to only be "realistic one shot headshots" is an incredibly close-minded way of looking at it. Not every game needs to fit into a cookie cutter mold.
Still needs to be fixed no matter where you are standing really.
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