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Toonami |OT5| If we die in this thread, we die in real life

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BatDan

Bane? Get them on board, I'll call it in.
Impressive ratings. If it continues they could get more and more money. Goood.

*checks Tumblr* Hahaha oh wow. They give zero fucks about spoilers.
 
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kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Seda said:
12:00AM Bleach 1.0 HH, 1.255 million
12:30AM Naruto 0.9 HH, 1.176 million
1:00AM One Piece 0.9 HH, 1.051 million
1:30AM Soul Eater 0.8 HH, 973,000
2:00AM Sword Art Online 0.7 HH, 930,000
2:30AM IGPX: Immortal Grand Prix 0.6 HH, 705,000
3:00AM Eureka 7 0.6 HH, 731,000
3:30AM Big O/An 0.5 HH, 612,000
4:00AM Fullmetal: Brotherhood 0.5 HH, 565,000
4:30AM Cowboy Bebop 0.4 HH, 543,000
5:00AM Inuyasha 0.4 HH, 524,000
5:30AM Inuyasha 0.5 HH, 566,000

http://www.tvmediainsights.com/highlights/28387/adultswim-ratings-scorecard-week-of-july-22-2013/

Five shows above 900k is nothing to sneeze at. Sword Art definitely maintained the ratings better than IGPX could.
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SAO off to a strong start I see. =D
 
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foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
toonami has a really good fanbase that is willing to stay up that late for its shows, this wouldnt happen for anyone else
 
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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
789shadow said:
I don't know why you expected better, it was a UFC night. Considering that, these ratings are better than expected.
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Not to mention that a 1.0 has been pretty much the absolute ceiling for Adult Swim Action/Toonami, and Bleach managed to hit it.


GMN said:
It was over well before Bleach started.
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Doesn't matter, it can still change viewing patterns. People go to bars or hang out with friends to watch, which changes where they are, what they're doing, and what they're interested in for the rest of the night.
 
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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
GMN said:
Then I'm expecting better on a non-UFC night because they hit about average numbers with this one.
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900,000 at 2 in the fucking morning are not Toonami's average numbers.

The only thing really dragging it down is that Inuyasha is capable of doing better in that 5 am slot than it did this weekend and all of the final two hour shows could be nudged up by a few tens of thousands on a good night.

The opening three hours of Toonami this weekend AVERAGED 1.015 million viewers, and that includes a 225k loss in viewership for IGPX.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
MetatronM said:
900,000 at 2 in the fucking morning are not Toonami's average numbers.

The only thing really dragging it down is that Inuyasha is capable of doing better in that 5 am slot than it did this weekend and all of the final two hour shows could be nudged up by a few tens of thousands on a good night.

The opening three hours of Toonami this weekend AVERAGED 1.015 million viewers, and that includes a 225k loss in viewership for IGPX.
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That would be why I said "about average." While SAO's numbers are fine, I would hope it's doing more than just dragging the usual viewers later into the night. The numbers for the shows preceding it don't really show anyone new being brought in.
 
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789shadow

Banned
GMN said:
That would be why I said "about average." While SAO's numbers are fine, I would hope it's doing more than just dragging the usual viewers later into the night. The numbers for the shows preceding it don't really show anyone new being brought in.
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I'm not basing anything off of this week because, as I said, UFC night. I expect pentamil next week.
 
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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
GMN said:
That would be why I said "about average." While SAO's numbers are fine, I would hope it's doing more than just dragging the usual viewers later into the night. The numbers for the shows preceding it don't really show anyone new being brought in.
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But last week, which was unanimously declared to be a night of GREAT ratings well well above average (woo quad million! and all that), only saw the opening three hours average 981,833...

(And the week before that, which also had some very high numbers for the big 3, the opening three hours averaged 989,166.)


In fact, going back over the last several months, which has generally been the highest rated time period overall since Toonami came back, the ONLY night that I can find with an average as high as or higher than this weekend was the other quad million week at the start of June with its batshit crazy numbers.
 
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Crocodile

Member
Everybody likes to go all "ZOMG a UFC fight! That might hurt Toonami ratings!" Is there any actual evidence to suggest that there is significant overlap specifically between Toonami's audience and those who watch UFC fights? If these people aren't watching UFC fights, why do we assume they would watch Toonami? Are we just assuming that because males 18-49 might be interested in both?
 
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Gucci Messiah

Banned
SAO is not going to break 1M. Remember when I said this a while ago?

MCXC Pioneer said:
I'm still skeptical. Can SAO break 1m once or twice? Sure, but I highly doubt it'll consistently get those ratings. I'm guessing it'll average 850-900K. I would love to be wrong though.
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I love toonami as much as anyone in here but expecting five shows to top 1M is a little too optimistic. At least on a consistent basis.
 
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mightynine

Member
Not to pick on SAO, but IGPX's numbers should be a concern. To me, it shows the SAO premiere may not have held on to a lot of people. On the flip slide, it could just mean a bunch of people decided to call it a night then.

Heck, SAO didn't even make into the Ratings PR:

Saturday’s new episodes of Bleach (12 a.m.), Naruto (12:30 a.m.), and One Piece (1 a.m.) each ranked #1 in their respective time periods among men 18-24 & 18-34. All new episodes within the TOONAMI block increased targeted delivery by mostly double-digit gains across adults & men vs. the same time period last year.
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Amikami

Banned
everyday math said:
Cried like a baby. It was so well done in the game
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I think the storm games are done pretty well overall even when considering the way they left the Madara and Tobi battle in Storm 3. I remember loving the way they handled Pain Vs Jiraiya in Storm 2, which somehow felt better executed than the original source to me. But yeah, I was surprised by how well done that was.

Hmm, this reminds me that I'm going to get inevitably emotional when I play through the Uchiha dlc.


Yum. Those numbers. We'll be breaking a new mil record in no time assuming SAO keeps up its momentum. And I notice people coming back for E7. They came back for one of the best eps in the series so they made the right choice.
 
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Tenumi

Banned
Seda said:
12:00AM Bleach 1.0 HH, 1.255 million
12:30AM Naruto 0.9 HH, 1.176 million
1:00AM One Piece 0.9 HH, 1.051 million
1:30AM Soul Eater 0.8 HH, 973,000
2:00AM Sword Art Online 0.7 HH, 930,000
2:30AM IGPX: Immortal Grand Prix 0.6 HH, 705,000
3:00AM Eureka 7 0.6 HH, 731,000
3:30AM Big O/An 0.5 HH, 612,000
4:00AM Fullmetal: Brotherhood 0.5 HH, 565,000
4:30AM Cowboy Bebop 0.4 HH, 543,000
5:00AM Inuyasha 0.4 HH, 524,000
5:30AM Inuyasha 0.5 HH, 566,000

http://www.tvmediainsights.com/highlights/28387/adultswim-ratings-scorecard-week-of-july-22-2013/

Five shows above 900k is nothing to sneeze at. Sword Art definitely maintained the ratings better than IGPX could.
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789shadow said:
I don't know why you expected better, it was a UFC night. Considering that, these ratings are better than expected.
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Not too bad ratings, especially since its was a UFC night. I'm honestly glad to see that SAO did pretty good for itself.
 
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foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Amikami said:
I think the storm games are done pretty well overall even when considering the way they left the Madara and Tobi battle in Storm 3. I remember loving the way they handled Pain Vs Jiraiya in Storm 2, which somehow felt better executed than the original source to me. But yeah, I was surprised by how well done that was.

Hmm, this reminds me that I'm going to get inevitably emotional when I play through the Uchiha dlc.


Yum. Those numbers. We'll be breaking a new mil record in no time assuming SAO keeps up its momentum. And I notice people coming back for E7. They came back for one of the best eps in the series so they made the right choice.
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ive never played a storm game D: but i am a clash of ninja fan
 
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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
mightynine said:
Not to pick on SAO, but IGPX's numbers should be a concern. To me, it shows the SAO premiere may not have held on to a lot of people. On the flip slide, it could just mean a bunch of people decided to call it a night then.
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It's an IGPX problem. IGPX lost nearly 200k from its lead-in last week too, despite being a half hour earlier and behind Soul Eater. The week before that it lost 231k from its lead-in.
 
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grandjedi6

Master of the Google Search
Crocodile said:
Everybody likes to go all "ZOMG a UFC fight! That might hurt Toonami ratings!" Is there any actual evidence to suggest that there is significant overlap specifically between Toonami's audience and those who watch UFC fights? If these people aren't watching UFC fights, why do we assume they would watch Toonami? Are we just assuming that because males 18-49 might be interested in both?
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While Nielsen itself has way more extensive data on it, we just get the basic gender/age demographics. So, yes, the UFC claim is based on them both attracting the 18-49 male demographic. But UFC is a historical deadweight on everyone else's ratings and unless toonami's and UFC's audiences are wholly separate, its going to have some affect on it. Its just a matter of degree.

But you'd be right to question the matter of degree for last saturday. The UFC fight was a historical low rating despite still garnering the top spot (in the 18-49 male demo). So instead of the UFC fight pulling everyone down, it seems that the demographic just wasn't watching much TV that night. UFC usually does worse during summer fights so its probably just good weather making 18-49 males going out for the night rather than watch TV.

So yeah, considering Toonami still did really well, the UFC fight probably didn't effect it too much this week.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
MetatronM said:
But last week, which was unanimously declared to be a night of GREAT ratings well well above average (woo quad million! and all that), only saw the opening three hours average 981,833...

(And the week before that, which also had some very high numbers for the big 3, the opening three hours averaged 989,166.)


In fact, going back over the last several months, which has generally been the highest rated time period overall since Toonami came back, the ONLY night that I can find with an average as high as or higher than this weekend was the other quad million week at the start of June with its batshit crazy numbers.
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except i'm not referring to the first three hours, i'm referring to the first two. Bleach and Naruto getting between 1.1 to 1.3 million is pretty standard, while One Piece and Soul Eater getting from 900k to 1.1 million is standard as well. this week saw no real change from that; it was business as usual apart from SAO kicking IGPX's ass. what i'm saying is that i expected (or hoped) SAO would bring in an audience beyond what appears to be the usual crowd. and maybe next week that'll be true.
 
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mightynine

Member
MetatronM said:
It's an IGPX problem. IGPX lost nearly 200k from its lead-in last week too, despite being a half hour earlier and behind Soul Eater. The week before that it lost 231k from its lead-in.
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Well, then that SAO number looks better then and could be representative of how it will perform.

Also for those bringing up the UFC fight, look at it like this: if it was a truly marquee matchup, it would be on PPV. The free shows aren't going to feature as big of a draw as the match that kicked ratings in the shorts a few weeks back.
 
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Doctor Decimate

Member
i'm 99.99% sure this is fake and it'd sure be easy to just make up, but here's something somebody posted on the Toonami boards

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Doctor Decimate

Member
i don't believe it either. i mean, for one it's not even done airing in Japan. also, 2:30 in the morning. who the hell premieres Attack on Goddamn Titan at 2:30 in the morning?
 
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BassForever

Member
GMN said:
i'm 99.99% sure this is fake and it'd sure be easy to just make up, but here's something somebody posted on the Toonami boards
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More fake then fake

I do expect to see something like that someday, but not until next year after AoT is finished in Japan.
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
MCXC Pioneer said:
HxH is really good, why didn't I start watching this earlier?
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No idea. Keep in mind it only gets better. Easily the best in the genre. Each of the three arcs after the first has a claim for best in the series and for best in the genre. It doesn't get any better than the
chimera ant
arc for me. So good, we would be so lucky if someone would pick it up and put it on Toonami.
 
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BassForever

Member
GMN said:
i'm thinking it'll replace Soul Eater, or Soul Eater's replacement.
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I feel like Soul Eater should be replaced by other longer running shonen anime ala HXH 2011 or Fairy Tail just to keep the top of the line up consistent for a long length of time. I'd rather see AoT or other 26/13 episode run anime in the 2-3 hour so that those hours are constantly getting new material to keep people staying up that late. 3-6 can be for whatever series they want to rerun as I don't think there is any room to grow down there.

B-Dubs said:
No idea. Keep in mind it only gets better. Easily the best in the genre. Each of the three arcs after the first has a claim for best in the series and for best in the genre. It doesn't get any better than the
chimera ant
arc for me. So good, we would be so lucky if someone would pick it up and put it on Toonami.
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So either the
Heaven's Gate, Yorknew, or Greed Island arcs
:p

Seriously though
Chimera Ant arc so damn good
 
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everyday math

Banned
I would love to see HXH put into the mix. Haven't watched it yet. And it's just too much fun watching news shows with you guys. Compared to watching it by myself.
 
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Future Foundation

Member
Man God said:
I played through all of .hack for a second time with a buddy late 2011/early 2012 and even went as far as completing the Item Completion Event. Even if you drag out INFECTION to the end (getting everyone their best armor and weapons and completing all the side bits you're talking about at most a 15 hour game.

Same with 2 and 3. 4 is closer to 20 for all the sidequests and 30 for the item completion event.

But yes, the best part about the game are the email conversations, random fake crap on the newsboards and the few sidequests where you learn stuff about the other characters real lives.
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yami4ct said:
So, been playing through the original .hack after all this SAO talk inspired me to bust it out.

Man, that game is way shorter than I remembered. You could lose hours to it if you wanted, but there really isn't much to do side quest wise. I'm 8 hours in and almost done at this point. Definitely in the last 25%. That game is still really boring from a gameplay perspective. Combat is pretty simple and slow.

From a story perspective, it's as strange and cool as I remember. It has problems for sure. It loves to obfuscate important details for the sake of creating mystery. Still, the way it drops in small moments about the characters and their outside lives is really neat. It really brings SAO's lack of subtlety into stark contrast. The way they convey world details is far more interesting than SAOs giant text wall of "a ton of people are dead". If SAO gets one point, though, it's that it actually makes the world feel populated. It feels like an MMO. The .hack games are clearly hardware and budget limited. The worlds feel small and empty. That's really the most disappointing aspect. Base story is still pretty interesting, even if it's convoluted. Really glad I picked this up again. I have some really fond memories and, for the most part, they've held up.
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It's cool to know that I'm not the only one getting the .Hack urge in the wake of SAO. I actually spent some of Monday looking for my copies of INFECTION and G.U.
 
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B-Dubs

No Scrubs
everyday math said:
I would love to see HXH put into the mix. Haven't watched it yet. And it's just too much fun watching news shows with you guys. Compared to watching it by myself.
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Honestly, I've only been reading the manga so far. I'm waiting for someone to pick it up and dub it, I'd rather not deal with subtitles with a series this long.
 
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