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Ubisoft has disbanded the team behind Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. Game did not reach expectations and sequel was refused.
Astray
Member
That shit is likely in development hell.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Why is this crazy? Nintendo told Ubisoft the same thing about Mario+Rabbids and they were right.
touchfuzzy
Member
It’s under $20 on Amazon right now
LectureMaster
Gold Member
Fucking Christ, it is the only great Ubi were able to make in recent years. And it's a fucking 40 dollars game, what's your insane expectations for revenue? Did you spend 400 million make the game?
Ubi is beyond salvation.
Ubi is beyond salvation.
AndrewRyan
Member
Game is still saddled with Denuvo and Ubi Connect - it never had a chance.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
True, $30 this gen is kinda like last gen's $20.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
This is why sales are important. People don't buy a product, you're not going to see more of that product.
People blaming marketing or management have no idea what they're talking about. They don't even know what they're blaming them for.
Something that people should start to understand with critical thinking is that you can do everything right and still not get the results you wanted.
The price of the game is largely based on the budget of the game and the level of ROI the company is looking to get back from a game. That ROI covers the general risk pool of your portfolio. When a game sells significantly less than your expectations, the sensible thing to do is remove it from the risk pool which narrows risk on other titles.
People blaming marketing or management have no idea what they're talking about. They don't even know what they're blaming them for.
Something that people should start to understand with critical thinking is that you can do everything right and still not get the results you wanted.
The price of the game is largely based on the budget of the game and the level of ROI the company is looking to get back from a game. That ROI covers the general risk pool of your portfolio. When a game sells significantly less than your expectations, the sensible thing to do is remove it from the risk pool which narrows risk on other titles.
PeteBull
Member
Making games is very competetive market, when ur top priority isnt game's highest quality stuff happens, which is followed by other stuff, which in the end results in lay offs/studio clousure
Sleepwalker
Member
- Uninteresting main character
- bad trailer
- old as shit graphics
- high price point
No shit it failed. PoP fans have been waiting for a long time and first you show a trailer for the worst remake ever (pop sands of time) and then you release a new game, except its AA and you don't even play as the prince.
- bad trailer
- old as shit graphics
- high price point
No shit it failed. PoP fans have been waiting for a long time and first you show a trailer for the worst remake ever (pop sands of time) and then you release a new game, except its AA and you don't even play as the prince.
AREYOUOKAY?
Member
Rayman is basically dead anyways with his creator gone. They just further doomed themselves by flushing away more money due to bad character designs with this. It was a predictable but maybe avoidable outcome had they made it look more appealing and marketable.
“they're doing a 'Legend of Zelda' where the protagonist is going to save the person who's name is on the title.”
Well I guess that didn’t work out for them after all now did it?
Games of Today
Member
Far Cry 2, a literal masterpiece.
Hemingwayoffbase
Member
Shame. This game is very good.
It’s ruined by the terrible Fortnite art style. It gives an awful first impression that makes it look like a mobile game.
It’s ruined by the terrible Fortnite art style. It gives an awful first impression that makes it look like a mobile game.
Unknown Soldier
Member
This game was a prototype for the mentality of AssCreed Shadows. Maybe if a Prince of Persia game actually starred a Persian instead of an American Zoomer, it would not have had such a negative reception which depressed sales
diffusionx
Gold Member
I wonder what their expectations were, it was a $50 game in a genre people are conditioned to pay $20, $30 for max. Not to say it wasn't worth the price, it was great, but I don't know what they eexpected. Also playing as the Black Panther guy was weird.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That game was decent, and could have been more of a success if Ubisoft upper management didn't fuck it up. It's a shame how the devs have to pay the price for their bosses' mistakes.
Really seems like Ubisoft has some serious management problems. Their dev teams are clearly competent, but without seeing the sales numbers, it seems like the industry has a nasty problem across the board of setting outlandish sale projections, and then treating their games as failures when they don't meet those ridiculous numbers.
At the very least, it doesn't sound like anyone necessarily lost their job, but they've merely been allocated to other teams.
I can't help but wonder, for all the devs who are clearly passionate about making games, what's really stopping them from banding together and just saying "actually, fuck you, we ARE going to make the games we want to make"?
At the very least, it doesn't sound like anyone necessarily lost their job, but they've merely been allocated to other teams.
I can't help but wonder, for all the devs who are clearly passionate about making games, what's really stopping them from banding together and just saying "actually, fuck you, we ARE going to make the games we want to make"?
Efren is G.O.A.T.
Member
Game is awesome though and it looks just fine.
Black_Mamba
Member
The game looks fun and I might still give it a try, but I hate the art style, not to mention the afro-prince created for the sake of their political agenda.
BlackTron
Gold Member
Hey someone has to take all the blame so the people who screwed up can go on to the the same thing to someone else over and over.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Lost Crown's graphics were actually amazing though.
Sad times. Definitely launched too expensive - I waited for it to be £24.99 then got it. Really awesome metroidvania with some of the best feeling platforming out there. Picked up the dlc too the other day! Also I really appreciate that I could play it on switch which I borrowed from a friend then I chose to switch to Xbox so I uploaded my save to the Ubisoft cloud thing then downloaded it on the Xbox and it worked flawlessly. More games need to allow this.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
What a fucking shame, it is an amazing game. One of the best 2D Metroid-vania's in a long time.
//DEVIL//
Member
Good game with very low sales because of the company’s stance and their push to go woke full force in all their games. Leading to shitty sales of a game that doesn’t deserve this low number.
Not to mention they charging full price for this kind of game which shouldn’t be more than 40$ ?
Where to start really ? Shitty company is a shitty company.
Bonfires Down
Member
Visually it’s just not appealing. The Fortnite style characters puts up warning flags, but even in gameplay games like Trine, Inside or Little Nightmares blow this thing away visually.
Then again Metroid Dread also looks mediocre and that sold just fine so I dunno.
Then again Metroid Dread also looks mediocre and that sold just fine so I dunno.
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Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
Great game, Ubisoft are idiots. Burn you fucks.
Woopah
Member
I don't remember there being any LGBT+ characters or "woke" things in the game, so don't see that having a major impact.
Dr. Wilkinson
Gold Member
I tried to buy the game when it came out but discovered after thinking I must be missing something that it wasn’t available on Steam. At that point I threw my hands up in the air, and was like “alright well clearly they don’t want my money”, figured I’d get it some day. I think several months later it eventually went to Steam, but at the moment I have so many games it’ll be awhile before I get to it.
Oh well!
Oh well!
Dr. Wilkinson
Gold Member
Are you sure you’re in the right thread? Ubisoft is woke? Yikes, I’ve heard the opposite.
Darkness_Arises
Member
They did not get fired. They got put on games with better chances on the market. The sequel would have also flopped leading to another Tango situation. The management is doing their job and saving the devs from themselves.
Gambit2483
Member
Ubisoft's fate was sealed the moment they were no longer trend setters but instead trend chasers.
So much is wrong and broken inside this company I can't see them recovering from this.
So much is wrong and broken inside this company I can't see them recovering from this.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Even though I never played it but have seen this franchise throughout the years since childhood. I still feel bad for the ones that do like it. Just like Vision of Mana another game I didn't play but could tell it looked good. Both Vision of Mana and Prince of Persia didn't deserve to be flops the same way that Concord and Dustborn deserved it.
Majormaxxx
Member
Unfortunate news. Reminds me of how the wonderful Tomb Raider 2013 sold "only" 3 million copies and square Enix were not happy...
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
At least 15 years until the next PoP (assuming this shit company is still around).
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mayham2199
Member
Prince of Persia was actually one of my first games I ever played. And also the last one. I dont know...never really liked platform games.
Yea I had this on pc it was so hard.
Wonko_C
Member
Does this game somehow look worse than Nintendo's best selling Metroid game in the series? (Metroid Dread). Because that game is $60.
Darkness_Arises
Member
The studio is based in Canada, not in some third world country. Sq Ex lost money hand over fist on these Canadian studios. No shit they were not happy with just 3 million sales.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Was it not management who decided to not launch the game on Steam until August, and even then require a Ubisoft account to play the game?
Thabass
Member
I have a running theory that the game failed to live up to expectations because they released this way before they released the Sands of Time Remake/Master. I know its a game I wanted to go back and play and still do intend on playing it, but I was also told that Sands of Time was going to be coming soon and soon they pivoted to this. It's such a strange move.
Darkness_Arises
Member
No company can sell more than 5 million copies of shitty ass content starved 60$ games like Mario Party and Mario Tennis, but Nintendo did. No company on the market can follow Nintendo's pricing model. For the record, I did not buy Dread nor did I buy this game. I am not paying more than 10 pounds for 2D Metroidvanias as I am not a big fan of the genre. I already have the best ones like Deadcells, Hollow Knight and Ori in my library and I did not spend more than 10 pound for any of them.
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Last Hearth
Member
I think you're exactly right, they made a Prince of Persia game where the MC didn't look remotely Persian in appearance.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
And you think this can be tied to the game not performing to expectations?
What sales did they lose because of these things and what financial remuneration did they offset by doing them?
The reality is games like this don't sell well on Steam and certainly not at 50 dollars.
PeteBull
Member
They likely had overbudgeted it, games like that usually dont sell more than 200-300k copies, who knows what ubi expected it to sell, maybe 500k+ at full price?
With big budget like with all western studios, u can expect it had to end nasty
Example of AA game(50usd launch price) with proper budget is fairy recent Robocop:Rogue City, and guess what, straight from its wiki:
Darkness_Arises
Member
Most PCMR gamers harbor the delusion that Steam release will save games, while extolling the virtues of cheap key sites and deep sales as a major benefit over consoles. They will never accept the fact for some games Steam simultaneous release is of zero benefit.
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