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UK PoliGAF: General election thread of LibCon Coalitionage

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Chinner

Banned
Press release from Lib Dems:
Over the past four days we have been working flat-out to deliver an agreement that can provide stable government that can last. The talks with the Conservatives have been very constructive and I am grateful to David Cameron and his team for the effort they have put in. But so far we have been unable to agree a comprehensive partnership agreement for a full parliament.

We need a government that lasts, which is why we believe, in the light of the state of talks with the Conservative party, the only responsible thing to do is to open discussions with the Labour party to secure a stable partnership agreement. We will of course continue our discussions with the Conservative party to see if we can find a way to a full agreement.

Gordon Brown has taken a difficult personal decision in the national interest. And I think without prejudice to the talks that will now happen between Labour and the Liberal Democrats, Gordon Brown's decision is an important element which could help ensure a smooth transition to the stable government that everyone deserves.
 

Xavien

Member
GarthVaderUK said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbOhq1q07Y

"Don't tell me what I think!"

:lol :lol :lol

Campbell is having a hell of a time watching Boulton self-destruct.

Chinner said:
Press release from Lib Dems:

I knew it would happen, its happened exactly how i said it would.

defel1111 said:
If Brown resigns doesn't that mean that the Queen can officially offer the Tories the chance to form a minority govt?

Nope because the Queen is supposed to be neutral, its whoever can form a majority government can go to the Queen first before Minority governments are considered. Remember nobody won, so its whoever can cobble together a majority first. If talks with Lib-Lab fall through and talks with Con-Lib fall through then the Tories can lead as a Minority government.
 
GarthVaderUK said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUbOhq1q07Y

"Don't tell me what I think!"

:lol :lol :lol
Yup, true colors emerging. There's got to be a TON of frustration on the Tory side - and yes I include Sky News in that.

I know it's serious business, future of the country and all that, but I have to say this is all bloody brilliant theater. Most interesting UK political story since... what, Thatcher's night of the long knives? Just fascinating to watch, so much drama and intrigue. If you wrote this as fiction nobody would believe it.
 

Shanadeus

Banned
Gary Whitta said:
Yup, true colors emerging. There's got to be a TON of frustration on the Tory side - and yes I include Sky News in that.

Although it's serious business, future of the country and all that, but I have to say this is all bloody brilliant theater. Most interesting UK political story since... what, Thatcher's night of the long knives? Just fascinating to watch, so much drama and intrigue. If you wrote this as fiction nobody would believe it.
Next theme for the gaf writing contest?
This would be a killer novel.
 

DECK'ARD

The Amiga Brotherhood
http://www.conservativehome.com is in full swing!

It's quite clear that the LyingLibbies have 'done the dirty' and have been conducting dual 'negotiations'. This has the fingerprints of the 'Scottish Libbie mafia' all over it. What offends me is that the Conservatives let the Libbies/lyinglabour get away with them calling themselves 'progressive' and that conservatives are 'somewhat evil'. Cameron should walk away from the LibbieLiars NOW. If the Libbies want to align themselves with a bunch of liars- let them.

A Lib/Lab coalition would almost certainly not bring back fox and stag hunting.

As Andrew Hart, the outstanding new Tory MP, said today, the reintroduction of hunting is the priority for any new government.

He understands rural Britain. Why don't these faceless Lib Dem negotiators get it?

:lol
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Chinner said:
Press release from Lib Dems:
I'm loving this.
Finally,Brown resigns. He wasn't the PM we wanted. But he was the PM we needed. So he'll resign. Because he can take it. Because he's not our PM. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...
 

Jex

Member
Gary Whitta said:
Yup, true colors emerging. There's got to be a TON of frustration on the Tory side - and yes I include Sky News in that.

I know it's serious business, future of the country and all that, but I have to say this is all bloody brilliant theater. Most interesting UK political story since... what, Thatcher's night of the long knives? Just fascinating to watch, so much drama and intrigue. If you wrote this as fiction nobody would believe it.

The News Coverage is almost as interesting as the election.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Conservative blogger Tory Bear tweets:" Never thought I would be so angry at Gordon's resigning. Spent three years waiting for this and when he goes I scream nooooo stay"

:lol
 
Veidt said:
Finally, Brown resigns. He wasn't the PM we wanted. But he was the PM we needed. So he'll resign. Because he can take it. Because he's not our PM. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...

:lol
 

Raydeen

Member
I actually hope Fox hunting is brought back.....not because I agree with it, but because how outraged the urban elite will be, throwing their Soya Lattes into the ground in anger.
 

Varion

Member
So the Conservatives are actually offering an AV referendum?

Well that's a step forward. I assume it's standard AV and not AV+ though.
 

Chinner

Banned
RedShift said:
So what do you think the Sun will go with? A clever pun or just CLEGG BETRAYS BRITAIN
Daily Mails will be like:
Clegg and NON BRITISH Wife rein-act Diana's car crash but on a national scale; it'll be like 7/7 all over again but with dirty immigrants.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
"The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto."
 

Empty

Member
Chinner said:
Press release from Lib Dems:

the 'full term' bit is the most interesting of that. i guess the lib dem's wanted protection against the tories going for a majority in a few months, and the tories weren't willing to offer it. maybe todays events will change that.

edit: or not.
 

Xavien

Member
Veidt said:
"The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto."

I wonder if Labour will push for AV+ to try and one-up the Tories.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Xavien said:
I wonder if Labour will push for AV+ to try and one-up the Tories.
I wouldn't rule this out.
Labour is in a position where they'll do anything to stay in the game. Brown's resignation is merely a first step.
 
Veidt said:
"The Conservatives are making a "final offer" to the Lib Dems, promising a referendum on bringing in a different voting system - known as AV - shadow chancellor George Osborne says. Labour had a referendum on AV in the their election manifesto."

This is like E3 times a million. :lol
 

D4Danger

Unconfirmed Member
Gary Whitta said:
Reuters reporting Tories are now offering a referendum on electoral reform.

whatatwist.jpg

It's interesting that this was made public so quickly. They really want the public back on their side.
 

gerg

Member
Can someone explain to me why Brown's proposed resignation is such a big deal? Is it because it offers the possibility of a Lib/Labour coalition?
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Gary Whitta said:
I don't know how Inception can possibly top this.
Nolan will come back home, and be elected PM. Because he's able to incept the dreams of election candidates.
That's how he's planning to top the election. Election rhymes with Inception, coincidence? I think not.

I think Clegg and co are just too busy watching the Inception trailer to even be able to come to an agreement. :lol
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Wait, the Lib Dems want AV?

Hague painting the Lib Dems as only wanting AV and gon't give a shit about education, defence, public services etc
 

dr_octagon

Banned
gerg said:
Can someone explain to me why Brown's proposed resignation is such a big deal? Is it because it offers the possibility of a Lib/Labour coalition?
He was a roadblock and he said 'I'll go soon, in the interests of the party'. Also, the chance to slay the dragon that is the Tory party. This helps negotiations and Lib Lab is a real possibility. Nick Clegg wasn't happy with Gordon and everyone knew it, he's taken a bullet and helped Labour in the process.
 

Varion

Member
Xavien said:
I wonder if Labour will push for AV+ to try and one-up the Tories.

Unless Labour offer full PR, they're out. It's not worth risking the rainbow coalition just for the relatively small difference between AV and AV+.

Also Hague making a statement, says they'll go with AV referendum.

.......I think I'd take it.
 

Sage00

Once And Future Member
Wes said:
Is AV even that much better than FPTP?
It's not any more proportional, but it at least makes sure the "best option for most people" in a constituency is elected, rather than simply the one with the most votes. (ie if it's Tory #1, Lib #2, Lab #3, the Labour votes would transfer over to those voters' second choice, ensuring their votes aren't wasted and getting rid of tactical voting).
 
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