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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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Salazar

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Subliminal said:
If any of you vote conservative i'll hate you.

And Mola Ram Gordon will have your heart.

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Here's an interesting fact you might or might not know:

10of the 16 biggest economies are governed by a coalition

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How come everyone in the country has spent the past 10 years complaining about the mess that Labour has gotten us into yet they are still happy to vote for them again?
 

SmokyDave

Member
PumpkinPie said:
How come everyone in the country has spent the past 10 years complaining about the mess that Labour has gotten us into yet they are still happy to vote for them again?
Because Labour have a band of die-hard working class supporters that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents. The fact we're talking about a completely different party nowadays just flies over these peoples heads.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because I see so many unthinking, unflinching Labour supporters around my way.
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
SmokyDave said:
Because Labour have a band of die-hard working class supporters that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents. The fact we're talking about a completely different party nowadays just flies over these peoples heads.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because I see so many unthinking, unflinching Labour supporters around my way.

That and - god forbid - the MPs they vote for actually do a good job.
 
Chinner said:
ive got a bad feeling about this guys...

Same

I think there is so much media attention riding on this from The Sun, News of the World, Daily Express, Daily Mail, Times, (Telegraph I think), The Financial Times, The Economist, the free Evening Standard, that if the Tory's don't make it in it'll be a HUGE disaster

Oh my...

Seriously though, I think the Cameron X OBEY X Obama t shirt is horribly offensive that they could have taken an iconic design and used it for a fucking muppet. Obama's message of HOPE was and is so much different than that Eton tory cunt

Sorry :(..But as a black man seeing Obama take that stage when he was announced president made tears shed from my eye, ironically if it happens to Cameron, those same tears will be down my cheeks...

...albeit for another reason
 

SmokyDave

Member
industrian said:
That and - god forbid - the MPs they vote for actually do a good job.
I'm not ruling that possibility out at all but having spoken to the Labour canvassers last night and seeing which of my friends are voting Labour it doesn't seem that many feel they can vote anywhere other than Labour for fear of selling out their working class roots.

I bet you don't get many non-Labour votes in ex-mining villages, even to this day.
 

Parl

Member
SmokyDave said:
Because Labour have a band of die-hard working class supporters that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents. The fact we're talking about a completely different party nowadays just flies over these peoples heads.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because I see so many unthinking, unflinching Labour supporters around my way.
I ain't voting Labour, but they've done some great things in this country. There's some screw ups like Iraq, and too much centralisation, and a benefit system which has discouraged employment - all big things in my eyes, however, they've done lots of good stuff too. The media will always focus on the bad bits.
 

Chinner

Banned
SmokyDave said:
Because Labour have a band of die-hard working class supporters that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents. The fact we're talking about a completely different party nowadays just flies over these peoples heads.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because I see so many unthinking, unflinching Labour supporters around my way.
funny, thats what i thought of tory voters!
 

industrian

will gently cradle you as time slowly ticks away.
I just phoned my dad there and my faith in the Korean Postal Service has been restored. My council received my proxy vote application on time and my dad's about to vote on my behalf now.

Hopefully Michael Moore keeps his seat now thanks to me.

Parl said:
I ain't voting Labour, but they've done some great things in this country. There's some screw ups like Iraq, and too much centralisation, and a benefit system which has discouraged employment - all big things in my eyes, however, they've done lots of good stuff too. The media will always focus on the bad bits.

Like I always say, you never phone up a customer service phone number when everything works well.
 
SmokyDave said:
Because Labour have a band of die-hard working class supporters that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents. The fact we're talking about a completely different party nowadays just flies over these peoples heads.

Or maybe I'm just bitter because I see so many unthinking, unflinching Labour supporters around my way.

It's nowhere near that simple. Who else are the working class in this country going to vote for? The Liberals? No, of course they aren't, there going to vote for the party most interested in seeing the working class have a voice and that is still the Labour party.

Now of course, it doesn't then follow that Labour are living up to their ideals, they most certainly aren't. But the working class really just do not have a choice any more. Not one of the parties will be working for them, so they go with the lesser of two (or now three) evils, and that's Labour. It's not that they don't see the change, but they're helpless to do anything about it, except not vote which is why turnout will be lucky to stay much above 50% today.

Now maybe if we get some electoral reform, we can start some real debate again in this country, give the working class their voice back, but I remain sceptical. Our society seems corrupt at every level, our democracy has failed us in so many ways and I don't think a new voting system is going to change all of that overnight.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
freethought said:
It's nowhere near that simple. Who else are the working class in this country going to vote for? The Liberals? No, of course they aren't, there going to vote for the party most interested in seeing the working class have a voice and that is still the Labour party.

It's nowhere near that simple either. Labour doesn't have a monopoly over the working class, even though it likes to think so. There's plenty of working-class Tory voters.
 
Holy shit, I've never seen a polling station so busy! At first I thought it was maybe always this way in this constituency for the GE (I only moved to Tufnell Park 2 years ago) but then I heard the people working saying the same thing.

A large turnout is likely to benefit who? I hope to fuck it's the Lib dems.
 
phisheep said:
It's nowhere near that simple either. Labour doesn't have a monopoly over the working class, even though it likes to think so. There's plenty of working-class Tory voters.

true but I'd have to say that labour has the majority of the working class, especially outside of the South-east.
 

NekoFever

Member
Someone who I work with is saying that one of the women working in the polling station where he voted this morning is wearing a big blue rosette. Isn't that illegal?

I downloaded the rules for polling station staff from the Electoral Commission website and it says this:
Remember that polling station staff are representatives of the (Acting) Returning Officer and should act impartially at all times. Any badges, slogans, or colours that might bring the impartiality of the polling station staff into question must not be worn.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
NekoFever said:
Someone who I work with is saying that one of the women working in the polling station where he voted this morning is wearing a big blue rosette. Isn't that illegal?

Almost certainly a party agent/teller rather than someone working on the poll. Usually they are allowed to be at the entrance to the polling station but not actually inside it (they seem to cluster in porches).
 

Empty

Member
+1 Lib Dems.

Also, woo! first ever vote made.

- Guy in front of me tried to commit electoral fraud. Stupid fuck thought he could vote both at home and at uni 100% legally, so much was his belief in this that he told the people crossing out names that he was doing exactly that. He was sent out.
- In the newsagents i noticed that the scottish sun didn't go with the Cameron-Obama-Hope front page.
 

Mr. Sam

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Parl said:
I ain't voting Labour, but they've done some great things in this country. There's some screw ups like Iraq, and too much centralisation, and a benefit system which has discouraged employment -

I actually think they've done well with the benefits system, particularly when trying to eliminate the poverty trap.
 

Suairyu

Banned
Vote cast. I was unsure who to pick right up until the last minute. Trying to work out who'd be the lesser of all available evils is a tough job!

My democracy defended, now I can get back to not giving a shit.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
Chinner said:
funny, thats what i thought of tory voters!

They're a band of die-hard working class supporters who don't realise the party has changed almost completely over the last few years?

Are we talking about the same Tory party here?
 

Parl

Member
Mr. Sam said:
I actually think they've done well with the benefits system, particularly when trying to eliminate the poverty trap.
Yes, I agree. That's one of the good things they've done, on top of the minimum wage. But it should certainly be designed in such a way that going to work is siginifcantly financially beneficial.
 
phisheep said:
It's nowhere near that simple either. Labour doesn't have a monopoly over the working class, even though it likes to think so. There's plenty of working-class Tory voters.

I'd have thought it obvious I was talking about voting trends and not making a blanket statement regarding the voting habits of every single member of the working class.
You're not trying to dispute that Labour have strong historical ties with the working class, are you? Because otherwise I'm really unsure as to the point of your reply.
 

Chinner

Banned
iapetus said:
They're a band of die-hard working class supporters who don't realise the party has changed almost completely over the last few years?

Are we talking about the same Tory party here?
Sorry, was referring to this:
that vote on the basis that their parents voted Labour and so did their parents.
 

phisheep

NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
freethought said:
I'd have thought it obvious I was talking about voting trends and not making a blanket statement regarding the voting habits of every single member of the working class.
You're not trying to dispute that Labour have strong historical ties with the working class, are you? Because otherwise I'm really unsure as to the point of your reply.

Not disputing the historical ties at all (my grandmother was a Labour councillor post-war). Just the suggestion that there's only one party that gives the working class any sort of voice or attention.
 

Chinner

Banned
Suairyu said:
Vote cast. I was unsure who to pick right up until the last minute. Trying to work out who'd be the lesser of all available evils is a tough job!

My democracy defended, now I can get back to not giving a shit.
so, who did you vote for then duck?
 

MmmSkyscraper

Unconfirmed Member
Empty said:
- Guy in front of me tried to commit electoral fraud. Stupid fuck thought he could vote both at home and at uni 100% legally, so much was his belief in this that he told the people crossing out names that he was doing exactly that. He was sent out.

:lol , what a twat.
 

Acheteedo

Member
... so, my good friend who has lived (studying) here for 8 years has recently been ordered to leave the country because he messed up his passport photo in a visa extension application (long story but that's what it basically boils down to). He'll be going back to Taiwan where he'll have to do 11 months national service before re-applying to come back (he's got a phd so getting a job in the UK before applying for a visa won't be a major problem). If the tories win, how long would it take to introduce that ****ing immigration cap?
 

Numpt3

Member
Dabookerman said:
Just voted.

Some parties I saw.

Communist Party
Magna Carta Party.


Awesome!
What? :lol

Still stuck in work, gonna go vote on my way home I think. Still undecided on who though :/
 

SFA_AOK

Member
I've heard if Cameron wins, he'll start with a celebratory breakfast of 3 tins of tuna before he gets to work on the UK. Then as a thank you to the right wing press and their readers, Jonathan Ross and Frankie Boyle will be given a special tour of Britain, tied by rope to the back of a horse drawn cart.

Just sayin' is all!
 

Chinner

Banned
Michan said:
Still conflicted. Help, GAF. What are the Tories planning to do to the BBC? Can't find it anywhere.
sell parts of it off, totally neuter ofcom which will allow for fox news style news to infiltrate the country.

think it was in the indy about it.
 

SFA_AOK

Member
To quote a tweet I read this morning:

"how comforting to think that if the Tories come to power, they turn up on day 1 owing James Murdoch a big favour to call in at any point"
 

Empty

Member
Michan said:
Still conflicted. Help, GAF. What are the Tories planning to do to the BBC? Can't find it anywhere.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/m...nstrain-bbc-to-core-broadcasting-1789550.html

The danger of a party freezing the license fee and appointing a new regulatory board is that you start to compromise it's independence, and force the BBC to suck up to the government more to survive, as well as giving more power over the BBC to a tory government that isn't massively supportive of them, has aired negative sentiments about them before and is backed by people like James Murdoch who wish to see the corporation destroyed.
 
Acheteedo said:
... so, my good friend who has lived (studying) here for 8 years has recently been ordered to leave the country because he messed up his passport photo in a visa extension application (long story but that's what it basically boils down to). He'll be going back to Taiwan where he'll have to do 11 months national service before re-applying to come back (he's got a phd so getting a job in the UK before applying for a visa won't be a major problem). If the tories win, how long would it take to introduce that ****ing immigration cap?

lol, with my understanding of things, it'll probably get panned. They want 10,000 rather than 100,000. I don't think they/people understand how much of a huge task that will be

IMO PHd students shouldn't ever be kicked out of a country unless of crime.
 

SmokyDave

Member
Dabookerman said:
Hackney. They had the Hammer and Sickle and all. I loled and people looked at me funny.
That's awesome. You should have voted for them comrade. We don't have any wacky independents here in Notts.
 

Oxx

Member
Just about to run off and vote.

I think the Tories might be able to win back the seat, but there's still a chance we'll stay independent.
 
SmokyDave said:
That's awesome. You should have voted for them comrade. We don't have any wacky independents here in Notts.

We had basically, the main 3 + Christian Party, Green Party, Monster looney tunes party, Magna Carta, Communist party. I think that's it.

No BNP or UKiP. Not surprised at lack of BNP. Everyone in Hackney is pretty much an immigrant or born from an immigrant :lol
 

LukeT

Neo Member
Just been to vote for the first time in a general election. Hassle free, not busy at all only two old woman in front of me.

Looking at the ballot paper had all the candidates with their addresses underneath. All are local apart from the Tory candidate who lives in fucking KENT!!! Over 300 miles away!

Not sure if its like this in the rest of the North East constituencies but how do the Conservatives expect to get votes if the candidate isn't local?
 

Salazar

Member
GAF, I am grievously disappoint.

I saw the Daily Mirror front page, and I mistakenly read Tony Parsons' sack of false-consciousness chip on shoulder bullshit. I would rather watch every Linkin Park AMV ever created than reread that awful, offensive dribble.
 
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