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True story - I had some Trump-ite (with a Jeff Dunham avatar) even tell me on Twitter the other day that "Muslim isn't a religion - Islam is".
Just imagine for a second how smart he thought he sounded.
True story - I had some Trump-ite (with a Jeff Dunham avatar) even tell me on Twitter the other day that "Muslim isn't a religion - Islam is".
You can't blame people for painting Trump as a neofascist caricature (ultranationalist, hell-bent on blaming "the others", protectionist, protagonist of his own cult of personality, rife with corporatist conflicts) when he acts like one and surrounds himself with people with a history of making disgusting remarks in such a cavalier way.Here's what's much more likely to happen:
Trump is going to gut environmental regulations, explode the deficit and turn over control of social programs to states that are going to fuck them up. And no one will care, because the concentration camps didn't come. Because all of that stuff - actual, tangible stuff that will affect you and your loved ones - is boring, and pales in comparison to the V For Vendetta dictatorship everyone kept predicting. You're being so utterly cartoonish in your portrayal of what he can do that you're going to lose interest when it doesn't come to pass, and Trump "only" does the type of shit Reagan did.
To be fair, I suspect most of the gang assembling around Trump - most - wouldn't push for literal camps. (Bannon on the other hand, will be in his bunk.) The way in which this particular guy invoked internment as a historical precedent came more across like this:
"If we don't build literal camps, we're not doing the Bad Thing that set the precedent, so we can proceed to use the Bad Thing as a precedent without any sense of guilt."
So as long as they're not rounding people up and busing them to a gulag, they'd justify every possible thing right up to the edge of that and still feel they're being very restrained and responsible. I wouldn't be surprised of someone at the Trump Table would brightly suggest little decorative arm bands. I mean who would be offended by that? It's not like we're doing internment camps guys.
Never said that. We can do both.Because there wasn't enough to lambast him for despite planning to implement a new Operation Wetback?
So where pretty much at the point where Rudy Giuliani being appointed Attorney General would be very comforting.
I wonder how long it will take for Megyn Kelly to get tired of Fox news and leave with all the shit that's going on.
I wonder how long it will take for Megyn Kelly to get tired of Fox news and leave with all the shit that's going on.
So anything done in the US in the past, no matter how reprehensible and abhorrent, can be used as precedent to make similarly reprehensible and abhorrent things in the future?
What other "precedents" from the Good Old Times™ will they use to Make America Great Again™? Genocide? Ethnic cleansing? Slavery? Compulsory eugenics?
So anything done in the US in the past, no matter how reprehensible and abhorrent, can be used as precedent to make similarly reprehensible and abhorrent things in the future?
What other "precedents" from the Good Old Times will they use to Make America Great Again? Genocide? Ethnic cleansing? Slavery? Compulsory eugenics?
This is awful, but who is this guy relative to Trump? I mean, I don't know what a 'Trump surrogate' means, but does that imply he's an official representative of the Republicans or Trump himself?
This is awful, but who is this guy relative to Trump? I mean, I don't know what a 'Trump surrogate' means, but does that imply he's an official representative of the Republicans or Trump himself?
In a letter obtained by CNBC, IBM CEO Ginni Rometty personally congratulated the president-elect and stated, I know that you are committed to help Americas economy grow in ways that are good for all of its people. She then laid out six separate ways in which IBMs business could dovetail with Trumps national agenda including information services available to the most erratic, dangerous presidency in American history. Those services included a cognitive computing system for the Department of Veterans Affairs, artificial intelligence for infrastructure, and data analytics, data center consolidation, and the use of cloud technologies to cut government costs.
Carl Higbie. I gues hes a spokesman for the Great America PAC group. Just a random supporter spouting nonsense. Comments like these are just made to scare people.As far as I can tell he has no actual connection to Trump just that he is an author, a former navy seal, and supports Trump.
This Trump "surrogate" looks like the kind of man who'd commit crimes against humanity if he was given the chance.
Carl Higbie. I gues hes a spokesman for the Great America PAC group. Just a random supporter spouting nonsense. Comments like these are just made to scare people.
I think people are reading the word surrogate and immediately think it's someone close to Trump.
Time said:Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump told TIME that he does not know whether he would have supported or opposed the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.
“I would have had to be there at the time to tell you, to give you a proper answer,” he said during a recent interview in his office in New York City. “I certainly hate the concept of it. But I would have had to be there at the time to give you a proper answer.”
Trump added that he believes wartime sometimes requires difficult choices. “It’s a tough thing. It’s tough,” he said. “But you know war is tough. And winning is tough. We don’t win anymore. We don’t win wars anymore. We don’t win wars anymore. We’re not a strong country anymore. We’re just so off.”
Sorry if already posted.
Trump himself was on the fence in 2015
http://time.com/4140050/donald-trump-muslims-japanese-internment/
Not saying it's made up or not outside his mind. I read that article. He said he hates the concept of it. It's absolutely unacceptable that he feels he would "have to be there" as if he's actually considering carrying something like this out again. I don't think we'll ever know what he's truly thinking as he seems to flip back and forth at all times. I just refuse to give these asshole supporters the time of day.You say made up but this internment era tactics as an example for Trump's plans with Muslims have roots in the man himself:
Source
"I would have had to be there at the time." History isn't enough for Trump. The inhumanity isn't enough for him. If he feels inhumane tactics are necessary, us acting like it's so outside of his mind to plot is folly. The more this idea spreads from him to his surrogates and to his constituents, the more rational it can become as an actual tactic in their heads.
We're a domestic terrorist attack away from this happening during his Presidency.
Not saying it's made up or not outside his mind. I read that article. He said he hates the concept of it. It's absolutely unacceptable that he feels he would "have to be there" as if he's actually considering carrying something like this out again. I don't think we'll ever know what he's truly thinking as he seems to flip back and forth at all times. I just refuse to give these asshole supporters the time of day.
Well now wait a second. You're making it sound like this guy (a Trump "surrogate", whatever that is) is actually getting pushback from the right on this. Almost like there isn't majority support for putting Muslims in internment camps, and like there is case law making it illegal, and like any such proposal would meet with stern resistance at the state level from even Republican governors and legislatures.
But, no, because this dumb guy used this dumb comparison in an interview, that means Trump 100% wants all Muslims in internment camps (something he's never, ever proposed, or even hinted at) and 100% of Republicans will go along, because they are all literal devils.
Here's what's much more likely to happen:
Trump is going to gut environmental regulations, explode the deficit and turn over control of social programs to states that are going to fuck them up. And no one will care, because the concentration camps didn't come. Because all of that stuff - actual, tangible stuff that will affect you and your loved ones - is boring, and pales in comparison to the V For Vendetta dictatorship everyone kept predicting. You're being so utterly cartoonish in your portrayal of what he can do that you're going to lose interest when it doesn't come to pass, and Trump "only" does the type of shit Reagan did.
Anybody ever read the novel No No Boy? If not you should. Interesting read given the topic.
The idea of internment camps is shameful at best and horrifying and disgusting at worst. There was a point in this country when they started forcing Italians to register and carry special ID cards and actually put some in camps as well.
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me."
This isn't new.
People have just wanted an excuse to sign off on it, and here we are.
Speaking of crimes against humanity and no one learning a damn thing from history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
It'll be called something cute like the National Security Protection Act, much like the Patriot Act was. See that bill get put through, have Republicans vote for it 60-40 in favour, and it be picked up in several red states to actually happen.
This Trump "surrogate" looks like the kind of man who'd commit crimes against humanity if he was given the chance.