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Tour de France 2016 |OT| Lead-out: EUROs / Autobus: Olympics
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No evidence of fan interference yet. Plenty of incidents in the past with cars, bikes and fans and I can't remember a result being changed
Juan Antonio Flecha on Eurosport recounting how he was run of the road by a car while in a breakaway. In that incident he did not receive a protected time as he eventually rolled in way behind the peleton
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jakonovski
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I can already see rabid fans kamikazeing their idol's main rival.
Hope that if nothing else they at least forgive that.
SkylineRKR
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He did break rules I think. He should've stayed. how hard and unfair that may be.
This is going to be interesting.
Shanks D Zoro
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I thought they were all together, either way I don't think the crash had anything to do with Quintana losing time.
His Majesty
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Paris-Roubaix 2004. Hoste attacked on the cobblestones and a flag got stuck in his wheel and he fell. Game over.
There are certainly precedents.
Tour 1999. First guy in the stage hit a supporter.
Shanks D Zoro
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I am gonna be fucking livid if Aru gets a time penalty and Froome doesn't for running up the hill.
Yeah, I was arguing he would have lost more time. The group ahead got caught in the crash, thus he only lost 7 seconds to them instead of more. Basically, it's a big mess.
Shanks D Zoro
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Yeah, I was arguing he would have lost more time. The group ahead got caught in the crash, thus he only lost 7 seconds to them instead of more. Basically, it's a big mess.
Ah ok, i get you now.
jakonovski
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Crowd chanting "Quintana!" after the pile up isn't exactly a good look.
His Majesty
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More recently Van Avermaet was on his way to win San Sebastian, got hit by a motor and Yates eventually won. Nothing was changed.
I don't know what should be done about this.
I don't know what should be done about this.
SkylineRKR
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They always want the top dog to lose, its normal.
Yeah, I was arguing he would have lost more time. The group ahead got caught in the crash, thus he only lost 7 seconds to them instead of more. Basically, it's a big mess.
I'm not sure it'll matter in terms of the full race no matter what they do here. Sky and Froome are clearly the strongest team. Froome should get a penalty for running the course without his bike, doesn't matter how you come off or the circumstances behind it you take your bike. It's a bike race.
His Majesty
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It's sad that stuff like this has to happen before such measures are taken but that's probably the one positive from this incident.
I don't like Froome or Sky, but he clearly unhitched Quintana. I don't even think this matters as this will probably just provide more motivation for Froome to unleash a 120rpm attack to take back yellow.
And man... just poor Richie Porte. Always something for this dude at Grand Tours. :lol
And man... just poor Richie Porte. Always something for this dude at Grand Tours. :lol
But not for a yellow jersey in a multi stage tour. There are examples of "accidents" but nothing on this scale.
jakonovski
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Well sure, but the circumstances made it a bit chilling.
Shanks D Zoro
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Well I am happy if that is the top 10.
A bit worried for Aru tomorrow, but I feel he can keep it together he can come good in the alps
A bit worried for Aru tomorrow, but I feel he can keep it together he can come good in the alps
TarpitCarnivore
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That's going to be really hard. It's so much road to cover and would require so many barriers.
30yearsofhurt
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So the running without the bike, is that a time penalty or a disqualification?
Dash_Riprock
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Keeping up with the Tour is just so boring now without Lance out-cheating everyone else...
On the other hand, I find it sad that it has to happen. It just doesn't feel as epic. Some of the most epic moments in this sport involved people driving in a mass of spectators. it is just getting worse every time.
It is really only necessary on the mountain stages, and it has been done in the past on some.
Joelstinton14
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Surprised this hasn't to such a degree up the big mountains before. Crowds can get proper mental.
I know there have been the odd rider pushed off his bike. Be really interesting to see what happens, i have to say imo, this is different being in the big mountains, and i think could lend a dangerous precedent for fans to interfere.
I know there have been the odd rider pushed off his bike. Be really interesting to see what happens, i have to say imo, this is different being in the big mountains, and i think could lend a dangerous precedent for fans to interfere.
SkylineRKR
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I loved the dark days of the Tour. You won't see actions like Landis to Morzine anymore, or Mayo on the Ventoux.
They were all cheats, sure. But it was exciting to watch.
30yearsofhurt
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Chris Froome claiming his bike was stolen despite footage showing him dropping it.
Joelstinton14
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Guy has no luck. I think if he was ever to win the tour ( i think he is capable in a Evans way - a tour will just fall into place for him) it would be a really popular one.
i_am_ben
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Please. Chris Froome is on so many drugs he ran up that hill faster than Usain Bolt.
TarpitCarnivore
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Welp, Porte slammed into a motor bike. I wonder why this damn bike stopped in the first place
OOF, re-watching this it looks like Porte slammed his chin into the broadcast equipment
https://streamable.com/g3su
OOF, re-watching this it looks like Porte slammed his chin into the broadcast equipment
https://streamable.com/g3su
jakonovski
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He pretty clearly panicked. Probably couldn't dislodge his bike and thought a fan was holding on to it, or a fan was actually holding on to it, even if just to help him.
30yearsofhurt
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Nope, he just put it down and scooted off. The video is pretty clear.
Joelstinton14
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Haven't seen that, but apparently his mechanic is saying they don;t know where his old bike is post accident.
You can't have a two tier rule book. Does anyone have any examples of any rider at any race getting a protected time due to an incident that did not occur in the last 3km?
There was someone falling on the road.
It was probably stolen after he left it. He did basically dump a really expensive bike in the middle of the road.
i_am_ben
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Did he mean someone stole it after he put it down?
The bike was probably stolen when Froome dumped it and ran up the mountain. I don't know how Sky can complain about a missing bike when the only reason it is gone is because Froome was cheating.
jakonovski
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Post me a link if you at some point find one, on Eurosport the only thing I saw was Froome's bike lying next to the crowd with him running off like 10m further up the climb.
TarpitCarnivore
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I know people are saying fans are the problem, but there is also too many damn motorbikes out there. There was the lead, the support and another in that pile up.
TarpitCarnivore
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Joelstinton14
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He did place it down; i think i misread the OP intentions, i thought he was saying Chris said he had to run because someone stole his bike.
to be fair, froome was in the midst of climbing the final km of a fairly steep mountain. adrenaline and fatigue can cause some serious disorientation
there is a good chance he did think his bike was stolen as well as a chance that he thought he was even riding or at the very least running with his bike
there is a good chance he did think his bike was stolen as well as a chance that he thought he was even riding or at the very least running with his bike
Problem is that the ruling isn't that clear. That's also explains why we haven't heard anything from ASO yet.
jakonovski
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What an utterly weird thing to do.
Dash_Riprock
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I love how there still isn't a "real" winner for Lance's Tours because EVERYONE in the top 10 spots was doping in some way.
Apart from the motorbike that does the TV shots, what are all these other bikes doing? That streamable clip shows like 3 bikes trying to plow through the tiny gap in the crowd.
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