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Trump says he will 'most likely' not take part in Fox debate
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Funky Papa
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As if.
bengraven
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Yeah, that was a joke. ha
OuterLimits
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I agree. However, it may work this time because Fox decided to go on the attack. Kind of hard for them to claim they will host a fair debate after those statements. It seems they want to influence the race and not merely report on it.
Even the "pollster" Frank Luntz made a tweet saying "Megyn for President" . Makes sense now why his Fox focus groups never had Trump supporters. Lol.
hemo memo
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And we lose.
Fox fucked up. They gave him a great weapon with that statement, and now what Trump says about his treatment is at least plausible. He might be an ass, but anyone reading that statement can see it for themselves. They should've stuck to by-the-book treatment. Now they can running up-ring the bell.
I know it's unlikely, but I'd love for GOP voters to nominate someone whom the party's media apparatus can't fully get behind. They're already at a structural disadvantage for the general, so to see a lack of unity from their biggest messaging outlet would be fun, and potentially damaging.
I know it's unlikely, but I'd love for GOP voters to nominate someone whom the party's media apparatus can't fully get behind. They're already at a structural disadvantage for the general, so to see a lack of unity from their biggest messaging outlet would be fun, and potentially damaging.
Shit like this makes me look forward to November 5th this year when a bunch of articles all ask
"Why did Trump lose?" and all immediately say "oh that's right he routinely pissed off the biggest voting bloc in the country".
It'll serve him marvellously in the GOP primary though.
teruterubozu
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Official statement from Fox:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...te-in-fox-newsgoogle-debate.html?intcmp=hpbt2
LOL! This is gold.
Trump the Terrorist, straight from Fox News.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...te-in-fox-newsgoogle-debate.html?intcmp=hpbt2
LOL! This is gold.
Trump the Terrorist, straight from Fox News.
Spehornoob
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Did Fox just play the Terrorist card on Trump?
teruterubozu
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Trump left the room, call the cops!!
Spehornoob
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I thought they basically reserved that for liberals and minorities.
If playing the terrorist card doesn't work, they've got nothing left to fuck with Trump. That's their big play.
Rentahamster
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Nope. Nobody's gonna care about the debate, Trump's gonna make fun of them, and that's all anyone's gonna talk about because reasons.
teruterubozu
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I still think there'll be a last minute deal. Fox says he is still welcome. It's all part of The Negotiator campaign.
Interfectum
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I think it makes him look childish as hell. The Trump supporters will back him but independents will see this as yet another reason why he shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.
Interfectum
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Fox is far more damaging long term, so yeah Fox is worse. I just hope Megyn Kelly and the rest learn from this. They created this monster and they see how crazy and dumb his followers are (people they helped cultivate). Perhaps she dials back the fearmongering a bit going forward, especially if she really cares about women's rights.
lol who am I kidding...
For the last few elections, we've seen Fox News as the unofficial mouthpiece of the GOP candidate's campaign. I'd love to see what a Twitter-era campaign looks like when that mouthpiece is no longer fully on-board.
Dash_Riprock
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Should've known he had the dude-bro population locked down.
theignoramus
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You cant talk about being a tough guy and hard ass on the international stage then back out of a debate because a reporter you dont like is hosting it.
maabus1999
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This is a genius move by Trump:
1.) It makes him the center of media attention into Iowa.
2.) It makes Cruz the number 1 target at the debate for everyone else.
3.) In truth, Trump can only lose at this debate as he has nothing more to win after 6 previous debates putting him near 40% of the primary electorate.
3.) He is actually acting out the anti-establishment candidate, which will help cement his power base, if not grow it.
Anyone who thinks this is a bad move need to rethink who Trump is. This is authentic Trump and is why people are voting for this guy.
1.) It makes him the center of media attention into Iowa.
2.) It makes Cruz the number 1 target at the debate for everyone else.
3.) In truth, Trump can only lose at this debate as he has nothing more to win after 6 previous debates putting him near 40% of the primary electorate.
3.) He is actually acting out the anti-establishment candidate, which will help cement his power base, if not grow it.
Anyone who thinks this is a bad move need to rethink who Trump is. This is authentic Trump and is why people are voting for this guy.
theignoramus
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"Turner" and "Tate"....
He swore he was boycotting Fox News months ago. Backing down now shows equally that he isn't fit for the office if he can't even stand his ground against a media company. Kinda lose lose in this instance.
Calamari41
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The ability to threaten to walk away from the table and have people believe it is an absolute staple of real world negotiation. I'm not a Trump supporter by any means, but this criticism rings hollow with me. I mean, Hillary and Bernie wouldn't exactly sign onto a Sean Hannity moderated debate, would they? They wouldn't, and for the same reason Trump is refusing to go to the Megyn Kelly moderated debate.
gutter_trash
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Roger Ailes is close to George H.W. Bush
Fox is part of the Republican establishment. Ailes is salty that Bush's son Jeb! got pulverized by Trump
Fox is part of the Republican establishment. Ailes is salty that Bush's son Jeb! got pulverized by Trump
If these 18yo kids are voting for someone like Trump. I don't want to image who they'll be voting for when they are 60.
trump rally or fuckboy convention?
RPGCrazied
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Yeah, I loathe Fox News pretty much, but sorry to say I'm on Fox's side this time. If Trump can't handle being questioned by a Fox News reporter, how in the hell should he be trusted in the white house?
No, thanks.
Fox is making a shit-load of money either way. People love conflict reporting, they don't really care what the source is.
The election is the new highest-grossing reality show, if anything they're going to get more involved.
blackMamba1187
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Trump should talk over a live-stream of the debate on twitch/youtube.
Trump might just revolutionize the political landscape if this is a success. Angry people don't really want to watch rehearsed closing statements and empty rhetoric - something the debates are all about.
Disenfranchised voters want politicians who speak directly to he electorate, who host rallies and have a strong aura. This is what Trump is doing now. Career politicians like Clinton and Bush believe in the conventional wisdom that you need to go through the motions, have an intellectual debate about issues. You need to "fit in", "appear presidential" and so on.
Trump is throwing all this out the window, he wants to empower the mob; the kind of people that are not looking for pragmatic long term solutions. They want to crown a king.
It is extremely dangerous for obvious reasons but highly entertaining.
There is no way the moderators allow this debate to become the Trump show. I think the biggest loser in this will be Cruz because many have called this a 2 man race(only in Iowa Trump is way ahead everywhere else)all the other candidates will pile on Cruz. If they do make it the Trump show even without him there then that would help him imo.
He's done so many debates and based on polls, has won most of them. I can't think of a scenario where this hurts Trump.
I'm not seeing that at all. On the forums I've been to, even on Reddit, most seem to support Trump on this.
He's done so many debates and based on polls, has won most of them. I can't think of a scenario where this hurts Trump.
I'm not seeing that at all. On the forums I've been to, even on Reddit, most seem to support Trump on this.
gutter_trash
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the opposite with me.
This Liberal over here support's Trump's quest at sticking it to the rest of the Republican establishment and saving America from another neocon Bush-Rubio Presidency
Trump is doing America a favor
Hillary 2016!
boiled goose
good with gravy
He should host a townhall at the same time.
I thought his whole shtick revolves around how un-PC he is. So now he's politically correct?
This whole Fox/Trump thing is just so delightful.
I'm expecting a spectacle with endorsements and all kinds of crazy nonsense.
I want him to stream the Republican debate during his event and blast all the other candidates (+Megyn Kelly). The crowd would love that.
RPGCrazied
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Yeah, but you are playing with fire. If you want him to get the nomination, he could slip into the cracks and actually win. We have to want him not getting the nomination. Cruz would get slaughtered by the democrat nominee anyway.
boiled goose
good with gravy
That would be a great move. A livestream of him commenting on the debate.
Im no trump supporter, but fuck the establishment corporate media.
I would prefer Trump over Cruz as President, so im not one for playing games. I want the best Democrat and least bad Republican as the candidates. None of this gaming the system BS.
ISWThunder
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I'm actually on Trump's side here. Fuck Fox News and their bullshit. The only reason Trump is even remotely likable to me, is because he is fucking with the people I hate the most, bias new outlets and politicians in general.
Fox News abuses its power and position all the time. They are in complete control of every other GOP candidate. Now they are finally in the backseat and it's fun to watch them squirm.
Calamari41
41 > 38
I think the intent behind that tweet is pretty obvious... he's pulled it before. "I would never say that *person* is *something horrible*"
Sectorseven
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Iowa hasn't even mattered in the last two election cycles, why would it now?
If you think for one second, that this has anything to do with Megan,and her so called bias or whatever, I've got news for you. This is a straight up tactic, to further himself from the establishment, gaining support from citizens that feel the status quo needs to change... looks like it's working
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