When Netflix US first got TTGL they messed up the airing order...at an absolutely tragically bad moment. Like major spoilers. I'll point it out when exactly this happens when we get to it.
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When Netflix US first got TTGL they messed up the airing order...at an absolutely tragically bad moment. Like major spoilers. I'll point it out when exactly this happens when we get to it.
I am sure most of us are going to miss it. Good news? Hellsing Ultimate will ease the pain.
These milkshake memes bring Bboy to the yard....
I made this some time after I saw the film in theaters. Even made it both a Steam avy and spray for Team Fortress 2.
Fuck, I miss MGS:TUS.
BassForever
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Bleach's direction after soul society was fine same with general plot points, the problem was Kubo introduced WAAAAAAY too many characters and gave each of them a main character esque fight in length which bogged things down massively.
Make the soul society 5-7 divisions
Make the vizored just Shinji
Make the Arracar just the main 10
Also I'd have given Tatsuki a spirit power to fight with as she was well established early on.
Make the soul society 5-7 divisions
Make the vizored just Shinji
Make the Arracar just the main 10
Also I'd have given Tatsuki a spirit power to fight with as she was well established early on.
I doubt Bleach Kai would happen. It tanked in the ratings leading to the series getting canned and manga sales have been declining leading Kubo to wrap things up. One Piece Kai is more or less guaranteed in 10-15 years assuming Oda wraps things up by then. Until then, One Pace project would have to do. Naruto could also get a Kai version as well.
Doctor Decimate
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it's actually very easy to narrow it down to even just 9. Yamamoto doesn't need a squad, Soi Fon (or however you spell it) and that one guy are useless, and nobody cares about the fox guy or the blind guy. that's four squads right there.
from there you can narrow it down even further depending on how you feel about certain characters. Gin probably doesn't even need his own squad, and i'd say you need Shunsui and Ukitake just to have "good guy captains", but i can see an argument for why at least one of them doesn't need to exist. the only reason i don't say Unohana needs the axe is because i think a medical squad makes sense, and Hitsugaya and Rangiku only stay because popularity. i mean really if you wanna go with the characters who have a significant effect on the plot you can easily make it 6, which is counting Aizen's former squad which becomes pretty much pointless afterwards.
BassForever
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Commander Yamoto
Division 1: Unohana and Sui Feng
Division 2: Aizen and Gin
Division 3: Ice Tard and Boobs
Division 4: Byakuya and Renji
Division 5: Kenpachi and Ikkau (make Yachiru just around with Kenpachi)
Division 6: Mayuri and Nemu
Division 7: Ukitake and Rukia
Cut almost everyone else, perhaps have one or two odd Soul Reapers like Ayasegawa and Momo. You can keep Sui Feng as an assassin/ninja type fighter but give her a bit more medical skill. I feel awkward putting Gin in the same divison as Aizen but I'm not really sure who I'd switch him with. My first thought was Rukia as that would open up some interesting possibilities like by letting Aizen be "opposed" to Rukia's treatment and actually aid Ichigo and co until his death.
There are a lot of ways you could play it, the series just needs the characters to be cut in half and that fixes a good chunk of the problems.
Division 1: Unohana and Sui Feng
Division 2: Aizen and Gin
Division 3: Ice Tard and Boobs
Division 4: Byakuya and Renji
Division 5: Kenpachi and Ikkau (make Yachiru just around with Kenpachi)
Division 6: Mayuri and Nemu
Division 7: Ukitake and Rukia
Cut almost everyone else, perhaps have one or two odd Soul Reapers like Ayasegawa and Momo. You can keep Sui Feng as an assassin/ninja type fighter but give her a bit more medical skill. I feel awkward putting Gin in the same divison as Aizen but I'm not really sure who I'd switch him with. My first thought was Rukia as that would open up some interesting possibilities like by letting Aizen be "opposed" to Rukia's treatment and actually aid Ichigo and co until his death.
There are a lot of ways you could play it, the series just needs the characters to be cut in half and that fixes a good chunk of the problems.
The only ones I remember ( and I barely remember any names)
Ice Shota
Boob Lady
Obviously Evil looking guy
Jobber Renji
Hippie looking dude
Crazy giant guy with his Loli
Aizen
.... that's it.
BassForever
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Well yes, but the argument would be that if we cut down the roster in half we're giving each character nearly double the screen time which leads to them being more memorable.
BassForever
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Dbz kai buu saga only happened because of how well dbz kai did in the us so its certainly possible
Should have stuck to DBZ and named all the characters after dishes and undergarments. Better yet they could have taken One Piece's route, said fuck it and named them all easy to remember short names.
Fun fact: Everyone in One Piece is supposed to be speaking English as their natural tongue!
Gucci Messiah
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I think Bleach is fine the way it is and the only truly bad arc is the 'New Captain Appears' one with Amagai.
I know that I am in the extreme minority with this opinion.
I know that I am in the extreme minority with this opinion.
I have actually never seen New Captain...and now the Bleach super fan is telling me its truly bad.
Whelp.
BassForever
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I don't think any of the arcs are bad, just bloated with too many characters, but that filler arc sounds awful if you say its bad
You even got Man god scared lol
Bleach has by far the hardest to remember names and terminology of any show I've ever seen. I'm not even sure if the words they are using are real words or made up but when someone uses their "zam-pak-toe" or whatever, they usually spout a bunch of nonsense that is meaningless to me as a casual viewer.
Star Trek: TNG has easier to follow technobabble.
Gucci Messiah
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It's not hard to understand if you've been following the series for 300+ episodes but obviously a casual fan is going to have trouble with the terminology. There was a point in time where I didn't know what the heck was happening in One Piece but once I took the time to plow through the episodes, it started to make sense.
A lot of people complain about the names being overly complex and hard to remember but I don't have that issue, probably because I'm a mega fan
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Imperial Bishop
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WARNING: Contains FMA, Naruto and One Piece spoilers.
is by far the worst arc in Bleach.
WARNING: Contains FMA, Naruto and One Piece spoilers.
The fullbring arc
Gucci Messiah
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It is hands down the worst arc, filler or otherwise, in Bleach history. There are literally no redeeming qualities and the carnival of stupidity gets taken to a whole new level that nearly made me drop the show until they went back to canon. Somehow I managed to force myself to sit through that 21 episode season..honestly, I'd rather watch SAO. At least that made me laugh.
Watch season 9 and then get back to us. Fullbring is liked by a lot of people because it brings back the slice of life aspect back which pretty much went away after the soul society arc unless you count some of the one-off filler episodes. It's also genuinely funny and provides a nice contrast after watching Bleach take itself so seriously for so long.
Bleach does have tons of character bloat which adds to the issues with pacing and story-telling. I think Kubo could have done better with an editor telling him all this instead of just letting him go all willy nilly with characters that "sound cool". The bad thing is a lot of the characters sound pretty awesome on paper, you just don't have enough of it to cover all of them.
Maybe if Kubo was a better writer things would have played out a bit differently, but character creep really killed a lot of the momentum the series had. Hopefully he learns from this in the next series he does and keeps the story a bit tighter with a small cast.
Makes sense based on the premise of piracy during the 17th and 18th centuries.
There definitely was a lot of stretching around that concept of
Maybe if Kubo was a better writer things would have played out a bit differently, but character creep really killed a lot of the momentum the series had. Hopefully he learns from this in the next series he does and keeps the story a bit tighter with a small cast.
Makes sense based on the premise of piracy during the 17th and 18th centuries.
There definitely was a lot of stretching around that concept of
cloning.
Gucci Messiah
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I can't wait for Blood War to be animated and come to toonami so people can rage at the names. If you think things are bad now, just wait.
I almost wanted to post a Nichijou deadpan reaction, but I wanna learn WHY they think that. Not even my nostalgia of the fact that's how I discovered the show & enjoyed it as a kid can save the fact the 4Kids dub was just terrible/not aged well at all.
Gucci Messiah
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Has anybody else watched Accel World? I've been marathoning the series since yesterday and have some rage to vent. Or if there's a thread somebody could point me to that would be great.
You're right, it's not realistic to expect a person to jump in so late and understand the world's terminology of any series. However, I think what makes Bleach particularly hard is that all of the technobabble is in Japanese, even in the English dub. If the characters said things like, "Ultimate attack: Wind of Death!" instead of "Zanpakutō, Kazeshini!" it would be easier to follow.
It was awful back then and worse now. Zolo's VA and the awesome pirate rap are the only two good things about it.
It's not like 4kids couldn't put on a good dub either, they just completely fucked this one up and that's setting aside the content edits they had to/decided to make.
Imperial Bishop
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I personally never was a fan of the slice of life portions in Bleach. But what makes it worse is
Ginjo was a pathetic villain, Xcution was mediocre, Chad and Orihime are still side-lined, and all the time spent on Ichigo training his Fullbring just to get his soul reaper powers back at the end was uggggghhhh....
UltraGunner
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It doesn't help that they don't bother to translate half the terms.
Anyone who's complaining about Techno Babble in Bleach though has clearly never played BlazBlue.
Gucci Messiah
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***Fullbring spoiler discussion follows***
I completely agree that the arc fell flat on its ass once you realized Ginjo was the villain. Xcution were enjoyable to me, they had some interesting powers and Riruka is such a terrible character that she ends up being awesome. I honestly don't care about Chad or Orihime and they've been sidelined since Soul Society so that was nothing new, Ichigo's training made sense considering he lost his shinigami powers in the Aizen battle. I mean, did you really expect him to not get his powers back? Fullbring did it in a cool way but the writing wasn't great which made the entire 'evil mastermind swerve' plot fall apart. Best part of the arc was the high school shenanigans that took place before Ginjo showed up.
Nananah Najahkoop! Was Kubo high when he wrote that?
Oh and don't forget "Candice Catnipp". That's what happens when Kubo watches porn while writing down ideas.
Oh and don't forget "Candice Catnipp". That's what happens when Kubo watches porn while writing down ideas.
I like that supers are called "Distortion Drives". Like what the hell does that even mean?
I like just about nothing else in BB though.
AdventureMike
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I've seen it from start to finish. Feel free to toss me a PM if you'd like to unload. I can imagine some of the things you'd like to say
UltraGunner
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The Sequel series to SAO right? I've been meaning to see if it's as bad as SAO.
AdventureMike
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It takes place in the same universe (further in the future) but isn't a sequel or otherwise related to SAO.
Is it written as poorly as SAO?
AdventureMike
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Not to get into another SAO hatefest, but to describe it:
I didn't mind SAO's writing. I thought Accel World's writing, plot and chain of events was pretty awful. I really did not like it at all. There were events, especially towards the end of the series, that just simply did not make any sense at all and would have been easily solved by anyone with half a shred of brain power or self-esteem.
A lot of people looked at SAO as the penultimate mary-sue, but I really think Accel World takes the cake in that regard. The entire series revolves around a morbidly obese kid with massive self esteem issues having essentially a gaming genius goddess throw herself at him for no reason whatsoever. No matter how he treats her or himself or is useless throughout the entire series, she still stands beside him in some loyalty slave fantasy.
Uh, massive spoilers in that link. Be forewarned you guys. It has a big One Piece spoiler in there as well.
Gucci Messiah
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I've seen it from start to finish. Feel free to toss me a PM if you'd like to unload. I can imagine some of the things you'd like to say
I'm on episode 21 right now so as soon as I finish the series I'll shoot you a PM!
It's written by the same guy and exists within the same universe as SAO, just further into the future.
It's better written but there's still gaping plot holes and the characters are 10 times more annoying
It probably end up like these.
I dunno why deathnote is there since that wasn't a problem with the dubbing as far as I could tell. It is cheesy in any context and the One Piece theme wasn't even dubbed.
Imperial Bishop
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Was 4kidz ever good?
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