Huw_Dawson
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Yup, that is about where I am too - it is easily the most likely outcome.
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UK General Election - 8th June 2017 |OT| - The Red Wedding
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Yup, that is about where I am too - it is easily the most likely outcome.
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Survation is Con 40% Lab 39%.
10 mins until the Bern.
10 mins until the Bern.
itsbenoclock
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Now up to 8 votes I know have been wasted because people haven't registered in time. How difficult is it to comprehend the importance of this election? Getting a bit hysterical at this point.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Wow.
CarlisleDavid1979
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Nice to see the polls moving in the right way. Doesn't mean a thing if people don't vote though.
Wowzers.
Mental. I was sure him stumbling with the not wanting to bomb people stuff was going to sink him
ferrasvansen
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When that women had a go at the fallout addicts, I knew that would show up in the after QT polls, was obvious they were being stupid.
Herr Schwarz
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The plebeians I've spoken to (same idiot scum that voted Brexit,aka my family and friends)
Are heavily leaning Labour.
I think that Labour is going to take an upset win here folks. For every action there's a reaction and this is partly due to people waking up from Brexit.
The other half is old fucks crying now that their pensions are getting fucked over.
"Oh by all means fuck over the young people, but we draw the line when it comes to our pensions lel"
I gottah say this boomer generation the ones that came after the heroes of world war 2. Are the biggest bunch of disgusting cunts I've ever witnessed and the sooner they fuck off to hell the better.
Are heavily leaning Labour.
I think that Labour is going to take an upset win here folks. For every action there's a reaction and this is partly due to people waking up from Brexit.
The other half is old fucks crying now that their pensions are getting fucked over.
"Oh by all means fuck over the young people, but we draw the line when it comes to our pensions lel"
I gottah say this boomer generation the ones that came after the heroes of world war 2. Are the biggest bunch of disgusting cunts I've ever witnessed and the sooner they fuck off to hell the better.
If there a clip of this anywhere?
Massingberd
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Fucking hell.
VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. Don't just tell some pollster you're going to, and then not, VOTE.
I'm going to be so proud to vote against those Tory fuckers on Thursday.
Wowzers.
"Wowzers" is about right.
If nothing else, this huge late swing should mean some Tories are bricking it. And scared Tories is a goal in and of itself.
SporeCrawler
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Wowzers.
thank god the nuclear debate didnt have a bad influence.. gives me hope that many people in the UK are actually sane
can may just cancel the election by act of parliament?
JonathanEx
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YouGov at 9:30 for their presumably 'oh fuck fuck FUCK' poll which overestimates youth turnout
TomWaitsForNoMan
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Parliament has been dissolved, it can't do anything
TomWaitsForNoMan
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Btw does anyone have that list that was posted earlier of polling companies ranked by how heavily they weight young and non-voters?
Ravensmash
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That lady said what everyone was thinking. Truly.
Wowzers.
The debate result is interesting. Theresa May did really badly on several questions with particular highlights her stance on nurses pay and her lack of sympathy with people with disabilities and mental health issues.
Many people have or know someone who has went through the fit to work assessments and felt they haven't been treated humanely. It particularly hurts when people feel attacked at their most vulnerable, recovering from illness or cancer. The damage can be seen in the suicide statistics which have ballooned as the government cut deeper into the social safety net.
While the Nuclear Nine has grabbed the attention on GAF and elsewhere the it seems like May's cold calculated lines did nothing to assure people things would get better. In fact it seems like May is trying to prepare us for even worse and there are a lot of people who can't take any more.
YouGov aren't exactly forecasting an unheralded youth turnout. It's basically 2010 numbers which might be 10% greater than 2015 but it's 10% less than the EU ref.
Miles Quaritch
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Wowzers.
Also spotted an article earlier about May's rating going negative for the first time...
As I said last night, that was a terrible look for May. She can't do empathy either in tone or really in content, so when she's faced with personal analogy she just comes across as a sociopath. Cameron at least sounded like he could give a fuck as he was fucking you over.
Miles Quaritch
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Noticed there lots of anger about the WCA today too. Seems most people (, myself included) didn't know just how pervasive and demeaning the questioning is...
itsbenoclock
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Like talking down to a toddler. Made my blood boil.
Ravensmash
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I can't deal with these polls.
Argg
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I posted this point last night but I think it needs re-iterated.
In England the pay review body recommended a 1% for nurses. The government rejected this raise and kept nurses pay flat.
How broke are we if we need a magic money tree to fulfil a 1% raise for workers in one of our most valued sectors?
ferrasvansen
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Bit older than survation one and before question time, will be interesting to see yougov which will be newer.
Well, at least they aren't herding.
Also, it was pretty incredible how spot on the French polls were, wonder what magic they used.
Massingberd
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Ugh. I think I hate hope. Devilish state of affairs.
everyone knows that, it is about by how much
Don't do this to yourself.
Yup
SlipperyFishes
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Versus the 11% pay raise for MPs. It's a fucking travesty.
Miles Quaritch
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This is ever so slightly unfair. She might feel empathy, but she's just not very good at outwardly expressing it.
That's usually the case with repressed people.
From this point forward every poll is right-wing propaganda designed to encourage Tory voters to get out on voting day, and persuade students that they don't need to worry about getting out of bed.
Not true, of course, but I think it's the safest mental avenue to go down until the exit polls.
Not true, of course, but I think it's the safest mental avenue to go down until the exit polls.
I don't think she's a sociopath, I think the disconnect she projects makes her come across as one.
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah, I agree with that.
Massingberd
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Can anyone post what the general consensus was with pollsters this time in 2015?
Labour was going to win
And_Gignac
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They failed during 2015. But most pollsters had deep revisions to their demos/methodologies after that. The Brexit vote, for instance, was accurately predicted to be as close as it was.
It was 50/50.
Worth noting that polling companies have taken a completely different approach to polling this time. It's not the same as last time.
Westminster voting intention:
CON: 45% (-)
LAB: 34% (+1)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
UKIP: 5% (-)
GRN: 3% (-)
(via @ICMResearch)
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871101049226055681
CON: 45% (-)
LAB: 34% (+1)
LDEM: 9% (+1)
UKIP: 5% (-)
GRN: 3% (-)
(via @ICMResearch)
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/871101049226055681
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