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[Talon]

Eh, Texans are an odd beast. They're far more zealous about environmentalism than any other group of people I've met, even Oregonians.

And, of course, this seems so contradictory considering, you know, the whole "oil" deal.

They love their public spaces, arboreums and recycling. It's like the one beacon of recycling across the entire south. I don't think I've seen a single public recycling bin in the state of Georgia.

 

[eBay Huckster]

It's not representative insofar as we are assuming that moderate republicans are at least part of the party. The original dude I called out failed to even recognize their existence and call literally every republican a tea party member. Which even as a Democrat myself I find silly.

well, i suppose that's a fair point

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Statesmanmike ‏@mikestatesman 1m
West: The vote on SB5 is void. The constitutionality will be challenged. We weren't in session. #txlege

United States Supreme Court, here we come.

This is going to look UGLY for the Republicans once the whole story comes out as this thing wends it's way towards it's inevitable Supreme Court challenge.

 

[kirblar]

it's "not representative" insofar as we're assuming moderate republicans are more than a sizable minority within the party if they haven't already switched to the democrats, given that that platform had to be approved by people representative of a majority within the GOP

There's a gigantic number of people who identify as "independent" (but who really aren't, because they vote GOP party line) due to the GOP's toxic image and social associations now.

 

[Dartastic]

Please give me a reason to be proud of this country. This kind of BS is shameful.

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. With all the shit that's happened over the past couple weeks (PRISM, today's 5-4 ruling, and now this) there is no fucking way I have ANY sense of pride in my country.

 

[Escape Goat]

So...how bout that Paula Deen?

 

[sangreal]

Do you think the entire Republican party and all of its representatives created that website?

Do you not know how the party platform is created? It's drafted and voted on by the elected delegates at the convention

 

[pigeon]

It's not representative insofar as we are assuming that moderate republicans are at least part of the party. The original dude I called out failed to even recognize their existence and call literally every republican a tea party member. Which even as a Democrat myself I find silly.

Lie down with dogs.

 

[Satch]

I question why I still live in this state.

well, aside from the republicans and the crazy weather, its nice here

 

[Devolution]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxP442T-aZ0

I just remembered this song.

 

[Talon]

United States Supreme Court, here we come.

This is going to look UGLY for the Republicans once the whole story comes out as this thing wends it's way towards it's inevitable Supreme Court challenge.

You mean the Texas Supreme Court, holmes.

 

[Aaron]

So you are saying the GOP is a pack of small rodents?

Not at all. There's far more of them than just a small pack.

 

[B-Dubs]

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. With all the shit that's happened over the past couple weeks (PRISM, today's 5-4 ruling, and now this) there is no fucking way I have ANY sense of pride in my country.

There's always the Gay Marriage ruling tomorrow? I don't hold out a lot of hope though.

 

[eBay Huckster]

There's a gigantic number of people who identify as "independent" (but who really aren't, because they vote GOP party line) due to the GOP's toxic image and social associations now.

aren't there about as many "dem-leaner" independents now on the national level, though?

(maybe not in texas but that's a whole different animal for probably the next 11-odd years)

 

[Enron]

Eh, Texans are an odd beast. They're far more zealous about environmentalism than any other group of people I've met, even Oregonians.

And, of course, this seems so contradictory considering, you know, the whole "oil" deal.

They love their public spaces, arboreums and recycling. It's like the one beacon of recycling across the entire south. I don't think I've seen a single public recycling bin in the state of Georgia.

Don't Mess With Texas!

 

[Forever]

It's not representative insofar as we are assuming that moderate republicans are at least part of the party.

You thought the Republican Party Platform was just some website. I don't think your opinion on this subject carries much weight. Your vision of a meaningful moderate faction within the GOP is not borne out by the facts. There is no evidence for it. You want it to exist but it simply doesn't.

 

[LiK]

The Texas GOP are scumbags

 

[cashman]

Eh, Texans are an odd beast. They're far more zealous about environmentalism than any other group of people I've met, even Oregonians.

And, of course, this seems so contradictory considering, you know, the whole "oil" deal.

They love their public spaces, arboreums and recycling. It's like the one beacon of recycling across the entire south. I don't think I've seen a single public recycling bin in the state of Georgia.

Really? I didn't know recycling was so huge in Texas comparitively speaking.

 

[Toa TAK]

So...how bout that Paula Deen?

This tips the Jenga tower for me.

 

[speculawyer]

The West fertilizer explosion also did him no favors. A big part of his platform is deregulation.

Yes, he is very consistent on deregulation. In fact this bill just deregula . . . hey wait a minute!

 

[HK-47]

Not at all. There's far more of them than just a small pack.

The small was in reference to the size of the rodent, not the pack itself

=P

 

[encephalon]

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha. With all the shit that's happened over the past couple weeks (PRISM, today's 5-4 ruling, and now this) there is no fucking way I have ANY sense of pride in my country.

Weeks? Try years.

 

[AniHawk]

Don't Mess With Texas!

oohhhhhh so that's what it means. i always thought it meant i couldn't push them around. now i know better.

 

[Plaguefox]

Weeks? Try years.

Over a decade?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

You mean the Texas Supreme Court, holmes.

After the challenge is likely overturned by the Texas Supreme Court, won't they immediately turn around and run for the US Supreme Court?

 

[chubigans]

The AP is running the story that the bill passed:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/texas-senator-filibusters-against-abortion-bill

 

[Black Mamba]

ChrisTomlinson ‏@cltomlinson 2m
For what its worth, official computer records the vote on 6/25/2013. That may end up deciding constitutionality #txlege #sb5

 

[kirblar]

aren't there about as many "dem-leaner" independents now on the national level, though?

(maybe not in texas but that's a whole different animal for probably the next 11-odd years)

Nope. Dems have stayed steady/gained a little bit. The swell in "independents" over the past decade has come entirely at the expense of the GOP.

 

[Escape Goat]

This tips the Jenga tower for me.

 

[SummitAve]

You thought the Republican Party Platform was just some website. I don't think your opinion on this subject carries much weight.

So to be a Democrat I have to be on board and associated with everything stated on their website?

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Bill is considered passed pending any court challenges

RT @Rosscott: AP and CBS calling it passed. Twitter is calling it bullshit.

 

[mre]

You mean the Texas Supreme Court, holmes.

Fuck it, we're taking this shit to the Hague.

 

[ClassyPenguin]

It's not representative insofar as we are assuming that moderate republicans are at least part of the party. The original dude I called out failed to even recognize their existence and call literally every republican a tea party member. Which even as a Democrat myself I find silly.

They are ignoring moderates and focusing on the attention of the tea party. For example look at the CPAC speakers.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/28958/cpac-2013-list-of-speakers-proves-gop-conference-is-stuck-in-the-past

 

[Talon]

Really? I didn't know recycling was so huge in Texas comparitively speaking.

Neither did I! We were doing client work in Houston for an unnamed oil company, and these older folks (everyone in that office was 60 or older) were all about recycling.

I was surprised.

 

[Forever]

So as a Democrat I have to be on board and associated with everything stated on their website?

And you continue to act as if the Party Platform is a website. I suggest you actually learn what it is before you continue to embarrass yourself.

 

[Angelus Errare]

So...how bout that Paula Deen?

She's busy watching Parks and Segregation.

 

[Cartman86]

From my memory of watching it live. Two minutes after midnight a bunch (all?) senators went up to the front of the room and were crowded together. Raising their hands while the role call lady was saying names. What does that mean? Was that a vote or something else?

 

[sangreal]

Republicans cited rules to eventually force a vote to end the filibuster.

bullshit. they ignored rules and never voted to end the filibuster. AP is trash, as always

 

[Enron]

oohhhhhh so that's what it means. i always thought it meant i couldn't push them around. now i know better.

"Don't Mess With Texas" started as the state's anti-littering campaign. Most people around the country think its just some bullshit arrogant texans like wearing on a tshirt.

 

[JABEE]

They need a light and a buzzer like in the NBA.

 

[smokeandmirrors]

She's busy watching Parks and Segregation.

boom

 

[jaxword]

Looks like they won after all.

 

[antonz]

If I had to guess I would imagine the computer cares when the vote started not when it finished.

 

[encephalon]

Over a decade?

I'm not old enough to clearly remember the Clinton years (aside from Monica), but yeah it seems like it.

 

[Aaron]

The small was in reference to the size of the rodent, not the pack itself

=P

Then much like the Republican party, you need to work on clarifying your message.

 

[speculawyer]

12:27 a.m. BY BECCA AARONSON
When the clock struck midnight, Republican senators were gathered around the dais attempting to vote on Senate Bill 5. It's still unclear whether they were successful.

The protesters seated in the gallery erupted roughly 10 minutes before midnight, and screamed so loudly that the floor proceedings couldn't be heard.

State Sen. Dan Patrick, R-Houston, told the press, "we started voting before midnight," and therefore, it counted. But state Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas, said, "the session is over with...it's over with at midnight," and so, the vote didn't count.

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/06/24/dems-approach-abortion-victory-special-session-wan/#liveblog

 

[Devolution]

They need a light and a buzzer like in the NBA.

Next time we need some sportscasters on the shit.

 

[stktt]

bullshit. they ignored rules and never voted to end the filibuster. AP is trash, as always

It's a shame we don't have a record of this entire session.

 

[Talon]

oohhhhhh so that's what it means. i always thought it meant i couldn't push them around. now i know better.

Yeah, I didn't realize that until last summer when I was in Austin with all the littering and "pick up your trash" signs around.

Oh, Mitt. You delightful goober.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

From AP:

AP story also says: "Reporters and Democrats saw the voting begin after midnight, but Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst said it began just before."