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[Subliminal]

If Nick Clegg is pushing for AV I will hunt him down and crush his bollocks under my shoes

 

[Gary Whitta]

I think Clegg and co are just too busy watching the Inception trailer to even be able to come to an agreement. :lol

I know believe this to be the truth, because it's awesome.

 

[killer_clank]

If Nick Clegg is pushing for AV I will hunt him down and crush his bollocks under my shoes

That's what William Hague is saying they want.

 

[gofreak]

Yup, true colors emerging. There's got to be a TON of frustration on the Tory side - and yes I include Sky News in that.

They - and by 'they' I mean parts of the media, both individuals with organisations, and some whole organisations themselves - have been building a narrative right over the weekend that they I guess naively hope would push momentum in a particular direction.

Brown, and now Clegg with that statement above, have completely put the cat amongst the pigeons and completely upturned that bandwagon.

They must be positively fuming, and indeed clearly are by some of these clips. Boulton looked literally red-faced with frustration.

 

[Chinner]

Wait, the Lib Dems want AV?

Hague painting the Lib Dems as only wanting AV and gon't give a shit about education, defence, public services etc

very dodgy, and i suspect hague is twisting it to make it seem like tories as fitting the lib dems

 

[Subliminal]

That's what William Hague is saying they want.

Its bullshit, it HAS to be. He wants PR!!

 

[Wes]

"According to Sky, Labour are now willing to offer AV without a referendum."

 

[PJV3]

Even if the tories get their coalition the seeds of Camerons destruction have been sown.
There is a lot of anger in tory circles about Camerons little group of advisors and not consulting the wider party.Fun times ahead.

 

[Ushojax]

Ah, this is all great stuff. The Adam Boulton/Nick Robinson meltdowns, Brown planning to step down, formal Lib/Lab talks, and a desperate Tory party playing their last card. Sign me up for a coalition with Miliband as PM, Clegg as Foreign Secretary, and Vince Cable as Chancellor. Fingers crossed!

 

[killer_clank]

"According to Sky, Labour are now willing to offer AV without a referendum."

HOLY SHIT, THIS IS INSANE :lol :lol

 

[dr_octagon]

Conservatives are going to offer a human sacrifice to appease the Kingmaker.

 

[MarshMellow96]

Hague is a first class prick.

 

[Dark Machine]

I know this isn't 4chan. But...my face after today:

 

[Veidt]

"According to Sky, Labour are now willing to offer AV without a referendum."

this IS E3.

goddam.
:lol

 

[Varion]

Hague's bound to be twisting. I imagine he wants PR, but has said AV would be the bare minimum for a deal, and that's what they're going for.

Considering we were expecting no offer of any voting reform at all from the Conservatives, this seems like progress to me, and Cameron's going to get hell for it.

Also, looks like those who are against it will campaign as such.

 

[Chinner]

Come on Clegg, we need better than AV.

 

[killer_clank]

It isn't even fair to change the voting system without a referendum. goddam. :lol :lol

 

[Empty]

today was really boring, then BANG shit just got real. amazing scenes.

 

[Veidt]

"According to Sky, Labour are now willing to offer AV without a referendum."

BREAKING NEWS:"Conservatives are willing to let Clegg force buttsecks on Cameron in exchange for a coalition"

 

[Sage00]

Who would've thought the Daily Mail were right? This is a bidding war. :lol

 

[Jex]

"According to Sky, Labour are now willing to offer AV without a referendum."

:lol What a day!

 

[Raydeen]

I know this isn't 4chan. But...my face after today:

That was my face when Spurs failed to get their 3rd place in the premiership.

I wonder at which point we'll get them so desperate each party will be offering AV, X amount of cabinet positions, plus 10 hookers in a bed for Nick Clegg. "Wait, Mr Osbourne is offering, 12 hookers, plus that Edward bloke from Twilight"

 

[Mecha_Infantry]

Wtf is AV?

 

[Wes]

So unless the Conservatives go through with a minority government (with no Lab/LD coalition appearing) we are going to at least be getting a referendum on AV.

 

[Chinner]

BREAKING NEWS:"Conservatives are willing to let Clegg force buttsecks on Cameron in exchange for a coalition"

BREAKING NEWS:"Cameron to get Clegg's face surgically crafted on to his own face to ease Lib Dem voters into a Tory government"

 

[killer_clank]

BBC saying the lib dems would want a deal with Labour to last a full term Is that even possible?

 

[syllogism]

Asked if the Tories would support a referendum on AV if it was proposed by Labour, Hague said Labour was proposing introducing AV without a referendum.

Hague said, under the Tory plans, Tories would be free to campaign against AV in a referendum.

Heh

 

[Jex]

Wtf is AV?

Some made up Labour system.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/interactive/2010/may/10/proportional-representation-alternative-vote-plus

 

[dr_octagon]

Wtf is AV?

http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/article.php?id=55

 

[Wes]

Wtf is AV?

You vote with preferences.

So like first choice, second choice, third choice... to some n number that is decided.

If no one has over 50% of the vote after the first choice tallying the second choices get included too and so on until someone gets over 50%.

 

[Sage00]

Labour backbencher on BBC saying he doesn't support AV and doesn't think the party will either. Idiot.

Wtf is AV?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

Edit: Gang of 4 replies there.

 

[gofreak]

We'll see how final that offer on vote reform was from the Tories.

I still think this is a ploy on the LD's part to simply squeeze more out of the Tories. And it seems to be working.

 

[travisbickle]

Full thing in better quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gkHwU4DRA8

Malcolm Tucker?

 

[Xavien]

so we have AV without refurendum

Any more to from Tories, any more any more?

Jesus this is like a bidding war on ebay.

 

[Chinner]

Update: Tories offering happy meal along with AV referendum.

 

[killer_clank]

Update: Tories offering happy meal along with AV referendum.

Does it still come with the toy?

 

[Wes]

Update: Tories offering happy meal along with AV referendum.

Update: Labour willing to change immigration laws to allow the import Double Down Sandwiches.

 

[Xavien]

Does it still come with the toy?

comes with a David Cameron bobblehead toy.

 

[killer_clank]

Update: Labour willing to change immigration laws to allow the import Double Down Sandwiches.

/signs deal

 

[Chinner]

Does it still come with the toy?

Currently being negotiated between Clegg and Cameron.

 

[PJV3]

Clegg will have Cameron joining the Euro at this rate.

 

[Dark Machine]

Update: Clegg reveals new 'negotiation' look:

 

[Gary Whitta]

The swings in this have just been astounding. In 48 hours Cameron has gone from basically Prime Minister-elect to all washed up with the Tories facing permanent electoral annihilation :lol

 

[Raydeen]

At this rate it would have been easier to vote Dalek.

 

[Gary Whitta]

At this rate it would have been easier to vote Dalek.

Cameron would form a coalition with the Daleks at this point if he thought it would put him in Number 10.

 

[Veidt]

Update: Clegg reveals new 'negotiation' look:

:lol

The swings in this have just been astounding. In 48 hours Cameron has gone from basically Prime Minister-elect to all washed up with the Tories facing permanent electoral annihilation :lol

Amazing day.

 

[killer_clank]

At this rate it would have been easier to vote Dalek.

At least we didn't vote Saxon. That would've sucked.

 

[defel]

In all other Coalition governments do Party Whips still play a large part? We need to get to a stage where MPs vote in line with their constituents rather than being told how to vote in accordance with the party line.

edit: great Quote from Stephen Frys blog (sorry if already posted)

One of the most puzzling features of the current unstoppable wave of political punditry that is flooding all channels and outlets at the moment (including this one of course) is the peculiar propensity of commentators to feel qualified to extrapolate from the election results the Manifest Will of Britain. “The people have voted for change”, “The people have told Gordon Brown that he has got to go” , “The people are saying that they don’t really trust any one party”, “The people have said that they want Parliament reformed, the tea room in the House of Commons redecorated, new carpeting in the women’s lavatory of the House of Lords and a vegetarian option in the canteen.” What fevered branch of electoral hermeneutics allows any such interpretations on the basis of the summing of millions of individual’s single votes I cannot imagine. It is possible that people do want real change, but a single cross next to a single name is no way to deduce it.

 

[Chinner]

they're talking tonight (lib lab)

 

[killer_clank]

they're talking tonight (lib lab)

Wow.