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Trails of Cold Steel (Sen no Kiseki) coming to PS3, Vita in North America, Fall 2015
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Falcom already said that they are very aware of Steam in recent interview with there CEO http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1042423
The problem with Sen 1 and 2 is that they have no PC version for it and Xseed does not have the manpower for a pc port as tom said in there forums.
We will see what the future brings either they develop there games with a pc port in mind or they look for new patner in the west who can do the port for them.
You bet I complain ^_^
This will be my last post here because really I don't want to play the overused role of the angry fanboy. I wish everyone a wonderful time with these games. To me it feels just plain sad though. Like Snes era bad. Everybody rejoice, we are skipping three games, isn't that a wonderful news ?
Bah, no serious matter anyway. Again, I wish everybody the best with the games.
Quoting for new page. I think this about answers everyone's questions about the future of Kiseki in the west: why the seemingly quick turn-around on Sen 1, status about Ao/Zero, does the order you play the games really matter (in short: not really, Sen was developed w/ newbies in mind), etc.
They didn't say much on TitS:TC, but I assume it's dependant on SC sales and will definitely have to come out before Ao/Zero.
I'll be getting Cold Steel on PS3. Crossing fingers SC comes out much sooner though, because I really want to complete that one before Sen 1 hits.
cj_iwakura
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The turnaround is insane considering how long SC took.
Does CS have a big script too?
Pellegri Testament
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Skipping 3 games that can be gone back to at a later date (the blog even makes that largely known), to get 2 games released in the first place. Because lol if anyone truly thinks that we would see a ps3/vita release here in the West after the 3+ years it would take to get 3rd/Zero/Ao out the gate first.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Well, the localization blog definitely reassured me on a few levels, and it sounds like they're still at least considering Zero and Ao, which is good. I hope that we get a date for SC soon, but "before Cold Steel" at least works for right now. I hope that means before the end of summer. Man, the second half of this year could see a lot of massive Japanese games all releasing pretty close to one another. Yakuza 5, Trails in the Sky SC, Persona 5 (maybe?), Danganronpa Another Episode, Corpse Party: Blood Drive, Trails of Cold Steel, Xenoblade Chronicles X. Where are we going to find the time to play them all? So help us if Zero Escape 3 also winds up being a 2015 title.
It sounds like they're also giving this game a full dub, so XSEED is really pulling out all the stops with this one. I hope it pans out.
It sounds like they're also giving this game a full dub, so XSEED is really pulling out all the stops with this one. I hope it pans out.
Oh like I said in a previous post... actually I'm not sure I said it so...
I totally understand the why, and it's maybe the BEST decision that could be made. Doesn't really change my mood :-/
It's about or near TitS:FC in size, apparently. And Cold Steel 2 is (again, apparently) even smaller than its predecessor. So, not quite on the level of SC, hence the localization coming along quickly.
Dragoon En Regalia
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What's interesting to me is that Falcom (Kondo in particular) says they developed ToCS in mind for newbies, meaning that you can just as easily start here and visit TtZ/TtA later on without losing the intended experience. Intentions ≠ consequences, though, so I'm curious to know what series veterans will say about this statement,
Both of the Cold Steel games have scripts that are a little bigger than Trails FC, so yes, they're quite large.
The simple answer is this: we're learning how to be more efficient. We've been getting a better handle on what to do with the series every day. May not feel like that to fans (and that's understandable) since it's been many years with only one game in the series out, but we're finally figuring out how to best handle this massive series while a.) handling all our other titles, b.) still making it a smart business decision, c.) not dying at the same time. The ride gets smoother with every game, feels like (at this point, we're internally on numbers 2, "3," and "4").
I think once the games actually start rolling out, people who have been waiting for the games will start feeling the way we do in terms of us getting a better handle on it. I'm thrilled; I love the Trails series to death, so the better we can get with the series (so long as it's well supported) and its process, the happier I am.
Pellegri Testament
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Guess it's one of those things that if you know that you're missing out on plot points that were covered in previous games, then it makes things harder for you if you haven't played the previous games. Now if you're new to the series and have no idea about said missed points, then you likely won't know any better and will be fine just playing these games first. Makes sense that he would have that stance for the West considering most people only just got into the series with Sora FC and it's likely that most won't notice a lot of things that aren't explained in Sen.
cj_iwakura
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That's great to hear, and I'm glad it's successful for you all. You deserve it. (Do keep in mind it's not too late to try for a physical of SC, ask vireland.
)KuwabaraTheMan
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There was a domain registration back at the start of the year, and a retailer listing a couple of weeks ago, but this is the first time they've officially announced it.
I'm definitely happy to hear that you guys are getting more efficient with the series, and it sounds like we should be seeing the fruits of that pretty soon, with two games out in the next six months, and I'm glad that you remain committed to the series. It's definitely been a long four years here without any releases, but things seem to be picking up, and I'm glad for that. You guys are doing great work with this. Now just confirm for us that we can get some sort of awesome collector's edition of Cold Steel.
That's great to hear, and I'm glad it's successful for you all. You deserve it. (Do keep in mind it's not too late to try for a physical of SC, ask vireland.
You mean the PSP version? Wasn't that originally on 2 UMDs? I think it might be too late for that, yes.
SatelliteOfLove
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I certainly hope so and congratulations are in order!
Now to get my shilling game ready for SC's release...
BassForever
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This makes me very happy, I've bought FC about 6 times now on steam gifting it to various people when it's been on sale! So excited to see this series continue in the west
cj_iwakura
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UMDs are still being made. I bet that could make a funding goal in a fortnight.
I'm glad it's announced. Also glad to hear that XSEED has found ways to deal with the size of the games and was able to get Sen 1 turned around so quickly. I've been concerned that they're taking a bit much on at a time lately, but as long as everything turns out well, it's cool.
FC and SC were like that as well, right?
cj_iwakura
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Ten year lifecycle, baby.
Did you expect them to port it to PS4 specifically for NA release?
Dragoon En Regalia
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Thank you for the correspondence Hatsuu! I'm satisfied to hear XSEED's becoming more effective at localizing upcoming Trails installments. Hopefully SC will launch to raring success and prompt localizations of 3rd, TtZ, and TtA within good time. This has reminded me I still have two copies of TitS FC in my Steam inventory I need to gift...
My hope is that anything which might provoke a series newbie's interest, either because it seems out-of-place or mysterious, gets them interested in TtZ/TtA. This would apply to me as well, but I don't know if I'm getting these platforms sooner or later than localizations of the above.
Thing is, both Zero and Ao could have been split up the way Sora no Kiseki and Sen no Kiseki are (discounting 3rd). The former two games are that big just standalone, lol. We gotta really demand and raise interest for them given the opportunity costs.
The12thGripper
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I hope they're getting physical releases...
They are.
Shouta
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Not quite. While FC and SC are one whole story, there's a pretty clear climax in FC that the game ends with. It's a full tale itself that leads into another proper Tale. Sen I ends on a real cliffhanger and then actually completes with Sen II. Sen I wouldn't stand as its own game without Sen II where FC could, IMO.
Byronic Hero
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X seed, I love you, but didn't you learn last time not to announce too many "Trails" games at once xD
KuwabaraTheMan
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You call that a lifecycle? PSP is in Year 12 and still getting games. (And maybe we can get The Third next year?)
They are already done translating the first one.
A boy can dream!
SatelliteOfLove
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My final PS3 purchases, it seems.
Given the state of the PS3 and its sales...some people probably DO think that. =P
BassForever
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Didn't they essentially do this for Godzilla and J Stars?
The company that is releasing a PSP game in a few months?
BassForever
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To be fair said PSP game is compatible with the new handheld where as a PS3 digital only release isn't playable on PS4 currently.
cj_iwakura
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I wouldn't be so quick to say that. There's still a lot on the horizon. Y5 and P5 for me, for sure. (Keep in mind I have no PS4 and am in no hurry to get one.)
KuwabaraTheMan
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Yeah, there's this, Yakuza 5, and Persona 5 just this year, and Cold Steel II probably coming next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few more games on top of those.
Shouta
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I really wish they made PS3 compatible with PS4 for the long term. ;_;
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The Sen games can easily be played and understood on their own. XSEED is obviously going to do the "No previous knowledge required! Just jump in!"- marketing, which is understandable, Falcom does the same thing in Japan.
Skipping three games worth of world-building and story threads is a harsh compromise though, can't spin that. Osborne is basically going to be a newly introduced character for western players lol. Many events in Sen 1+2 won't mean anything to someone who didn't play the Crossbell games. The gaiden chapter in Sen 2 is going to be a random episode that makes no sense. The connection to previous games is the most interesting part of the Sen story to me, it's pretty much the Crossbell B-side and not exactly very strong on its own. Missing out on that is rather unfortunate.
Skipping three games worth of world-building and story threads is a harsh compromise though, can't spin that. Osborne is basically going to be a newly introduced character for western players lol. Many events in Sen 1+2 won't mean anything to someone who didn't play the Crossbell games. The gaiden chapter in Sen 2 is going to be a random episode that makes no sense. The connection to previous games is the most interesting part of the Sen story to me, it's pretty much the Crossbell B-side and not exactly very strong on its own. Missing out on that is rather unfortunate.
装甲悪鬼村正;166618051 said:
Nah, Osborne has his parts in SC. Though this is another case where 3rd would be pretty handy too...
WIth that said, going by the localization blog, they're keeping Zero/Ao open for the future. If Falcom releases a Japanese version of the Chinese PC port of Ao, then they have a potential platform for both if need be in the future. I definitely agree with Kondo's viewpoint that you can do Sen/Sen2 -> Zero/Ao or Zero/Ao -> Sen/Sen2 and not be much worse off either way.
Shouta
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装甲悪鬼村正;166618051 said:
You need to look on the other side of it. These events will be entirely new and there will be mysteries for new players to look forward to when Zero and Ao do hit. There will be some interesting insights as well for folks that experience Cold Steel first.
Falcom was very deliberate in how they wrote Sen and it works extremely well when you look at it from a perspective that isn't waist deep into the Lore already.
Skipping those games is sad, but I look at how long Trails games have been coming out and not getting over here at all and think that this is a situation where we just need to grab what we can and hopefully XSEED can circle back at some point and put them out on something. Sometimes you can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
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This is a weird viewpoint though, because Sen concerns itself or rather reveals and spoils far more about Crossbell than the other way round. There are very few references to stuff happening in Erebonia in Zero/Ao, while Sen is constantly throwing events happening in Crossbell at the player, from the opening of Sen to the endgame of Sen 2. I mean, it's obvious, Sen came later so it has to be this way.
It actually does seem more realistic to ho0e for this gen relative to last. But it's still kind of ignorant to EXPECT that with a low profile JRPG. At best this is akin to Persona 3 and 4 on the PS2, with a strong niche but not a big enough one to justify going crossgen at that point like with P5.
装甲悪鬼村正;166619195 said:
I think you need to ask yourself how much of the stuff from Zero/Ao that comes up during the Sen games is explicitly said and how much of it you filled in yourself due your prior knowledge of the events. When I thought about that, I was actually surprised at how much they don't explicitly say, even in Sen 2.
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