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[Xando]

Periscope stream
https://www.periscope.tv/ltzgohawks/1rmGPrjqqYnxN

 

[Dopiestrombo]

Shooting in Zurich...
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/zurich-islamic-center-shooting/index.html

 

[superdeluxe]

Its Large Delivery Truck

Edit: I removed the reference to no roads near by, which was made by an eyewitness.

 

[Joni]

How would that make them a target? Especially since many refugees are actually sunni?.

ISIS doesn't work if Christians are nice to Muslims. They need the west to hate Muslims so the Muslims join them in their crusade.

 

[Ensirius]

Nothing on tagesschau.de so far so I wouldn't start speculating just yet.

CNN already reporting on it.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

How would that make them a target? Especially since many refugees are actually sunni?


To first order that's probably true, though I think they'd primarily target countries with which they have an issue with - otherwise they completely lose any semblance of message their attacks may have.

I don't know what you think their message is but they don't want people being welcoming and kind to muslims, they want conflict.

 

[gamma]

Its Large Delivery Truck with no roads near by, this isn't an accident.

There are certainly roads nearby, stop spreading false info.

 

[Tugatrix]

Guys you should read the text first, for now it's just an accident

 

[LUFTRAUSER]

That's not true at all, in fact many people who probably shouldn't drive still do it because there's nothing anyone can do unless they get into an accident.

Uhm what? That's not true at all.

This is 100% false.

Not true at all.

EDIT: Beaten one million times.

I need to go yell at the person who told me that then.

 

[superdeluxe]

Periscope stream
https://www.periscope.tv/ltzgohawks/1rmGPrjqqYnxN

That thing is a semi truck.

 

[Rektash]

CNN already reporting on it.

Yeah, it's on tagesschau.de as well at this point.

 

[Jezbollah]

Sky News confirming one fatality.

 

[SilentRob]

Its Large Delivery Truck with no roads near by, this isn't an accident.

How do you think the material for the christmas market was devlivered there? By Foot? You can literally see the street right next to the market. It's Berlin. There is always a road nearby.

Please calm down and stop spreading half-truths, paranoia and fear-mongering. There are several people dying in vehicle accidents every week in Berlin. Wait for the news.

 

[chadskin]

Considering there are no reports of gunfire or anything of the sort, like what happened in Nice, I'm leaning more towards horrible accident than terror attack.

 

[Boem]

Its Large Delivery Truck with no roads near by, this isn't an accident.

You can clearly see the road on that periscope stream.

For now it's an accident. Let's not spread needless panic before more is known, there are many German people on Gaf.

 

[Betty]

Considering there are no reports of gunfire or anything of the sort, like what happened in Nice, I'm leaning more towards horrible accident than terror attack.

France was on high alert at the time and the Truck in that case was acting weird long before it started to go fast.

In this case the police just may not have had enough time to react.

But it's too early to label this as whatever yet.

 

[Oersted]

Nothing on tagesschau.de so far so I wouldn't start speculating just yet.

Its on the spiegel.de frontpage. Give it some minutes

Edit:

Was already too late

 

[Kurtofan]

Considering there are no reports of gunfire or anything of the sort, like what happened in Nice, I'm leaning more towards horrible accident than terror attack.

Why do you think a gun is needed for a car attack? It wasn't the first one and the majority don't involve firearms (since the whole point is that anyone can use a car as a weapon compared to firearms).

 

[GlamFM]

According to information from the "WELT", there have been indications for a possible attack on a Christmas market in Berlin for several days.

 

[Kacho]

The situation seems to be under control. Judging by the livestream it looks an accident.

 

[Fritz]

There are absolutely roads around this market.

 

[Dynedom]

These comments on the Periscope stream, wtf.

 

[mnz]

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gese...t-in-weihnachtsmarkt-ein-toter-a-1126639.html

"Polizei spricht von Anschlag" - "police calls it an attack" So not an accident.

edit: In the article itself it now says they assume it was an attack.

 

[kadotsu]

According to information from the "WELT", there have been indications for a possible attack on a Christmas market in Berlin for several days.

Has there once been a time since 2001 when there weren't indications for an attack on public places in a capital.

 

[Tugatrix]

really starting to look like an accident

 

[Dinda]

How do you think the material for the christmas market was devlivered there? By Foot? You can literally see the street right next to the market. It's Berlin. There is always a road nearby.

Please calm down and stop spreading half-truths, paranoia and fear-mongering. There are several people dying in vehicle accidents every week in Berlin. Wait for the news.

Considering there are no reports of gunfire or anything of the sort, like what happened in Nice, I'm leaning more towards horrible accident than terror attack.

Spiegel saying the police is believing it was an attack.

 

[GlamFM]

Has there once been a time since 2001 when there weren't indications for an attack on public places in a capital.

We don´t know.

 

[Dynedom]

No updates on the driver?

 

[Mimosa97]

THis is a well known modus operandi of ISIS terrorists. Also what are the chances that an accident would happen by coincidence in a christmas market which are targets of choice for terrorists ?

Huge probability that this was a terrorist attack. Hope the death tally won't go higher than one. Stay safe GermanyGaf.

 

[vsMIC]

police stated to suspect no accident but attack according to focus.de and spiegel.de

fuck 2016 !

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Its Large Delivery Truck with no roads near by, this isn't an accident.

There's a road right next to it.

Several German sources say that police thinks it was an attack.

 

[Neo C.]

Why would Germany even be targeted ? What's the beef between fundamentalist Islam (if that is what it is) and Germany ?

Terrorists can easily change Germany's political direction with terror attack.

 

[KonradLaw]

Why would Germany even be targeted ? What's the beef between fundamentalist Islam (if that is what it is) and Germany ?

It's full of infidels. That's enough.

 

[hEist]

really starting to look like an accident

yeah most likely.

map of the scene and marked the position of the truck.

 

[superdeluxe]

There's a road right next to it.

Several German sources say that police thinks it was an attack.

Sorry guys, I have removed the reference to no roads. I went off what the eyewitness had reported in the OP.

 

[mnz]

Terrorists can easily change Germany's political direction with terror attack.

It's full of infidels. That's enough.

They have other reasons. Tornado jets do reconnaissance over Syria, Germany supports Kurds with military equipment and the country took in a lot of refugees.

 

[Tugatrix]

yeah most likely.

map of the scene and marked the position of the truck.

If he were to attack why stop at the edge of the market. Also seem like the truck was coming out of a turn, that he might have missed.

 

[Sarcastic Poster]

Impossible to stop attacks like these, assuming the police calling it an attack are correct. They're just going to become more frequent. No solution I can think of.

 

[Fritz]

THis is a well known modus operandi of ISIS terrorists. Also what are the chances that an accident would happen by coincidence in a christmas market which are targets of choice for terrorists ?

Huge probability that this was a terrorist attack. Hope the death tally won't go higher than one. Stay safe GermanyGaf.

BS, I bet an accident is like 1000 times more likely.

 

[GlamFM]

Police wouldn't call this an attack for no good reason. I would put that accident theory to rest tbh.

 

[akileese]

Police wouldn't call this an attack for no good reason. I would put that accident theory to rest tbh.

But they're not calling it an attack. They're ASSUMING it's an attack. Big difference there. An assumption and a confirmation are not the same thing.

 

[SilentRob]

Police wouldn't call this an attack for no good reason. I would put that accident theory to rest tbh.

And I would wait for confirmation, but I dunno, maybe that's just me.

 

[Tugatrix]

Police wouldn't call this an attack for no good reason. I would put that accident theory to rest tbh.

Have they really call it an attack? unfortunately media are no saints and they love this stuff, later they can always deny the source. Where is the polizie official stating that it's an attack?

 

[Jezbollah]

Police wouldn't call this an attack for no good reason. I would put that accident theory to rest tbh.

Police are not officially saying there was an attack or not. It's just a bunch of misinformation, usual for an incident like this. The golden rule applies: Wait for official confirmation from a spokesman.

 

[GlamFM]

But they're not calling it an attack. They're ASSUMING it's an attack. Big difference there. An assumption and a confirmation are not the same thing.

German Police wouldn't even publicly ASSUME it´s an attack for no good reason.

 

[Tagyhag]

Really hope it stays at 1 casualty. That's just horrible.

Wow that's awful. And why are people jumping to the conclusion that this was terrorism? It could very likely have been an accident.

Seriously, chill the fuck out GAF.

 

[TheCochese]

Plowing over pedestrians reminds me of Nice.

 

[MikeHattsu]

If he were to attack why stop at the edge of the market. Also seem like the truck was coming out of a turn, that he might have missed.

Think it came from the right side of that map based on the position it's in in that periscope video. Possibly he tried to change lanes and skidded out? Icy roads there?

 

[mnz]

Police are not officially saying there was an attack or not. It's just a bunch of misinformation, usual for an incident like this. The golden rule applies: Wait for official confirmation from a spokesman.

"Auf einen Weihnachtsmarkt in Berlin ist am Abend nach Polizeiangaben vermutlich ein Anschlag mit einem Lastwagen verübt worden. Das sagte ein Sprecher der Deutschen Presse-Agentur in Berlin."

I mean, you won't get anything more direct than this at this point in time.

 

[Kurtofan]

They have other reasons. Tornado jets do reconnaissance over Syria, Germany supports Kurds with military equipment and the country took in a lot of refugees.

lol if you think they care about shit like this. Terror attacks aim to recruit more people for the cause. Big publicity.