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Trumpcare (Obamacare repeal) may be law within days. This could be the final stand
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Just call up and tell him he's a cunt.
They're still about to pass a wildly unpopular bill. It's not as if they've been dealing with angry constituents for a few days... It's been months. Angry town hall meetings, protestors on the Hill...
Again, if any of this mattered it wouldn't even be being discussed. The fact that a bill with 16% approval is on the verge of being passed tells you all you have to know about the power of public opinion.
It's your own fault for being poor. Maybe Ivanka could hire you as a bodyguard?
What bothers me is that a few old men could be so evil.
Doubly your fault for being born into a poor family. You shoulda bought more money.
With all these savings, we can finally invest in more bootstraps.
Lightning_Roller
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Surprise surprise, he got banned for derailing a thread and is trying to hide behind GAF's moderation policy to avoid taking responsibility for his posts.
Homeboy talks a whole bunch of shit but when it comes time to produce receipts he runs and hides behind "You can't talk about moderation!".
#FOH
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What the fuck!?? That is the most pathetic, petty, childish, brain dead, idiotic reason to have a beef with someone on an internet forum. Idiotic dumbass.
Maiden Voyage
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My senator was in the group drafting the bill. And we are one of the reddest states....
jackissocool
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^^^^^^^^
Republicans are unlikely to lose senate seats in 2018 due to who is up for re-election so Mitch has no reason to care. The house republicans will get butchered if this passes, but not his problem I guess.
Blame Joe Lieberman. He was the 60th vote and refused to give it unless the public option was removed.
nintendoman58
Member
You can go on and on about how protesteting doesn't matter but the reality is that it's always better than the alternative, which is just laying down on the floor and doing nothing.
The protests WILL have an effect, no matter what these guys do. Public opinion absolutely does matter because it assures that there will be hell to pay one way or another depending on how they go about this.
Vital Tundra
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It's nuts people would just pass it just to finally get it through. What fucked government we have.
balladofwindfishes
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They could lose seats, it's just that the Democrats getting the majority would be tricky and would require a pretty significant wave to take someone like Cruz down.
Yes, Trump voters have shown time after time they do not care about anybody else. Hell, most of the times they don't even care about themselves (cue all those "I'd vote for him again" quotes).
Fuck every single Trump voter.
I'm talking about MASSIVE protests. Like the March for Women, Science, and those against Trump's muslim garbage. If this ranks as a top issue for voters then where is the enthusiasm that fueled protests of those sizes? It doesn't seem like liberal voters are making this as hard as possible for republicans to pass. Hell from my perspective at least, there has been more focus on democrat in-fighting in recent days.
RPGCrazied
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I got the double joy of having Ted Cruz and John Cornyn. They were in on creating this fucking monstrous bill.
jack_package_200
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*Reads thread*
Its kind of impressive to see Unknown Soldier hit hit a new low. I remember him implying that the only reason minorities in the south voted for Clinton instead of his messiah cuz of her relation to Bill Clinton.
Dude is an ass
Its just pathetic
Its kind of impressive to see Unknown Soldier hit hit a new low. I remember him implying that the only reason minorities in the south voted for Clinton instead of his messiah cuz of her relation to Bill Clinton.
Dude is an ass
Its just pathetic
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think we should do those things because they energize our people, but the GOP will not care. Did you see them literally having police handcuff and haul away disabled people from Congress yesterday? There's images of women in wheelchairs being detained
I may be wrong, but I believe this has to go back to the house for another vote from them since there were changes to their version.
GoldenEye 007
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House has already indicated they'd pass it as is from the Senate.
How About No
Member
Well I guess I better start working overtime and pad my savings a little faster, in case shit goes south for me...or for someone close.
It was never a Utopia.
No, Trumpcare will get the votes.
Most dystopias never were.
Doesn't look like it.
In that case, it's always been a dystopia.
Fancyarcher
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That takes time, and people just don't have the ability to do things like that, and again as has been mentioned already the GOP doesn't care.
Tal Shiar Agent
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They'll care when people break down the White House fence.
Lightning_Roller
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And drag every single crooked bastard politician out of there by their hair. Except trump, his combover doesn't count.
ShironRedshift
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Yeah, unfortunately. Should it pass the Senate (which is looking likely) anyone who says the House will stop it at that point is kidding themselves.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't believe they specifically said this. I think they said it'd skip committees and just go right to a vote. They didn't indicate they actually had the votes to pass it.
plagiarize
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And anyone who thinks Trump won't sign anything that hits his desk that could realistically be called an Obamacare repeal is also kidding themselves. If it passes the Senate, it's happening.
Psychoward
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There won't be riots over this. Not significant ones at least.
That's actually an interesting hypothetical. If there was a march numbering in the tens of thousands or more, and hundreds to thousands of people simultaneously began assaulting the White House fence, would they be willing to start firing on the crowd? Heck, I'd imagine some of the security might have just as much to lose from this garbage bill.
QuantumZebra
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Abstrusity
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It's only a matter of time.
"How many people have to die before you're satisfied?"
For these 301 congressmen, who willingly sentence millions to squalor, suffering, and death, it's incalculable. There is no end they deem 'enough,' not while there's power, and money, and power to get more, and money to grease the gears to grab more power.
I would say that, very soon, the answer from a not insignificant number of people will be "301."
"How many people have to die before you're satisfied?"
For these 301 congressmen, who willingly sentence millions to squalor, suffering, and death, it's incalculable. There is no end they deem 'enough,' not while there's power, and money, and power to get more, and money to grease the gears to grab more power.
I would say that, very soon, the answer from a not insignificant number of people will be "301."
There will not be riots over this. You're only setting yourself up for disappointment.
RPGCrazied
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And I'm sure they are all exempt to this bill which makes it even more horrendous.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Not with that attitude there won't.
The bill won't even take effect until after the next presidential election. Only the politically informed will be angry until then.
Pretty much. Republicans seem to be banking on them losing the presidency in 2020 so they can blame it on the Democrats to their base that they hope doesn't realize it was them.
Also fuck Mitch.
ShironRedshift
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That's not how that works. Obamacare didn't take effect in 2010, but Republicans sure got upset about it regardless and voted the D's out in droves. When the bill itself takes effect is wholly irrelevant, especially since the AARP will no doubt be going for these guys heads if it passes.
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